US district Judge rules ban on guns for felon is unconstitutional

[kaz]

I agree. To be clear, I support restrictive voting but since everyone free can vote, why not let them?

Thats a lot better argument than making up what the Constitution says, like you've been doing

 

[okfine]

I'm certainly going to sleep better now

And doing so there are no findings of voter fraud with ex-felons.

 

[kaz]

And doing so there are no findings of voter fraud with ex-felons.

Democrats don't look for voter fraud, so not finding it means nothing. If they looked, they would find it. They're the ones stealing elections

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Democrats don't look for voter fraud, so not finding it means nothing. If they looked, they would find it. They're the ones stealing elections

So stupid

 

[okfine]

Democrats don't look for voter fraud, so not finding it means nothing. If they looked, they would find it. They're the ones stealing elections

So political. My heart bleeds for you.

 

[kaz]

So political. My heart bleeds for you.

Democrats are committing widespread election fraud. You aren't fooling anyone, Scoobie

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Where does the government get the authority to take away constitutional rights forever?

They gave it to themselves.
And I support this situation, it is inherently and exceedingly stupid to allow a violent felon to have a gun.
Especially a repeated violent offender.
As a part of their crime they can and should lose any rights that is likely to lead into another crime.
Another example is a child sex offender. They lose their rights to be in some public places where children are present.

 

[okfine]

Democrats are committing widespread election fraud. You aren't fooling anyone, Scoobie

It's all in your buckin hayed

 

[kaz]

It's all in your buckin hayed

You're voting for a criminal enterprise, the Democrat Party

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're voting for a criminal enterprise, the Democrat Party

He doesn't live in your fantasyland.

 

[okfine]

You're voting for a criminal enterprise, the Democrat Party

Losers lament^^^

 

[kaz]

Losers lament^^^

^^ Thinks sex he/she/it had with a woman with a dick wasn't gay sex, it was ...

 

[Rogue AI]

Dude, I love ya man, but that's stupid. According to you, they can't put you in prison then. That isn't what the Constitution says, you're confused. They must convict you while honoring your Constituional rights. If they do that, they can suspend your constitutional rights.

The issue is TNHarley is claiming there is a time limit. He completely that up, which is why he can't back it up

That is completely inaccurate. The government does have the power to imprison people, hence the separation of powers and creation of the executive branch. The entire concept of our rights to due process, search and seizure, speedy trials, and juries of our peers is premised on the notion of the government's powers to imprison citizens. It is the limitations upon those powers that are enshrined in the Constitution. The permanent revocation rights is not mentioned at all.

During the Whiskey Rebellion the federal government confiscated the arms of the rebels, they did not prohibit them from procuring arms in the future. That was how the Founders governed.

 

[kaz]

That is completely inaccurate. The government does have the power to imprison people, hence the separation of powers and creation of the executive branch. The entire concept of our rights to due process, search and seizure, speedy trials, and juries of our peers is premised on the notion of the government's powers to imprison citizens. It is the limitations upon those powers that are enshrined in the Constitution. The permanent revocation rights is not mentioned at all.

During the Whiskey Rebellion the federal government confiscated the arms of the rebels, they did not prohibit them from procuring arms in the future. That was how the Founders governed.

Putting people in prison clearly violates their Constitutional rights.

The Constitution doesn't say it doesn't, it says you can violate their Constitutional rights upon conviction with their Constitutional rights respected. The difference may be subtle but it's critically important

 

[Rogue AI]

Putting people in prison clearly violates their Constitutional rights.

The Constitution doesn't say it doesn't, it says you can violate their Constitutional rights upon conviction with their Constitutional rights respected. The difference may be subtle but it's critically important

Putting people in prison does not violate their Constitutional rights. There is a suspension of rights for the incarcerated, only so long as they are in the government's custody. The real problem is that 'custody' now extends indefinitely through unconstitutional methods like parole or probation.

 

[kaz]

Putting people in prison does not violate their Constitutional rights. Their is a suspension of rights for the incarcerated, only so long as they are in the government's custody. The real problem is that 'custody' now extends indefinitely through unconstitutional methods like parole or probation.

Funny how the Constitution doesn't mention any of that. Anywhere

 

[Rogue AI]

Funny how the Constitution doesn't mention any of that. Anywhere

Indeed, when the Constitution was ratified people possessed this thing called common sense, long absent in modern American politics. The government imprisoned people for crimes they were convicted of, affording the defendants their whole suite of Constitutional protections. When the sentence was served the incarcerated were returned to society with all of the rights restored.

 

[Chillicothe]

"Democrats ........ They're the ones stealing elections"
"Democrats are committing widespread election fraud."

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All elections?
Or which elections?
Name names.
And explain to the forum how you know.
What are your sources? How have your sources been vetted?

Anyone can make an unsupported claim on the internet while posting anonymously.
But, responsible adults are able to back up their claims. To prove it.

So batter up, poster 'kaz'.
Demonstrate to the forum that your avatar has gravitas and a sense of responsibility.

 

[Flash]

Because of the Bill of Rights the possession of a firearm should never be a crime. The crime that is done with the firearm is the crime.

 

[TNHarley]

Because of the Bill of Rights the possession of a firearm should never be a crime. The crime that is done with the firearm is the crime.

Just more charges. Like hate crimes.
Stupid shit.