Zone1 Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?

[mudwhistle]

It's said that where the Tigrus and Euphrates meet it is the most fertile soil on the planet.

This is supposed to be originally the area that the Garden of Eden was located.

This is in Iraq.

One of my buddies who spent time in Iraq after Desert Storm said there's a place in Iraq where you can grow anything without fertilizer or water.

Where Is The Garden Of Eden? And Where Would It Be Located Today?

If we take the Bible's description, we can speculate that the Garden of Eden is located somewhere near Iraq and Iran around the Persian Gulf.

www.iflscience.com

Where is the Garden of Eden in Africa?​

On a more scientific jaunt: if we are to believe that the Garden of Eden symbolizes the origins of humans then we undoubtedly have to turn our heads to Africa.

The so-called Cradle of Humankind can be found in South Africa around 50 kilometers (31 miles) northwest of Johannesburg. This site is home to the largest concentration of human ancestral remains anywhere in the world. Among the thousands of fossils found here, researchers have unearthed the remains of Australopithecus, an early ape-like human species dated to around 3.4 to 3.7 million years old.

It wasn’t until 200,00 to 300,000 years ago that modern Homo sapiens evolved. Once again, Africa was the location of this development, with modern humans most likely first emerging somewhere around modern-day Ethiopia.

So, if we're looking for a scientific Garden of Eden, it looks like South Africa and Ethiopia are our best bet. Whether these sites were once home to a paradise where four rivers once met remains to be seen, however.

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

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[Zebra]

could be …

 

[Crepitus]

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It's said that where the Tigrus and Euphrates meet it is the most fertile soil on the planet.

This is supposed to be originally the area that the Garden of Eden was located.

This is in Iraq.

One of my buddies who spent time in Iraq after Desert Storm said there's a place in Iraq where you can grow anything without fertilizer or water.

Where Is The Garden Of Eden? And Where Would It Be Located Today?

If we take the Bible's description, we can speculate that the Garden of Eden is located somewhere near Iraq and Iran around the Persian Gulf.

www.iflscience.com

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

Of course not.

 

[Kruska]

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Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?​

Only for people like you - believing in kiddo books, fairy tales, ghosts and non scientific proven assumptions.
How a person living in the 21st century can - with all the science and archeological evidence available - keep his fantasy about Adam&Eve, alive, only proves his inability to think for himself.

 

[mudwhistle]

Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?​

Only for people like you - believing in kiddo books, fairy tales, ghosts and non scientific proven assumptions.
How a person living in the 21st century can - with all the science and archeological evidence available - keep his fantasy about Adam&Eve, alive, only proves his inability to think for himself.

I've always believed Adam&Eve was a parable.
A representation of humanity.
Not a biography.

 

[BreezeWood]

planet earth is the garden of eden, the desert story is what never existed ...

 

[tyroneweaver]

Yes it is real
The creation
The fall of Adam and eve
The atonement of Christ

Are the 3 most transcendental events in mankind’s history

 

[Kruska]

I couldn't care less about what religion you supposedly "adhere" to.
You are citing the Bible - terming it's very initial "creation" claims, (supposedly God's spoken words) to be a parable - then you call those who do not believe in the Bible - Devil Worshipers.

You are just a plain religious nut

 

[Kruska]

Yes it is real
The creation
The fall of Adam and eve
The atonement of Christ

Are the 3 most transcendental events in mankind’s history

Certainly not in regards to mankind's history - only in religious claimed history, deriving from a self-written fantasy book, that doesn't behold any scientific approach.

 

[Polishprince]

Our Mormon friends believe that the Garden of Eden was in Independence Missouri.

Makes some sense that it would be in a red state

 

[Stryder50]

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It's said that where the Tigrus and Euphrates meet it is the most fertile soil on the planet.

This is supposed to be originally the area that the Garden of Eden was located.

This is in Iraq.

One of my buddies who spent time in Iraq after Desert Storm said there's a place in Iraq where you can grow anything without fertilizer or water.

Where Is The Garden Of Eden? And Where Would It Be Located Today?

If we take the Bible's description, we can speculate that the Garden of Eden is located somewhere near Iraq and Iran around the Persian Gulf.

www.iflscience.com

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

From your last link;
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“The Ahwar of Southern Iraq – also known as the Iraqi Marshlands – are unique, as one of the world’s largest inland delta systems, in an extremely hot and arid environment,” write Unesco in their designation. The organization lists seven sites of interest within the wetlands, three of which are archaeological while four are wetland marsh areas, and include the ancient sites of Ur, thought to have been the birthplace of Abraham. But its long history has been far from easy.

The Ahwar, despite being one of the richest environments in the entire Middle East, has a tragic history. Rumored to have been the inspiration for the Garden of Eden as it sits at the confluences of the Tigris and Euphrates, the diverse reed beds supported massive biodiversity in the form of huge numbers of birds and fish, a rare aquatic landscape in the middle of a desert.

Civilizations have risen and fallen on its banks, agriculture started, and the origins of the written word come from its midst. Covering some 20,000 square kilometers (7,700 square miles), the Mesopotamian Marshes, as they are also known, played a key role in the development of not only people and culture in the region but also wildlife, especially those migrating across Eurasia and into Africa, from flamingos to pelicans.

But in the 1990s, this little slice of life flourishing from the arid desert was devastated. The then President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, decided to punish the Marsh Arabs who had lived in the wetlands for six millennia for rebelling during the Gulf War, by destroying the wetland on which their entire way of life depended. By building dams and dykes, Hussein succeeded in draining the marshland, and reduced it to just 10 percent of its original size.

However, since Hussein was deposed during the Iraq War, the future of the marshes has been looking up. When Iraqi-born engineer Azzam Alwash returned to the country, he made it his mission to try and restore the wetlands to their former glory. By removing the dams and dykes, destroying the canals and drainage systems, Alwash has spearheaded a move to re-flood the marshes, and has been doing a pretty good job of it. So far around 30 percent has been restored and hopefully, with this designation from Unesco, more will follow.
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Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

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Many of us consider this the worse intentional example of environmental and ecological weapon of mass destruction. This affected bird and fish migrations and habitat beyond the borders of Iraq, spilling over into the whole Persian Gulf region.

Reason enough to resume where the 1st Gulf War cease-fire left off and get rid of Saddam and his regime.

 

[Stryder50]

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It's said that where the Tigrus and Euphrates meet it is the most fertile soil on the planet.

This is supposed to be originally the area that the Garden of Eden was located.

This is in Iraq.

One of my buddies who spent time in Iraq after Desert Storm said there's a place in Iraq where you can grow anything without fertilizer or water.

Where Is The Garden Of Eden? And Where Would It Be Located Today?

If we take the Bible's description, we can speculate that the Garden of Eden is located somewhere near Iraq and Iran around the Persian Gulf.

www.iflscience.com

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

Started before the Old Testament was written;

Enūma Eliš (Akkadian Cuneiform: 𒂊𒉡𒈠𒂊𒇺, also spelled "Enuma Elish") is the Babylonian creation myth (named after its opening words).
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On examination it became clear that the Assyrian myths were drawn from or similar to the Babylonian ones. Additionally Sir Henry Rawlinson had noted similarities between Biblical accounts of creation and the geography of Babylonia. He suggested that biblical creation stories might have their origin in that area. ...
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Smith's publication of his work led to an expedition to Assyria funded by The Daily Telegraph. There he found further tablets describing the deluge as well as fragmentary accounts of creation, a text on a war between good and evil 'gods', and a fall of man myth. A second expedition by Smith brought back further creation legend fragments. By 1875 he had returned and began publishing accounts of these discoveries in the Daily Telegraph from 4 March 1875.[10][11]
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Enūma Eliš - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[mudwhistle]

Our Mormon friends believe that the Garden of Eden was in Independence Missouri.

Makes some sense that it would be in a red state

Mormons also used to think they could have more than one wife like Muslims.
They also believe that Joseph Smith dug up a golden tablet but it was taken from him before anyone could see it.
Anyone who's read the book of Mormon can tell it's not the word of God.

 

[Rodimus]

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It's said that where the Tigrus and Euphrates meet it is the most fertile soil on the planet.

This is supposed to be originally the area that the Garden of Eden was located.

This is in Iraq.

One of my buddies who spent time in Iraq after Desert Storm said there's a place in Iraq where you can grow anything without fertilizer or water.

Where Is The Garden Of Eden? And Where Would It Be Located Today?

If we take the Bible's description, we can speculate that the Garden of Eden is located somewhere near Iraq and Iran around the Persian Gulf.

www.iflscience.com

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

I believe the Garden of Eden was our whole planet that was called Eden where Humans first appeared. Just like during the time of Atlantis our planet was called Atlantis, not Earth at the time. Eden to Lemuria to Atlantis to now Earth. This information is in Dolores Cannon's books.

 

[surada]

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It's said that where the Tigrus and Euphrates meet it is the most fertile soil on the planet.

This is supposed to be originally the area that the Garden of Eden was located.

This is in Iraq.

One of my buddies who spent time in Iraq after Desert Storm said there's a place in Iraq where you can grow anything without fertilizer or water.

Where Is The Garden Of Eden? And Where Would It Be Located Today?

If we take the Bible's description, we can speculate that the Garden of Eden is located somewhere near Iraq and Iran around the Persian Gulf.

www.iflscience.com

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

Dilmun. AKA Bahrain.

 

[surada]

From your last link;
...
“The Ahwar of Southern Iraq – also known as the Iraqi Marshlands – are unique, as one of the world’s largest inland delta systems, in an extremely hot and arid environment,” write Unesco in their designation. The organization lists seven sites of interest within the wetlands, three of which are archaeological while four are wetland marsh areas, and include the ancient sites of Ur, thought to have been the birthplace of Abraham. But its long history has been far from easy.

The Ahwar, despite being one of the richest environments in the entire Middle East, has a tragic history. Rumored to have been the inspiration for the Garden of Eden as it sits at the confluences of the Tigris and Euphrates, the diverse reed beds supported massive biodiversity in the form of huge numbers of birds and fish, a rare aquatic landscape in the middle of a desert.

Civilizations have risen and fallen on its banks, agriculture started, and the origins of the written word come from its midst. Covering some 20,000 square kilometers (7,700 square miles), the Mesopotamian Marshes, as they are also known, played a key role in the development of not only people and culture in the region but also wildlife, especially those migrating across Eurasia and into Africa, from flamingos to pelicans.

But in the 1990s, this little slice of life flourishing from the arid desert was devastated. The then President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, decided to punish the Marsh Arabs who had lived in the wetlands for six millennia for rebelling during the Gulf War, by destroying the wetland on which their entire way of life depended. By building dams and dykes, Hussein succeeded in draining the marshland, and reduced it to just 10 percent of its original size.

However, since Hussein was deposed during the Iraq War, the future of the marshes has been looking up. When Iraqi-born engineer Azzam Alwash returned to the country, he made it his mission to try and restore the wetlands to their former glory. By removing the dams and dykes, destroying the canals and drainage systems, Alwash has spearheaded a move to re-flood the marshes, and has been doing a pretty good job of it. So far around 30 percent has been restored and hopefully, with this designation from Unesco, more will follow.
...

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

........
Many of us consider this the worse intentional example of environmental and ecological weapon of mass destruction. This affected bird and fish migrations and habitat beyond the borders of Iraq, spilling over into the whole Persian Gulf region.

Reason enough to resume where the 1st Gulf War cease-fire left off and get rid of Saddam and his regime.

The Marsh Arabs have been there 6000 years. They speak Gulf Arabic. There's an author who lived with them for decades...named Terwilliger?? He used to lecture in Arabia when I was a student.

The name is Theisinger.

In The Marshes Of Iraq - AramcoWorld

Amidst "the stillness of a world that never knew an engine... he found at last a life he longed to know and share.

www.aramcoworld.com

 

[surada]

From your last link;
...
“The Ahwar of Southern Iraq – also known as the Iraqi Marshlands – are unique, as one of the world’s largest inland delta systems, in an extremely hot and arid environment,” write Unesco in their designation. The organization lists seven sites of interest within the wetlands, three of which are archaeological while four are wetland marsh areas, and include the ancient sites of Ur, thought to have been the birthplace of Abraham. But its long history has been far from easy.

The Ahwar, despite being one of the richest environments in the entire Middle East, has a tragic history. Rumored to have been the inspiration for the Garden of Eden as it sits at the confluences of the Tigris and Euphrates, the diverse reed beds supported massive biodiversity in the form of huge numbers of birds and fish, a rare aquatic landscape in the middle of a desert.

Civilizations have risen and fallen on its banks, agriculture started, and the origins of the written word come from its midst. Covering some 20,000 square kilometers (7,700 square miles), the Mesopotamian Marshes, as they are also known, played a key role in the development of not only people and culture in the region but also wildlife, especially those migrating across Eurasia and into Africa, from flamingos to pelicans.

But in the 1990s, this little slice of life flourishing from the arid desert was devastated. The then President of Iraq, Saddam Hussein, decided to punish the Marsh Arabs who had lived in the wetlands for six millennia for rebelling during the Gulf War, by destroying the wetland on which their entire way of life depended. By building dams and dykes, Hussein succeeded in draining the marshland, and reduced it to just 10 percent of its original size.

However, since Hussein was deposed during the Iraq War, the future of the marshes has been looking up. When Iraqi-born engineer Azzam Alwash returned to the country, he made it his mission to try and restore the wetlands to their former glory. By removing the dams and dykes, destroying the canals and drainage systems, Alwash has spearheaded a move to re-flood the marshes, and has been doing a pretty good job of it. So far around 30 percent has been restored and hopefully, with this designation from Unesco, more will follow.
...

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

Globally Important Iraqi Marshes Designated As A World Heritage Site

www.iflscience.com

........
Many of us consider this the worse intentional example of environmental and ecological weapon of mass destruction. This affected bird and fish migrations and habitat beyond the borders of Iraq, spilling over into the whole Persian Gulf region.

Reason enough to resume where the 1st Gulf War cease-fire left off and get rid of Saddam and his regime.

In The Marshes Of Iraq - AramcoWorld

Amidst "the stillness of a world that never knew an engine... he found at last a life he longed to know and share.

www.aramcoworld.com

Theisinger not Terwilliger.

 

[surada]

I'm not Catholic.
And I never said it was real in the OP.

Why don't you get lost, you Devil Worshiper.

The stories are teaching narratives not history. Have you read about Brer Rabbit? The uncle Remus stories are "the truth", but they are fiction like Aesop's Fables.

 

[irosie91]

Was The Garden Of Eden A Real Place?​

Only for people like you - believing in kiddo books, fairy tales, ghosts and non scientific proven assumptions.
How a person living in the 21st century can - with all the science and archeological evidence available - keep his fantasy about Adam&Eve, alive, only proves his inability to think for himself.

IMLO (in my lauded opinion) the book called in english "GENESIS" is sublime. Geography is not the issue

 

[irosie91]

The stories are teaching narratives not history. Have you read about Brer Rabbit? The uncle Remus stories are "the truth", but they are fiction like Aesop's Fables.

a kinda childish juxtaposition. All scriptural writings are of very important
historical significance.