Nigel Farage: West provoked Ukraine war

[Ringo]

Ukrainian Nazi Yaroslav Gunko, who is being charged in absentia in Russia (who was applauded by the Canadian parliament last year) and who has not been extradited by Canada, and his accomplices are involved in the murder of at least 500 citizens of the USSR, including Jews and Poles. In an interview with RIA Novosti, Alexander Bastrykin, chairman of Russia's Investigative Committee, said.

"Hunka and other representatives of "Galicia" in 1944, carrying out criminal orders of superior commanders, being in the settlement of Guta Penyatskaya," - said the head of the agency.

Bastrykin emphasized that the criminals shot people, burned them in residential houses and in the church.

Before that, Russian Prosecutor General Igor Krasnov said that the reluctance of the Canadian authorities to extradite to Russia a Nazi accused of genocide of civilians, Gunko, shows that Ottawa at the highest level whitewashes Nazi atrocities.

Russia in February submitted a request to Canada for Gunko's extradition but was denied. The Canadian side cited the absence of an extradition treaty between the two states.

In March, it became known that the regional council of Ukraine's Ternopil Region awarded Yaroslav (Hunku) Gunko, a Ukrainian nationalist and former soldier of the SS division "Galicia", with a badge of honor "For Merit to Ternopil Region".

 

[Litwin]

Ukrainian Nazi Yaroslav Gunko, who is being charged in absentia in Russia (who was applauded by the Canadian parliament last year) and who has not been extradited by Canada, and his accomplices are involved in the murder of at least 500 citizens of the USSR, including Jews and Poles. In an interview with RIA Novosti, Alexander Bastrykin, chairman of Russia's Investigative Committee, said.

"Hunka and other representatives of "Galicia" in 1944, carrying out criminal orders of superior commanders, being in the settlement of Guta Penyatskaya," - said the head of the agency.

Bastrykin emphasized that the criminals shot people, burned them in residential houses and in the church.

Before that, Russian Prosecutor General Igor Krasnov said that the reluctance of the Canadian authorities to extradite to Russia a Nazi accused of genocide of civilians, Gunko, shows that Ottawa at the highest level whitewashes Nazi atrocities.

Russia in February submitted a request to Canada for Gunko's extradition but was denied. The Canadian side cited the absence of an extradition treaty between the two states.

In March, it became known that the regional council of Ukraine's Ternopil Region awarded Yaroslav (Hunku) Gunko, a Ukrainian nationalist and former soldier of the SS division "Galicia", with a badge of honor "For Merit to Ternopil Region".

 

[Litwin]

I see he hasn't gotten any smarter. Another right wing puppet of authoritarians.

yawn

 

[skye]

Nigel Farage: West provoked Ukraine war​

Long overdue for someone over there to voice what has been obvious from the beginning.

That's right!

Farage is just telling it like it is!

 

[Dissident]

Yesterday, Mr Farage published an answer to his critics, including Mr Litwin from USMB and British PM Rishi Sunak – you can see posts of Mr Litwin above and reaction of Mr Rishi Sunak below.

Responding to the interview, Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the comment was "completely wrong and only plays into Putin's hands," accusing Mr Farage of “appeasement” that was “dangerous for Britain’s security”.

BBC

The answer of Mr Farage is called The West’s errors in Ukraine have been catastrophic. I won’t apologise for telling the truth

 

[Rigby5]

Only Trump supporters will be making excuses for Putin's tyranny

Wrong.
Gorbachev gave the Ukraine independence based on treaty promises, such as Russian use of Sevastopol forever, the Ukraine never joining an alliance hostile to Russia, no harm to ethnic Russian natives, etc.
So the ethnic Polish generals in Kyiv deliberately started this war, after being bribed by Hunter Biden.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Gorbachev gave the Ukraine independence based on treaty promises, such as Russian use of Sevastopol forever, the Ukraine never joining an alliance hostile to Russia, no harm to ethnic Russian natives, etc.
So the ethnic Polish generals in Kyiv deliberately started this war, after being bribed by Hunter Biden.

WRONG

There was never any such treaty. Putin started this war

Your claims are delusional fiction

 

[zaangalewa]

Nigel Farage: West provoked Ukraine war​

Nigel Farage is wrong. Indeed Nigel Farage provokes "the West". He (together with Donald Trump and others) is responsible for the Brexit. The Brexit weakens Great Britain including the rest of Europe. Putin also weakens Europe when he started his war on Europe in the Ukraine. Who weakens Europe weakens the West.

 

[zaangalewa]

luiza

Slave of Putin: Shut up, stupid weirdo!

 

[Litwin]

​

Today, an interview with British politician Nigel Farage has been published on the BBC website.
In 2019, Nigel Farage was listed by the Financial Times among Fifty people who shaped the decade.

You can find the full text of this material under the spoiler below.

But I would like to remind you that there already are the following threads on the forum:

10 years of Ukrainian coup d’état. Did the West provoke it?
Does the West provoke escalation of the Ukrainian crisis?
Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

Spoiler

West provoked Ukraine war, Nigel Farage says

By Becky Morton,
Political reporter

Nigel Farage has said the West "provoked" Russia's invasion of Ukraine by expanding the European Union and Nato military alliance eastwards.
The Reform UK leader told the BBC that "of course" the war was President Vladimir Putin's fault.
But he added that the expansion of the EU and Nato gave him a "reason" to tell the Russian people "they're coming for us again".
In an interview with the BBC's Nick Robinson, Mr Farage was challenged over his judgement and past statements, including when he named Russian President Vladimir Putin as the world leader he most admired in 2014.
"I said I disliked him as a person, but admired him as a political operator because he's managed to take control of running Russia," Mr Farage said.
He was then pressed over a social media post in February 2022, when he claimed the Russian invasion of Ukraine was "a consequence of EU and Nato expansion".
Mr Farage said he had been arguing since the 1990s that "the ever eastward expansion" of the Nato military alliance and the EU was giving President Putin "a reason to [give to] his Russian people to say they're coming for us again and to go to war".
He added: "We provoked this war. Of course, it's [President Putin's] fault."
Responding to the interview, Conservative Home Secretary James Cleverly said Mr Farage was “echoing Putin’s vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine".
Labour defence spokesman John Healey said Mr Farage's comments made him "unfit for any political office in our country, let alone leading a serious party in Parliament."
Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. It followed the occupation of the Crimea and Donbas regions in 2014.
Ukraine is not a member of the EU or Nato, which is made up of 32 countries across Europe and North America.
However, the country applied to join both blocs following the Russian invasion.
Nato was formed in 1949 by 12 countries, including the US, UK, Canada and France.
After the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991, many Eastern European countries joined including Hungary, Poland and Estonia.
The EU has also expanded since the 1990s, with a number of eastern European countries joining in 2004.
In the interview, Mr Farage also accused the Conservatives of failing to deliver on Brexit.
As the leader of UKIP, he was a key figure in the campaign to leave the EU.
While the issue dominated the 2019 general election, with Boris Johnson campaigning on the slogan "Get Brexit Done", it has not featured prominently in the current campaign.
Asked if he stood by his previous claim that Brexit had failed, Mr Farage said: "No, it's not a failure but we failed to deliver.
"It can't be a failure. We've left the European Union. We're now self-governing."
But he added: "Brexit has failed those who voted for it, believing that immigration numbers would be reduced.”
Net migration - the difference between the number of people coming to live in the UK and those leaving - has risen sharply since 2021, when the UK left the EU.
This has been driven by non-EU nationals coming to the UK.
Net migration reached record levels in 2022 before reducing slightly the following year.
Reform UK has said it backs a freeze on non-essential immigration to relieve pressure on housing and public services, increase wages and "protect our culture identity and values".
Mr Farage also criticised the Conservatives for "binning" their promise to scrap 4,000 EU laws.
Pressed over whether he was just blaming others, Mr Farage said: "If you put me in charge, it would be very, very different. Of course they didn't do that.
"The Conservative Party never believed in Brexit... They picked it up as a political opportunity, and they failed to deliver."
Mr Farage also faced questions over his stance on climate change and whether he believed it is not really a "crisis".
"I do think ever since the late 1980s that perhaps there's been a bit of hype around this, and I think that perhaps is wrong," he said.
"All we ever talk about is fear rather than solutions."
He added: "We spend too much time hyperventilating about the problem rather than thinking practically and logically what we can do.”
Mr Farage branded the Labour and Tory net zero policies "nonsense", claiming £30bn a year could be saved by dropping their climate pledges.
He was also challenged over Reform’s vetting procedures after the party dropped a number of potential parliamentary candidates over inappropriate or offensive comments.
The party has blamed a company it hired to conduct background checks on would-be candidates, claiming it failed to carry out vetting before the election was called.
Asked why some people with extreme views appeared to rally to his cause, Mr Farage said: “They’re not there because of me.”
Despite co-founding the party and being its honorary president, he insisted: “I have had no involvement with the day-to-day running of the party for over three years.
“These candidates were recruited before I said I was going to play an active role in the party.”
Mr Farage took over as Reform leader from Richard Tice only in the second full week of the election campaign.
At the same time he announced he would run as a candidate himself in Clacton after previously saying he would not stand in July's election.
The BBC is interviewing major party leaders in the run-up to the election in The Panorama Interviews with Nick Robinson. You can watch the interview with Nigel Farage at 19:00 on BBC One or BBC iPlayer.
You can find a full list of candidates standing in the Clacton constituency here.

And don't forget the thread that started all this: The one that contains Trump's words on the question:

Trump points to ‘cause’ of Ukraine conflict

The former US leader has blamed the fighting on President Joe Biden’s “crazy” and “provocative” rhetoric about Kiev joining NATO

www.rt.com

Trump's fans don't appear to be all that happy about what he said, so far.

Noland iirc....~S~

He is absolutely right!

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.
Gorbachev gave the Ukraine independence based on treaty promises, such as Russian use of Sevastopol forever, the Ukraine never joining an alliance hostile to Russia, no harm to ethnic Russian natives, etc.
So the ethnic Polish generals in Kyiv deliberately started this war, after being bribed by Hunter Biden.

Wrong

There never was any such treaty and independance was TAKEN from gorbachev it was not GIVEN. He had no choice

 

[zaangalewa]

Wrong

There never was any such treaty and independance was TAKEN from gorbachev it was not GIVEN. He had no choice

Exactly. Gorbachev lost his power as a leader of the Soviet Union because Russia herself - also together with the Ukraine and others - dissolved the Soviet Union. Jelzin overtook the power in Russia. And Putin overtook later by transporting just simple the drunkard Jelzin out of the Kreml - what had been one of the most absurd (and most successful!) state coups. I could call it "the Vodka coup". What is Russia today? The private property of Vladimir Putin?

 

[Deadstick]

Exactly. Gorbachev lost his power as a leader of the Soviet Union because Russia herself - also together with the Ukraine and others - dissolved the Soviet Union. Jelzin overtook the power in Russia. And Putin overtook later by transporting just simple the drunkard Jelzin out of the Kreml - what had been one of the most absurd (and most successful!) state coups. I could call it "the Vodka coup". What is Russia today? The private property of Vladimir Putin?

Russia today is a proud independent democratic Nation rescued from the Alcohol drenched Yeltsin years and Oligarchs, and Western carpetbaggers corrupt chancers who looted Russia scum like Bill Browder that is why they hate Putin the way they never hated Gorbachev and that piss artist Yeltsin, they were quite happy with those two you Nazi.

 

[Deadstick]

Nigel Farage is wrong. Indeed Nigel Farage provokes "the West". He (together with Donald Trump and others) is responsible for the Brexit. The Brexit weakens Great Britain including the rest of Europe. Putin also weakens Europe when he started his war on Europe in the Ukraine. Who weakens Europe weakens the West.

Europe is a US colony you fool and it has just about destroyed the German economy, and WTF does Brexit have to do with the subject?

 

[Deadstick]

Wrong.
Gorbachev gave the Ukraine independence based on treaty promises, such as Russian use of Sevastopol forever, the Ukraine never joining an alliance hostile to Russia, no harm to ethnic Russian natives, etc.
So the ethnic Polish generals in Kyiv deliberately started this war, after being bribed by Hunter Biden.

It was the same with Finland after the war the Soviets allowed it to remain as a independent State as long as they were neutral and didn't become an enemy of Russia, that worked out great didn't it

 

[Deadstick]

The ultra-corrupt Obama administration, in cahoots with Putin, orchestrated the bloody 2014 coup against the democratically elected government in Ukraine. That's how the Dems funded Hunter Biden's million dollar per nanosecond cocaine and hooker addiction.

And as part of the corrupt deal, they handed Crimea to Putin.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Deadstick]

When will you stop clogging up the forum with your ever increasing and deranged posts? you need help, maybe you already have help but it's not working.

 

[zaangalewa]

Russia today is a proud independent democratic Nation

With a very effective voting system. One vote counts all other's are nothing.

rescued from the Alcohol drenched Yeltsin years

It was the right of the Russians to vote for a drunkard.

and Oligarchs, and Western carpetbaggers corrupt chancers who looted Russia scum like Bill Browder that is why they hate Putin the way they never hated Gorbachev and that piss artist Yeltsin, they were quite happy with those two you Nazi.

Oh well - certainly life is a jungle. How's your Red Russian Natzi army now, Jungle-Russian? Ready to fight under the law of the djungle?

 

[zaangalewa]

Europe is a US colony you fool

If so then this is our decision and not the decision of Put9in and his counterpart Donald Trump.

and it has just about destroyed the German economy,

Which German economy? Do we have something like this?

and WTF does Brexit have to do with the subject?

The KGB is anything else than stupid. I'm sure they have a lot of people in the western world under their control.

 

[Deadstick]

If so then this is our decision and not the decision of Put9in and his counterpart Donald Trump.



Which German economy? Do we have something like this?



The KGB is anything else than stupid. I'm sure they have a lot of people in the western world under their control.

There is no KGB arsehole stop watching Hollywood shit.