Was Patton right all along?

[GMCGeneral]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why? Well...
1. This would've likely stopped or at least stemmed the worldwide spread of Communism
2. Averted a 45 year Cold War between the US and the USSR
3. Stopped Stalin's continued human rights violations
4. Ensured US worldwide Supremacy
Had this happened, I don't think we would've had the Communist/Socialist cancer on the US like we do now.

 

[DudleySmith]

No real point then to liberating eastern Europe back then, as they were either pro-German or pro-Soviet, and not worth a a lot of U.S. casualties 'liberating' them at the time. We had our hands full securing Germany and Europe was facing a famine and needed rebuilding and stabilization for several years into the future.

Patton was a good division commander, not a great strategic thinker. He knew this himself at some level, hence his effective lobbying for leap-frogging Eisenhower to head Allied command in Europe over himself and others. He was smarter than MacArthur, another of the silver spoon military elite of his day. Ignore the conspiracy theorists. George Marshall was also the right choice as supreme commander in those days.

Harry Truman was a Congressman at the time. Truman thought we should have switched back and forth between backing Stalin when Hitler was winning, then backing Hitler when Stalin was winning, until both were destroyed. lol Truman was probably right in hindsight.

We won the Cold War, and without going nuclear, thanks to the containment policies. The Soviets were bankrupted by 1973, 28 years later. The cost in American lives re Korea and Viet Nam was less than the death tolls from drunk driving over two or three average years of the 1960's.

 

[GMCGeneral]

No real point then to liberating eastern Europe back then, as they were either pro-German or pro-Soviet, and not worth a a lot of U.S. casualties 'liberating' them at the time. We had our hands full securing Germany and Europe was facing a famine and needed rebuilding and stabilization for several years into the future.

Patton was a good division commander, not a great strategic thinker. He knew this himself at some level, hence his effective lobbying for leap-frogging Eisenhower to head Allied command in Europe over himself and others. He was smarter than MacArthur, another of the silver spoon military elite of his day. Ignore the conspiracy theorists. George Marshall was also the right choice as supreme commander in those days.

Harry Truman was a Congressman at the time. Truman thought we should have switched back and forth between backing Stalin when Hitler was winning, then backing Hitler when Stalin was winning, until both were destroyed. lol Truman was probably right in hindsight.

We won the Cold War, and without going nuclear, thanks to the containment policies. The Soviets were bankrupted by 1973, 28 years later. The cost in American lives re Korea and Viet Nam was less than the death tolls from drunk driving over two or three average years of the 1960's.

I wasn't talking about a ground invasion so much as detonating another two nukes.

 

[candycorn]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why? Well...
1. This would've likely stopped or at least stemmed the worldwide spread of Communism
2. Averted a 45 year Cold War between the US and the USSR
3. Stopped Stalin's continued human rights violations
4. Ensured US worldwide Supremacy
Had this happened, I don't think we would've had the Communist/Socialist cancer on the US like we do now.

no

 

[luiza]

I wasn't talking about a ground invasion so much as detonating another two nukes.

Either a fan of a very dark humour or somebody desperately in need of guidance and correction .

In more simple times people like you were quietly "Disappeared" for good pragmatic reasons .

 

[mudwhistle]

Either a fan of a very dark humour or somebody desperately in need of guidance and correction .

In more simple times people like you were quietly "Disappeared" for good pragmatic reasons .

Yep, and there will never be a shortage of people like you.

 

[toobfreak]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why?

Who can say? The thing is that doing so might have been right, it might have been effective, but smacks of American imperialism and manifest destiny. And the USA has repeatedly shown that whenever it takes over and runs things, it usually does a pretty bad job. Far better would be if the nations of the world simply grew up and learned to get along cooperatively.

 

[there4eyeM]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why? Well...
1. This would've likely stopped or at least stemmed the worldwide spread of Communism
2. Averted a 45 year Cold War between the US and the USSR
3. Stopped Stalin's continued human rights violations
4. Ensured US worldwide Supremacy
Had this happened, I don't think we would've had the Communist/Socialist cancer on the US like we do now.

Not after the Japanese cities; before.

 

[Moonglow]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why? Well...
1. This would've likely stopped or at least stemmed the worldwide spread of Communism
2. Averted a 45 year Cold War between the US and the USSR
3. Stopped Stalin's continued human rights violations
4. Ensured US worldwide Supremacy
Had this happened, I don't think we would've had the Communist/Socialist cancer on the US like we do now.

We had no more atomic bombs after the two were dropped on Japan and one was tested in Nevada.

 

[Moonglow]

We were not at war with Russia so there was no reason to kill them.

 

[surada]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why? Well...
1. This would've likely stopped or at least stemmed the worldwide spread of Communism
2. Averted a 45 year Cold War between the US and the USSR
3. Stopped Stalin's continued human rights violations
4. Ensured US worldwide Supremacy
Had this happened, I don't think we would've had the Communist/Socialist cancer on the US like we do now.

You want to decide what kind of government other countries choose... or kill them into compliance.

 

[gipper]

Gen. George S. Patton suggested that after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by nuclear gravity bombs, we, meaning the US, subject the Soviet cities of Moscow and Stalingrad to the same treatment. My thinking is Truman should've absolutely listened to Patton. Why? Well...
1. This would've likely stopped or at least stemmed the worldwide spread of Communism
2. Averted a 45 year Cold War between the US and the USSR
3. Stopped Stalin's continued human rights violations
4. Ensured US worldwide Supremacy
Had this happened, I don't think we would've had the Communist/Socialist cancer on the US like we do now.

Yeah killing massive numbers of innocent civilians is the American Way. WTF is wrong with you?

Russia lost close to 30 million people in WWII, and won the war. Only a fool thinks nuking them would have resulted in what you suggest.

Do you work for Raytheon or Lockheed Martin?

Americans like you have failed to learn from history. Live by the sword die by the sword.

 

[gipper]

You want to decide what kind of government other countries choose... or kill them into compliance.

It’s become the American Way…and will ultimately result in our demise.