Video emerges of Georgia jogger attack; case headed to grand jury

[Lysistrata]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

If you believe this, there is a bridge in Brooklyn that I've put up for sale.

Do you don’t believe the 9-1-1 audio or the video footage?

Video, mostly. I certainly don't believe the gunmen's stories, or the way you are trying so hard to spin your narrative. What's your connection to the gunmen?

No connection. I am not invested in this emotionally. I look at only the actual evidence. That’s what logical people do and that is what the justice system attempts to do. “Social Justice” on the other hand is fueled by emotion, and has an Agenda. Social Justice Terrorists could care less about the facts and evidence, all they care about is using the situation to create racial divide in order to help their Marxist party win elections. This is how they motivate their base.

What is wrong with seeking "social justice"? There is nothing wrong with insisting on "liberty and justice for all" as we declare in the salute to our flag. Your fractured political views and obsession with some "Marxist" nonsense spoon-fed to you by some lame talk-show host have nothing to do with deciding this case on the facts and evidence. You cannot keep introducing as "fact" or "evidence" some story that somebody concocted on the internet, particularly with the existence of the video.

Because only useful idiot lemmings of the leftist variety seek Social Justice.
Non-thinking hive mind drones.

It figures that you fly the traitor flag, as you obviously do not believe in American values. When someone is murdered, we Americans seek to hold the killer accountable.

 

[theHawk]

Here is an unedited video.

Video Shows Fatal Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, Unarmed Black Man in Georgia

The fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old unarmed black man, was caught on video and has prompted a grand jury investigation.

www.tmz.com

This apparently was after burglar suspect 1 had evaded them a few times by running through yards. As you can see, black burglar suspect 1 is running from the person filming. The truck is parked in the street. As he “jogs” up the left side of the road, he then suddenly went way over to the right. Then he runs past the truck and attacks the man (Travis) with the shotgun. At that point it is an altercation between the two men. Travis fires in self defense.

If black burglar suspect 1 was “just jogging”, why did he cut across the road to go around the truck in an attempt to sneak up on the man with the shotgun standing in front of the truck? If he was just jogging then why not keep jogging on the left side of the road? I mean, unless you just did something wrong, why would you be afraid of these guys?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Now, a trial.

QUESTION: Why are they protesting in front of the court house (I heard on the radio) when the two men have been arrested and charged with murder?

Because it is Georgia and they need a good lynching to calm the public down...

Ya think I'm joking don't cha!

 

[jc456]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

If you believe this, there is a bridge in Brooklyn that I've put up for sale.

Do you don’t believe the 9-1-1 audio or the video footage?

Video, mostly. I certainly don't believe the gunmen's stories, or the way you are trying so hard to spin your narrative. What's your connection to the gunmen?

No connection. I am not invested in this emotionally. I look at only the actual evidence. That’s what logical people do and that is what the justice system attempts to do. “Social Justice” on the other hand is fueled by emotion, and has an Agenda. Social Justice Terrorists could care less about the facts and evidence, all they care about is using the situation to create racial divide in order to help their Marxist party win elections. This is how they motivate their base.

:Because the burglar ran off to the side. If they were “chasing him down” why did the black “jogger” run right in front of the stopped vehicle and charge at the man with the shotgun?"

cats get it when confronted with their turds. the above real amerikan won't get it.

well no, the question is why didn't the jogger just keep jogging when he passed the truck? no one was in his way at all.

So they could shoot him in the back? Get back in the truck and run him over? I think it had gone beyond "ignoring" at that point.

well they could have done that anytime during his run right? I mean, that has no logic.

 

[bodecea]

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

We cannot see what happens out of the camera view. They claim they thought he was a burglar. But certainly at a minimum 2nd degree murder seems applicable. We also cannot know if it was racially motivated.

As you say we cant see the beginning of the struggle

but odds are the black guy attacked the white kid and attempted to take the shotgun away

which he failed to do

These guys were in a truck and obviously cut off this jogger, who was on foot. If they "thought" that he "might" be a burglar, they always had the option to call the police, so I want to hear the recording of their 911 call and what the dispatcher instructed them to do. Certainly they have no claim to self defense.

The picture of one of the alleged murderers with the governor and wearing a shirt that insults religion gives the impression that he is not credible and trustworthy.

Lot of unanswered questions. We cannot deterime if this was racially motivated at all. What's happening outside the camera view? Why is someone videoing this incident? Surely the DA would have brought charges sooner if this was an open shut case of murder. 2nd degree or manslaughter seems the likely charges then Al Sharpton and AOC can have something to protest.

It looks like premeditated murder, which is first degree.

Thats silly

what I see are three, thats right I said THREE, knuckleheads that collided with tragic consequences

So, it turns out somebody caught it on video. It is clear from the video that the jogger was ambushed. The truck stopped in the road ahead of him, waiting on him to run by, and when he went around the truck, the driver jumped him while the other man, standing in the back of the truck, either shot the jogger, or was aiming and ready to shoot.

These men were not in fear of their lives. They ambushed the jogger plain and simple. Try them, and if convicted, give them the maximum sentence possible.

Video posted online as DA says case of Georgia man who was chased and killed will go to grand jury | CNN

A Georgia district attorney is recommending that the case of a man who was chased, shot and killed while running more than two months ago go to a grand jury, according to a news release obtained by CNN.

www.cnn.com

I support the death penalty for murder........is there any information on why they murdered this guy?

I support self defense, and the video in the OP shows the jogger kid attacked the truck driver. didn't you watch? We know nothing more. And, why was the jogger being followed with a video camera? that's odd.

No, it doesn't clearly show that. The truck blocks the view.

But agree, what was the deal with the video? Who shot it and why? What did they see?

It looks like another setup to bring back the black vote.... ala Michael Brown or Trayvon.
Just like clockwork during an election cycle the media digs up a 2 month old incident that eventually proves to be totally different from what they first reported.

Of course. You see a conspiracy here. You always do.

Well...you can't see a pattern here because you're gay.

Nevermind the fact that both the Trayvon and Michael Brown fiascos turned out to both be journalistic malpractice.
In layman's terms....they were both frauds.
So forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical in this latest opportunistic event.
Maybe they can get Trump to comment on it so they can blame him for it, what do you think?

It's a con-spiracy!

 

[OldLady]

..plain and simple:
..he was doing no wrong
..the suspects admit to chasing/blocking/intercepting him--and they admit he even peacefully tried to get away
...they shot him
..he finally was FORCED to stand his ground

I have a slightly different opinion, after seeing the video.

He was doing no wrong by jogging.
They did chase/block/intercept him
I have not read where he "peacefully" tried to get away
He tried to take the shotgun away from one of them, even punched him multiple times
The struggle went on long enough for the person with the handgun to shot many times over, without hitting the shotgun guy, but he did not shoot. The shotgun guy could have shot him several times, but did not. The gun was going off because of the struggle.
At no time did it appear to me that this guy could not have just ran away, given the multiple opportunities for both gunmen to shoot him.
I never once saw him attempt to flee.

Despite the jogger not having a duty to flee, the fact that he didn't when many opportunities presented themselves, indicate that he was not acting out of fear, but out of anger.

Either way, everybody was stupid in this situation.

.

Again, we do not know what was said when he was confronted and if we had a way to know what was said then we would have a very clear reason why the jogger did what he did...

Abbie Sciuto would figure out what they said.

 

[bodecea]

Idk, but I tend to run away from people pointing guns at me.

Truth be told, you run if someone looks at you sternly. Some people are not afraid of guns and it pisses them off when someone points one at them.

Yeah, they're dead and I'm not. How ya like them apples? You ever been shot at, dork? I have, it's not a good feeling. If you're not afraid of having a gun pointed at you, you're a retard.

I've been shot at twice and had a gun pointed in my face as well. The guy that pointed it at me is no longer with us. If I die then that is what was meant to be. I've never been afraid to die.

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Not really. Some people are passive. I just happen to be one thats not. Doesnt make me tough but it does make me a fucking problem if you are not fast.

It could make you dead if you're not as fast as the squeeze of a trigger. You got to know when to hold and when to fold. Lemme guess, you don't play poker, huh?

I'm good with that. Hazard of being wired like I am and totally acceptable to me. I dont gamble or do anything that could be addictive.

You take the risk of attacking someone with a gun pointed in your face? Odds are 9/1 you're gonna die.

It's a reaction so there is no calculation of odds. You piss me off and youre going to have a problem to deal with so you better be fast. I already said I have no fear of death when I am angry. Lots of people are the same way.

So if you're made angry..what?

You'd charge somebody with a pistol or shotgun on you?
If so, well, you're derper than I thought you were...by a smidgen.

Well now, comparing sizes are we?

when might you reach that size?

I'm not some small handed beta male.

We know, you're Big Bo-Pete, the plywood magnate.

What does that even mean?

 

[Ame®icano]

....I'm all for shooting jackass criminals down, just like dogs.......but looks like this jogger was doing nothing wrong

"jogger"

LOL

"kid eating skittles"
"hands up, don't shoot"

Just another dindu nuttin.

yeah. just another black man shot by real americans. thug had it coming, cuz he black.

Thug had it coming, cause he's thug.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Idk, but I tend to run away from people pointing guns at me.

Truth be told, you run if someone looks at you sternly. Some people are not afraid of guns and it pisses them off when someone points one at them.

Yeah, they're dead and I'm not. How ya like them apples? You ever been shot at, dork? I have, it's not a good feeling. If you're not afraid of having a gun pointed at you, you're a retard.

I've been shot at twice and had a gun pointed in my face as well. The guy that pointed it at me is no longer with us. If I die then that is what was meant to be. I've never been afraid to die.

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Not really. Some people are passive. I just happen to be one thats not. Doesnt make me tough but it does make me a fucking problem if you are not fast.

It could make you dead if you're not as fast as the squeeze of a trigger. You got to know when to hold and when to fold. Lemme guess, you don't play poker, huh?

I'm good with that. Hazard of being wired like I am and totally acceptable to me. I dont gamble or do anything that could be addictive.

You take the risk of attacking someone with a gun pointed in your face? Odds are 9/1 you're gonna die.

It's a reaction so there is no calculation of odds. You piss me off and youre going to have a problem to deal with so you better be fast. I already said I have no fear of death when I am angry. Lots of people are the same way.

So if you're made angry..what?

You'd charge somebody with a pistol or shotgun on you?
If so, well, you're derper than I thought you were...by a smidgen.

Well now, comparing sizes are we?

when might you reach that size?

I'm not some small handed beta male.

We know, you're Big Bo-Pete, the plywood magnate.

What does that even mean?

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You are a magnate in the realm of alleged Air Force plywood delivery.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

..plain and simple:
..he was doing no wrong
..the suspects admit to chasing/blocking/intercepting him--and they admit he even peacefully tried to get away
...they shot him
..he finally was FORCED to stand his ground

I have a slightly different opinion, after seeing the video.

He was doing no wrong by jogging.
They did chase/block/intercept him
I have not read where he "peacefully" tried to get away
He tried to take the shotgun away from one of them, even punched him multiple times
The struggle went on long enough for the person with the handgun to shot many times over, without hitting the shotgun guy, but he did not shoot. The shotgun guy could have shot him several times, but did not. The gun was going off because of the struggle.
At no time did it appear to me that this guy could not have just ran away, given the multiple opportunities for both gunmen to shoot him.
I never once saw him attempt to flee.

Despite the jogger not having a duty to flee, the fact that he didn't when many opportunities presented themselves, indicate that he was not acting out of fear, but out of anger.

Either way, everybody was stupid in this situation.

.

Again, we do not know what was said when he was confronted and if we had a way to know what was said then we would have a very clear reason why the jogger did what he did...

Abbie Sciuto would figure out what they said.

Maybe if you gave me a scooby snack I could also figure it out...

 

[theHawk]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

If you believe this, there is a bridge in Brooklyn that I've put up for sale.

Do you don’t believe the 9-1-1 audio or the video footage?

Video, mostly. I certainly don't believe the gunmen's stories, or the way you are trying so hard to spin your narrative. What's your connection to the gunmen?

No connection. I am not invested in this emotionally. I look at only the actual evidence. That’s what logical people do and that is what the justice system attempts to do. “Social Justice” on the other hand is fueled by emotion, and has an Agenda. Social Justice Terrorists could care less about the facts and evidence, all they care about is using the situation to create racial divide in order to help their Marxist party win elections. This is how they motivate their base.

What is wrong with seeking "social justice"? There is nothing wrong with insisting on "liberty and justice for all" as we declare in the salute to our flag. Your fractured political views and obsession with some "Marxist" nonsense spoon-fed to you by some lame talk-show host have nothing to do with deciding this case on the facts and evidence. You cannot keep introducing as "fact" or "evidence" some story that somebody concocted on the internet, particularly with the existence of the video.

Because only useful idiot lemmings of the leftist variety seek Social Justice.
Non-thinking hive mind drones.

It figures that you fly the traitor flag, as you obviously do not believe in American values. When someone is murdered, we Americans seek to hold the killer accountable.

What traitor flag? What are you babbling about?

 

[Ame®icano]

Who is running toward somebody the black or the white guy?

Arbery runs around the truck to be confronted by a man holding a rifle. It's not hard to believe Arbery was in fear for his life. Neither of these guys are police and neither of them had any reason to confront him.

Your opinion is irrelevant as you are a known racist.

^^^BOOM^^^

Jits and Asclepias are two sides of the same racist coin. Neither can be taken very seriously when logic is required.

I’m typing what the video shows

Then we are seeing two vastly different encounters. Does your video show the man to be larger and faster than a typical truck?

do you see a truck chasing the jogger? again, post the time from the video showing that. I'll wait.

No. This is an assumption I am making. Need more facts than the 35 second video but people have yet to explain why the persons in the truck did not drive away. If more of the story comes out and there is a credible reason, I will gladly retract what I said. My intuition has been great so far in my life so I will continue to trust it. Hopefully more details come out regarding this homicide.

you don't know if that black man threatened someone prior to the incident, you don't know if he was a home invader, maybe he keyed their truck. No one fking knows. dude you jumped into hanging without one piece of evidence. wow. again, isn't like you at all.

Don't know and don't care anymore. TBH. I would have called the police and taken his picture but thats me. If people like Assfaceias see me as an equal to those men then I'll play the part and just shrug...my bad for actually caring initially. He, IM2, MarcATL all assholes.

I find it interesting that you can’t seem to discuss white conservative racist assholes without adding the names of some black guys who you believe are racists too.

What’s up with that?

Because Assfaceias blatantly said that because I am white he does not want my help or opinion. IM2 and Marc have made similar statements before. Me being white makes me the enemy. So now, I'll just shrug. When you tell me to "fuck off" and you don't need or want my help then you reap what you sow. What morons like them and likely you don't comprehend is that racists hate Jews more than blacks and I have seen racism more frequently than any of those jokes, I would wager, but they don't care because I am "white".

What you don't get, Lone Leftist, is that racism is not only a white disease. Blacks may be racist too and those three I mentioned are case in point.

I must have really hurt your feelings. You still talking about me? Dont be mad bro. Like I told you before, I dont need nor did I ask for your help. Not because youre white. Because youre white and you assume I need your help. If you have to be convinced that Black people shouldnt be killed by racists then youre a racist.

I am responding to Lone Leftist's question. To me all lives are equal, I don't play the race game. But you don't want to hear that. In actuality, I don't care what you want or think. You're an idiot and a coward, by your own self admission. Not sure why you keep responding to my posts? You lonely hiding under that bed?

Bullshit. You specifically said Black people have to get you on their side. Like I said then I will say now. Fuck you. I dont want or need your type of help. Dont be mad about that bro.

Das rite! You don't want help, until you need help. Than you demand it, or you'll cry racism.

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What white supremacist site did you get that off of?

That's your life story.

 

[Meathead]

the "jogger" was clearly trying to #WalkAway

the "thug" was clearly trying to #RunAway

 

[Jitss617]

....I'm all for shooting jackass criminals down, just like dogs.......but looks like this jogger was doing nothing wrong

"jogger"

LOL

"kid eating skittles"
"hands up, don't shoot"

Just another dindu nuttin.

yeah. just another black man shot by real americans. thug had it coming, cuz he black.

Thug had it coming, cause he's thug.

I just think a lot of African-Americans want to commit suicide because of the oppression Democrats to put on them

 

[L.K.Eder]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

If you believe this, there is a bridge in Brooklyn that I've put up for sale.

Do you don’t believe the 9-1-1 audio or the video footage?

Video, mostly. I certainly don't believe the gunmen's stories, or the way you are trying so hard to spin your narrative. What's your connection to the gunmen?

No connection. I am not invested in this emotionally. I look at only the actual evidence. That’s what logical people do and that is what the justice system attempts to do. “Social Justice” on the other hand is fueled by emotion, and has an Agenda. Social Justice Terrorists could care less about the facts and evidence, all they care about is using the situation to create racial divide in order to help their Marxist party win elections. This is how they motivate their base.

:Because the burglar ran off to the side. If they were “chasing him down” why did the black “jogger” run right in front of the stopped vehicle and charge at the man with the shotgun?"

cats get it when confronted with their turds. the above real amerikan won't get it.

well no, the question is why didn't the jogger just keep jogging when he passed the truck? no one was in his way at all.

So they could shoot him in the back? Get back in the truck and run him over? I think it had gone beyond "ignoring" at that point.

well they could have done that anytime during his run right? I mean, that has no logic.

travis, george, and roddy sure did corner that negroe eventually. i am sure they will get some kind of award for keeping the white road safe.

 

[OldLady]

Now, a trial.

QUESTION: Why are they protesting in front of the court house (I heard on the radio) when the two men have been arrested and charged with murder?

Because it is Georgia and they need a good lynching to calm the public down...

Ya think I'm joking don't cha!

Maybe these guys shouldn't be in a rush to bail out.

 

[Lysistrata]

Here is an unedited video.

Video Shows Fatal Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, Unarmed Black Man in Georgia

The fatal shooting of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old unarmed black man, was caught on video and has prompted a grand jury investigation.

www.tmz.com

This apparently was after burglar suspect 1 had evaded them a few times by running through yards. As you can see, black burglar suspect 1 is running from the person filming. The truck is parked in the street. As he “jogs” up the left side of the road, he then suddenly went way over to the right. Then he runs past the truck and attacks the man (Travis) with the shotgun. At that point it is an altercation between the two men. Travis fires in self defense.

If black burglar suspect 1 was “just jogging”, why did he cut across the road to go around the truck in an attempt to sneak up on the man with the shotgun standing in front of the truck? If he was just jogging then why not keep jogging on the left side of the road? I mean, unless you just did something wrong, why would you be afraid of these guys?

How did the gunmen and the guy in the car behind think that Arbery was a burglary suspect in the first place? When did they determine that he was a suspect to their minds and when did the gunmen swerve in front of him and pull out guns when he couldn't see them due to a curve in the road?

BTW: the actual video began long before the fight scene, when Abery was still just jogging. This video has been clipped.

 

[L.K.Eder]

the "jogger" was clearly trying to #WalkAway

the "thug" was clearly trying to #RunAway

he was about to vote for republicans cuz they clearly care. but then he was shot for being a thug.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Now, a trial.

QUESTION: Why are they protesting in front of the court house (I heard on the radio) when the two men have been arrested and charged with murder?

Because it is Georgia and they need a good lynching to calm the public down...

Ya think I'm joking don't cha!

Maybe these guys shouldn't be in a rush to bail out.

If they were smart they would get bonded and then go into hiding until their trial but in that part of Georgia, not likely they will hide...

 

[OldLady]

again, they are illegally detaining/hindering him.....unless he just committed a crime ....did he?

They are not detaining him........again.......watch the video.........at all times the black guy had freedom of movement.....there was absolutely nothing to prevent him from jogging on down the street as he should have.

There was no excuse for him to attack the white guy with the gun.

They are detaining him. According to the fathers own words the incident in the video is at least the 3rd time they attempted to cut Ahmaud off. They went above and beyond what Georgia law allows for a citizens arrest. Ahmaud is under no obligation to talk to them. The father and son needed to let him got and just dial 911 after the first attempt to stop him. Instead they followed him and cut him off 2 more times. This was harassment and not a citizens arrest. It seems clear Ahmaud is trying to avoid them in the video (which is at last the 3rd time they cut him off) by swerving and running around the right side of the truck. But Travis moves to the front of the truck and cuts him off. I'm wondering what was going through Ahmaud's mind at that point knowing these guys weren't going to let him go. IMO he had a right to assume a defensive posture. A jury will decide.

I'm a Trump supporter and big defender of the 2nd Amendment. But this type of vigilante justice is NOT why we have the right to own weapons. The father and son had a right to open carry. They had a right to request Ahmaud stop to talk to them. But once Ahmaud made it clear he did not want to talk to them, they did not have a right to cut him off 3 times and block his path with a show of intimidating force. The poor decisions made by the father and son led to this incident. Under Georgia law this looks like involuntary manslaughter at least.

..they can request to talk to him, but they don't have a right to.....if fact, that can be seen as harassment

harassment especially if they are holding firearms......I talk to people everyday--but they don't have firearms

Lookie here boyo...in this nation anyone has a right to talk or try to talk to anyone...not complicated at all.
.....do you know the law regarding harassment?

And anyone in this nation has the right to not be harassed by strangers without being shot. Boy.

Well don’t try to steal a gun. Man this black guy was crazy

he actually pulled the gun into his own midsection after it went off twice.

Oooooooh. I see. It was suicide by red neck.

If you’re defending your house somebody breaks in and try to grab a gun in your hand what did you call that?

Who's how was being broken into? Who was in someone's house grabbing a gun in someone's hand?

The video shows a black guy wrestling the gun from the white guy and he got shot in his fucking chest, did he think his race card made him bulletproof lol

Here's the problem with everyone argument and it is the two that are being charged for murder admitted they followed the guy because they claim he fit a description of someone robbing the area.

Then the two had their guns out and had no business of trying to subdue the individual and they should have called the local authorities.

Laws are different from State to State but if someone is trying to stop you while running and you are black and they are white and they are holding a firearm to stop you from leaving then those holding the firearm could be in trouble.

Again, it is what the two men said why they were following the other guy is what will get them into trouble and the video hurt them even of the man lunges at the guy with the drawn firearm because that guy had no business getting out of his truck and trying to stop the other man.

they did call 911.

Then they should have left it to the local authorities and they had no business trying to subdue the person after he had been down the road.

They could have followed at a distance and gave the 911 operator the person home address or if they gotten in a vehicle the plate number and description of the automobile.

Again, this has been told countless of times do not take the law into your own hands unless your life is threaten and the two white guys put their lives at risk when confronting the runner.

they were looking to keep under control until the cops got there. Maybe stupid, but isn't illegal either.

You can not have guns drawn while waiting for someone to run down the road.

Also it is not illegal to run down a road and they had no business chasing after him unless a crime had been committed and they were witness to the crime.

They were a witness to a crime. One of them saw the man trespassing in a house under construction, called 9-1-1. Then the black man wearing a white t-shirt took off running when he realized he was spotted.

They followed him in their truck. Called 9-1-1 again. That’s when the black man wearing a white t-shirt attacked the man with the shotgun.

If you believe this, there is a bridge in Brooklyn that I've put up for sale.

Do you don’t believe the 9-1-1 audio or the video footage?

Video, mostly. I certainly don't believe the gunmen's stories, or the way you are trying so hard to spin your narrative. What's your connection to the gunmen?

No connection. I am not invested in this emotionally. I look at only the actual evidence. That’s what logical people do and that is what the justice system attempts to do. “Social Justice” on the other hand is fueled by emotion, and has an Agenda. Social Justice Terrorists could care less about the facts and evidence, all they care about is using the situation to create racial divide in order to help their Marxist party win elections. This is how they motivate their base.

:Because the burglar ran off to the side. If they were “chasing him down” why did the black “jogger” run right in front of the stopped vehicle and charge at the man with the shotgun?"

cats get it when confronted with their turds. the above real amerikan won't get it.

well no, the question is why didn't the jogger just keep jogging when he passed the truck? no one was in his way at all.

So they could shoot him in the back? Get back in the truck and run him over? I think it had gone beyond "ignoring" at that point.

well they could have done that anytime during his run right? I mean, that has no logic.

It's illegal to hunt from any motor vehicle.