Nigel Farage: West provoked Ukraine war

[Ringo]

Russia has officially filed pre-trial claims against Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Switzerland, formed on the basis of a number of conventions on terrorism in connection with the investigation of terrorist attacks on the “Nord Streams”,RIA “Novosti” quotes Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova as saying.

She added that Russia firmly intends to seek to identify and bring to justice all the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks on the Nord Streams, and the West's attempts to “sweep the case under the rug” will not pass.
Earlier, the speaker of the State Duma, Vyacheslav Volodin, said that Washington and Biden personally were behind the undermining of Nord Stream.

 

[Deadstick]

Russia has officially filed pre-trial claims against Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Switzerland, formed on the basis of a number of conventions on terrorism in connection with the investigation of terrorist attacks on the “Nord Streams”,RIA “Novosti” quotes Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova as saying.

She added that Russia firmly intends to seek to identify and bring to justice all the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks on the Nord Streams, and the West's attempts to “sweep the case under the rug” will not pass.
Earlier, the speaker of the State Duma, Vyacheslav Volodin, said that Washington and Biden personally were behind the undermining of Nord Stream.

Good, send out international arrest warrants for those scumbags.

 

[zaangalewa]

Russia has officially filed pre-trial claims against Germany, Denmark, Sweden and Switzerland ...

Will be interesting to see the Swiss navy conquering Russia.

 

[zaangalewa]

Good, send out international arrest warrants for those scumbags.

If I would be a Brit then I would know what such an attack of Russia means. GB and the USA made a titanic mistake when they supported Russia in World War 1+2 instead to minimize the influence of Russia in the Baltic Sea and in the Black Sea. Germany made by the way no mistake to trust in Russia and to try to live in peace with Russia. Without to trust peace is an impossible thing. But who is now able to trust in Russia any longer - except the corrupt political party ANC in South Africa? Poor Nelson Mandela. By the way: Where really ends the Russian war front under Putins KGB?

 

[Deadstick]

Will be interesting to see the Swiss navy conquering Russia.

So i take it you agree with blowing up your own pipeline for your American masters? that act helped trash your own economy and bankrupt thousands of German businesses.

 

[Deadstick]

If I would be a Brit then I would know what such an attack of Russia means. GB and the USA made a titanic mistake when they supported Russia in World War 1+2 instead to minimize the influence of Russia in the Baltic Sea and in the Black Sea.

If they had not backed the Soviet Union in WW2 the Gestapo would have an HQ in every European Capital right now, you would probably be in charge of one.

 

[gipper]

If I would be a Brit then I would know what such an attack of Russia means. GB and the USA made a titanic mistake when they supported Russia in World War 1+2 instead to minimize the influence of Russia in the Baltic Sea and in the Black Sea.

 

[frigidweirdo]

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Today, an interview with British politician Nigel Farage has been published on the BBC website.
In 2019, Nigel Farage was listed by the Financial Times among Fifty people who shaped the decade.

You can find the full text of this material under the spoiler below.

But I would like to remind you that there already are the following threads on the forum:

10 years of Ukrainian coup d’état. Did the West provoke it?
Does the West provoke escalation of the Ukrainian crisis?
Has the Russian Special Military Operation in Ukraine been provoked?

Spoiler

West provoked Ukraine war, Nigel Farage says

By Becky Morton,
Political reporter

Nigel Farage has said the West "provoked" Russia's invasion of Ukraine by expanding the European Union and Nato military alliance eastwards.
The Reform UK leader told the BBC that "of course" the war was President Vladimir Putin's fault.
But he added that the expansion of the EU and Nato gave him a "reason" to tell the Russian people "they're coming for us again".
In an interview with the BBC's Nick Robinson, Mr Farage was challenged over his judgement and past statements, including when he named Russian President Vladimir Putin as the world leader he most admired in 2014.
"I said I disliked him as a person, but admired him as a political operator because he's managed to take control of running Russia," Mr Farage said.
He was then pressed over a social media post in February 2022, when he claimed the Russian invasion of Ukraine was "a consequence of EU and Nato expansion".
Mr Farage said he had been arguing since the 1990s that "the ever eastward expansion" of the Nato military alliance and the EU was giving President Putin "a reason to [give to] his Russian people to say they're coming for us again and to go to war".
He added: "We provoked this war. Of course, it's [President Putin's] fault."
Responding to the interview, Conservative Home Secretary James Cleverly said Mr Farage was “echoing Putin’s vile justification for the brutal invasion of Ukraine".
Labour defence spokesman John Healey said Mr Farage's comments made him "unfit for any political office in our country, let alone leading a serious party in Parliament."
Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. It followed the occupation of the Crimea and Donbas regions in 2014.
Ukraine is not a member of the EU or Nato, which is made up of 32 countries across Europe and North America.
However, the country applied to join both blocs following the Russian invasion.
Nato was formed in 1949 by 12 countries, including the US, UK, Canada and France.
After the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991, many Eastern European countries joined including Hungary, Poland and Estonia.
The EU has also expanded since the 1990s, with a number of eastern European countries joining in 2004.
In the interview, Mr Farage also accused the Conservatives of failing to deliver on Brexit.
As the leader of UKIP, he was a key figure in the campaign to leave the EU.
While the issue dominated the 2019 general election, with Boris Johnson campaigning on the slogan "Get Brexit Done", it has not featured prominently in the current campaign.
Asked if he stood by his previous claim that Brexit had failed, Mr Farage said: "No, it's not a failure but we failed to deliver.
"It can't be a failure. We've left the European Union. We're now self-governing."
But he added: "Brexit has failed those who voted for it, believing that immigration numbers would be reduced.”
Net migration - the difference between the number of people coming to live in the UK and those leaving - has risen sharply since 2021, when the UK left the EU.
This has been driven by non-EU nationals coming to the UK.
Net migration reached record levels in 2022 before reducing slightly the following year.
Reform UK has said it backs a freeze on non-essential immigration to relieve pressure on housing and public services, increase wages and "protect our culture identity and values".
Mr Farage also criticised the Conservatives for "binning" their promise to scrap 4,000 EU laws.
Pressed over whether he was just blaming others, Mr Farage said: "If you put me in charge, it would be very, very different. Of course they didn't do that.
"The Conservative Party never believed in Brexit... They picked it up as a political opportunity, and they failed to deliver."
Mr Farage also faced questions over his stance on climate change and whether he believed it is not really a "crisis".
"I do think ever since the late 1980s that perhaps there's been a bit of hype around this, and I think that perhaps is wrong," he said.
"All we ever talk about is fear rather than solutions."
He added: "We spend too much time hyperventilating about the problem rather than thinking practically and logically what we can do.”
Mr Farage branded the Labour and Tory net zero policies "nonsense", claiming £30bn a year could be saved by dropping their climate pledges.
He was also challenged over Reform’s vetting procedures after the party dropped a number of potential parliamentary candidates over inappropriate or offensive comments.
The party has blamed a company it hired to conduct background checks on would-be candidates, claiming it failed to carry out vetting before the election was called.
Asked why some people with extreme views appeared to rally to his cause, Mr Farage said: “They’re not there because of me.”
Despite co-founding the party and being its honorary president, he insisted: “I have had no involvement with the day-to-day running of the party for over three years.
“These candidates were recruited before I said I was going to play an active role in the party.”
Mr Farage took over as Reform leader from Richard Tice only in the second full week of the election campaign.
At the same time he announced he would run as a candidate himself in Clacton after previously saying he would not stand in July's election.
The BBC is interviewing major party leaders in the run-up to the election in The Panorama Interviews with Nick Robinson. You can watch the interview with Nigel Farage at 19:00 on BBC One or BBC iPlayer.
You can find a full list of candidates standing in the Clacton constituency here.

Farage is lazy. He doesn't do his own thing, he's for hire. Someone tells him to say stuff, he says it. He probably knows as much about the war in the Ukraine as Harry Potter does.

 

[zaangalewa]

So i take it you agree with blowing up your own pipeline for your American masters? that act helped trash your own economy and bankrupt thousands of German businesses.

Nord Stream is past. I do not live in any past. When I like to know who did do so then only on reason of curiosity but not on reason of political consequences. Nobody can trust Putin. Currently I guess Russians and/or Ukrainians destroyed the pipelines Nordstream 1+2. For sure who destroyed this pipelines is an enemy of Germany. So what? If the Ukrainians had done so then we'll forgive them. Problem solved. They have other problems now instead to attack Germany. They need our help - they got our help, they get our help and they will get our help - independent from anything what had happened. The past is no problem for us.

 

[Ringo]

Nobody can trust Putin. I guess Russians and/or Ukrainians destroyed the pipelines Nordstream 1+2. For sure who destroyed this pipelines is an enemy of Germany. So what? If the Ukrainains had done so then we forgive them. Problem solved. They have other problems now instead to attack Germany.

There should be some kind of law against idiots writing on the internet.....

 

[zaangalewa]

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Ghadaffi, Osama bin Laden and Saddam Husein became megalomaniac terrorists and mass-murderers.

But who knows what the future will bring. If Selensky will become czar of Russia instead of Putin - anything is possible. Power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I hope Waldemar Selenski - oh sorry: Wolodymyr Selenskyj - will have a long life and will tell one day his grandchildren and grand-grandchildren how it came that the Ukraine became a respected part of the EU and a respected member of the NATO and how "peace" became for the Ukraine more than an empty Russian phrase.

 

[gipper]

Ghadaffi, Osama bin Laden and Saddam Husein became megalomaniac terrorists and mass-murderers.

But who knows what the future will bring. If Selensky will become czar of Russia instead of Putin - anything is possible. Power corrupts - absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I hope Wolodymyr Selenskyj will have a long life and will tell one day his grandchildren and grand-grandchildren how it came that the Ukraine became a respected part of the EU and a respected member of the NATO and how "peace" becem for the Ukraine more than an empty Russian phrase.

Lol. The megalomaniac terrorists were and are the leaders of the US and UK, and their vassal states of Europe do as their told.

THINK!!!!!!!

 

[zaangalewa]

There should be some kind of law against idiots writing on the internet.....

Sure, Russian. But I doubt one day only Putin will write here as it is in Russia.

 

[zaangalewa]

Lol. The megalomaniac terrorists were and are the leaders of the US and UK, and their vassal states of Europe do as their told.

THINK!!!!!!!

You - and with you everyone else in the world - will know when we Germans will start a terror campaign in Russia.

 

[Deadstick]

There should be some kind of law against idiots writing on the internet.....

The guy is mad and fully signed up to the fourth Reich even when it damages his own Country, it's a sort of extreme Stockholm syndrome.

 

[zaangalewa]

If they had not backed the Soviet Union in WW2 the Gestapo would have an HQ in every European Capital right now, you would probably be in charge of one.

We had renamed the Gestapo in KGB who had dissolved the Belarussian Goethe Institut in all European Capitals.