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If they can afford a car and a house, they can afford healthcare?
Anyone have an issue with this statement?
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The ER is just as busy now as it was before Obamacare.No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
I get it just fine.
No, you don't. Not to mention, then because you have ERs packed with people, guess what happens to the quality of care there? Not just for the people you think are leaches on society, but yes, you, the people that might have to go there even with insurance. And I'm sorry, but they aren't going to let people with insurance jump line.
Try again
Huh? You think laughing at people whose health care you take away makes you want to party?------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ the party starts as we laugh at YOU beggars RDean !!End Obamacare and at least 20 million Americans will be knocked off health care.
Children going to college working for degrees will no longer be able to use their parents insurance while they go.
People with pre existing conditions will suddenly lose their insurance. Say your kid has some illness, too bad.
Entrepreneurs who rely on health care will suddenly be uninsured.
Very expensive Emergency Room care becomes the primary health care of those millions.
What will that do to the economy?
How will Republicans celebrate after kicking millions of Americans off health care?
The ER is just as busy now as it was before Obamacare.No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
I get it just fine.
No, you don't. Not to mention, then because you have ERs packed with people, guess what happens to the quality of care there? Not just for the people you think are leaches on society, but yes, you, the people that might have to go there even with insurance. And I'm sorry, but they aren't going to let people with insurance jump line.
Try again
You don't get it...if they take away Obamacare anyone with insurance now but with a preexisting condition, regardless if you can afford the insurance, you're fucked. NO INSURANCE. Broken back? Fucked. MS? Fucked. You're kid has scoliosis? Fucked. Your kid needs to get asthma treatments? Fucked.
On and on and on,.
It seems like that's what they want.The ER is just as busy now as it was before Obamacare.No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
I get it just fine.
No, you don't. Not to mention, then because you have ERs packed with people, guess what happens to the quality of care there? Not just for the people you think are leaches on society, but yes, you, the people that might have to go there even with insurance. And I'm sorry, but they aren't going to let people with insurance jump line.
Try again
You don't get it...if they take away Obamacare anyone with insurance now but with a preexisting condition, regardless if you can afford the insurance, you're fucked. NO INSURANCE. Broken back? Fucked. MS? Fucked. You're kid has scoliosis? Fucked. Your kid needs to get asthma treatments? Fucked.
On and on and on,.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO , its a good realistic statement RDean !!If they can afford a car and a house, they can afford healthcare?
Anyone have an issue with this statement?
OK Nitwit. What's the difference between using the ER when you have health care and using the ER when you don't? Having healthcare doesn't mean you can't use the ER.The ER is just as busy now as it was before Obamacare.No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
I get it just fine.
No, you don't. Not to mention, then because you have ERs packed with people, guess what happens to the quality of care there? Not just for the people you think are leaches on society, but yes, you, the people that might have to go there even with insurance. And I'm sorry, but they aren't going to let people with insurance jump line.
Try again
because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER,No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
No one is that stupid. That's a joke, right? You were saying that as satire?
In 1986, Congress enacted the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay.
No it's not, it's fucking stupid. Because you have a house for your kids to safely live in and grow up in and a car to get to work doesn't mean you have a lot of money left over.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NO , its a good realistic statement RDean !!If they can afford a car and a house, they can afford healthcare?
Anyone have an issue with this statement?
It seems like that's what they want.The ER is just as busy now as it was before Obamacare.You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
I get it just fine.
No, you don't. Not to mention, then because you have ERs packed with people, guess what happens to the quality of care there? Not just for the people you think are leaches on society, but yes, you, the people that might have to go there even with insurance. And I'm sorry, but they aren't going to let people with insurance jump line.
Try again
You don't get it...if they take away Obamacare anyone with insurance now but with a preexisting condition, regardless if you can afford the insurance, you're fucked. NO INSURANCE. Broken back? Fucked. MS? Fucked. You're kid has scoliosis? Fucked. Your kid needs to get asthma treatments? Fucked.
On and on and on,.
How these right wingers argue when they just don't know anything is fucking outrageous. Do they think the ER would let people just go out into the street and die?because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER,No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
No one is that stupid. That's a joke, right? You were saying that as satire?
Uh it is a federal law that when someone goes to the ER the hospital has to treat them regardless if they have insurance or not.
In 1986, Congress enacted the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay.
Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Please tell me you already knew this?
Elderly have medicare. Kids have Schip.No... we aren't talking about illegals. And like was stated in the OP, if they drop the Obamacare, almost every American will be fucked hard. Because if the insurance companies can all of a sudden deny you for a pre-existing condition, there are millions of Americans that won't be eligible. Elderly, kids, you name it. And you know what else? The insurance companies could force you to get a physical, and then charge you an arm and a leg for your insurance, which might be higher than it is now. Man people are just not thinking straight about this. You can't just get rid of Obamacare... you have to have a system ready to replace it with.
Medicare pays only 80% or less. They still need Obamacare.Elderly have medicare. Kids have Schip.No... we aren't talking about illegals. And like was stated in the OP, if they drop the Obamacare, almost every American will be fucked hard. Because if the insurance companies can all of a sudden deny you for a pre-existing condition, there are millions of Americans that won't be eligible. Elderly, kids, you name it. And you know what else? The insurance companies could force you to get a physical, and then charge you an arm and a leg for your insurance, which might be higher than it is now. Man people are just not thinking straight about this. You can't just get rid of Obamacare... you have to have a system ready to replace it with.
So many insurance companies have pulled out that the existence of Obamacare is academic...
because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER,No one should survive at public expense. It's not your money.
Leave charity with charitable organizations.
You don't get it... if people don't have insurance anymore and have to go to the ER, they will just get a huge ER bill they can't pay. Which then means they get their credit ruined, which means then they can't buy cars and houses, which means it hurts the economy, which means health care cost go up, because health care is REQUIRED to treat people that go to the ER, and won't be getting paid for it... so that means if you do have insurance? Yeah it's going to go up regardless, along with the out of pocket costs.
No one is that stupid. That's a joke, right? You were saying that as satire?
Uh it is a federal law that when someone goes to the ER the hospital has to treat them regardless if they have insurance or not.
In 1986, Congress enacted the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay.
Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
Please tell me you already knew this?
Elderly have medicare. Kids have Schip.No... we aren't talking about illegals. And like was stated in the OP, if they drop the Obamacare, almost every American will be fucked hard. Because if the insurance companies can all of a sudden deny you for a pre-existing condition, there are millions of Americans that won't be eligible. Elderly, kids, you name it. And you know what else? The insurance companies could force you to get a physical, and then charge you an arm and a leg for your insurance, which might be higher than it is now. Man people are just not thinking straight about this. You can't just get rid of Obamacare... you have to have a system ready to replace it with.
So many insurance companies have pulled out that the existence of Obamacare is academic...