What Is Space Actually On?

[frigidweirdo]

What is Space actually Made On?
I do not mean the atoms, energy, mass, baryonic matter, planets, dust, moons, or plasma that make up the Universe?
I mean what is holding these physical structures of mass.
I am specifically talking about what the matter is in or on.
Like if you see a painting or drawing. You look at what the drawing is of.
But what is the ink or paint on? What is the canvas made of?
The question we need to ask ourselves is what are we as mass, such as the planets, and the vacuum of space on?
For instance we are 1 astronomical unit from the Sun.
We are 150 million kilometres from the Sun.
And some would say there is nothing between the Earth and the Sun. Just a near perfect vacuum, with virtually nothing between us.
But that is not what I am asking. I am asking what is holding that vacuum. On another level what is the vacuum of 150 million miles on.
You cannot have 150 million miles of nothing. I know you will say it is a vacuum. But what is that vacuum on.
I mean if you had a mile of space on Earth. Yes it might be containing matter, such as oxygen, rocks, oceans, clouds, humans, animals, and plants. But if you had a mile of outer space. There might be a near perfect vacuum. But it is still 1 mile of space. The same distance both times.
So the thing is. Surely the 1 mile of near perfect space and 1 mile of Earth, are the same distance. So what is holding that 1 miles of space whether it be a near perfect vacuum or as on Earth containing huge amounts of matter.
The actual structure that holds 1 mile of vacuum space and 1 mile of matter, must be the same thing,
So what is that is holding the 1 mile of space and 1 mile of Earth matter.
I know the Universe contains mass, energy, matter. But what is it on?
This is a vital philosophical and scientific question.
1 mile of mass and 1 mile of space vacuum, are both the same distance. What are they both on?
It is as if we are people painted on a canvas that tells a story or landscape. On one level you can as an art critic try to explain the story that the painting is telling. But to make that work of art you must know what we are made. Are we paint, or are we layers of different paint on a canvas? And what is that canvas made of? A canvas with no paint on it, is the same distance as a canvas with a beautiful landscape or mythical scene.
What is Space on?

Maybe nothing needs to hold this. This question is probably impossible to know as we can't see the "edge", if there is an edge, of the universe.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This should back up my claim.

https://www.newscientist.com/definition/complex-life-evolve/[/URL

Oh look, a link you didn't read. Did you think of a molecule to name?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Don't molecules change at the atomic level?

I am not sure what you mean.

 

[Woodznutz]

Oh look, a link you didn't read. Did you think of a molecule to name?

I read every ridiculous word.

You're majoring in the minors. Zoom back for a better look.

 

[Woodznutz]

I am not sure what you mean.

To make different tissues molecules have to change at the atomic level don't they? How do they do that?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I read every ridiculous word.

You're majoring in the minors. Zoom back for a better look.

Then summarize argument from it.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

To make different tissues molecules have to change at the atomic level don't they? How do they do that?

What kind of change at the atomic level?

 

[Woodznutz]

Then summarize argument from it.

You can't get here from there.

 

[Woodznutz]

What kind of change at the atomic level?

You're the one who believes it, you tell me.

 

[Woodznutz]

Then summarize argument from it.

This article says it all.

How did complex life evolve?

Our living planet, as Charles Darwin wrote in On the Origin of Species , is one of "endless forms most beautiful". But go back a couple of billion years and things would have looked very different. Despite the fact that Earth had been alive for the best part of 2 billion years, life remained...

www.newscientist.com

 

[scruffy]

What is Space actually Made On?
I do not mean the atoms, energy, mass, baryonic matter, planets, dust, moons, or plasma that make up the Universe?
I mean what is holding these physical structures of mass.
I am specifically talking about what the matter is in or on.
Like if you see a painting or drawing. You look at what the drawing is of.
But what is the ink or paint on? What is the canvas made of?
The question we need to ask ourselves is what are we as mass, such as the planets, and the vacuum of space on?
For instance we are 1 astronomical unit from the Sun.
We are 150 million kilometres from the Sun.
And some would say there is nothing between the Earth and the Sun. Just a near perfect vacuum, with virtually nothing between us.
But that is not what I am asking. I am asking what is holding that vacuum. On another level what is the vacuum of 150 million miles on.
You cannot have 150 million miles of nothing. I know you will say it is a vacuum. But what is that vacuum on.
I mean if you had a mile of space on Earth. Yes it might be containing matter, such as oxygen, rocks, oceans, clouds, humans, animals, and plants. But if you had a mile of outer space. There might be a near perfect vacuum. But it is still 1 mile of space. The same distance both times.
So the thing is. Surely the 1 mile of near perfect space and 1 mile of Earth, are the same distance. So what is holding that 1 miles of space whether it be a near perfect vacuum or as on Earth containing huge amounts of matter.
The actual structure that holds 1 mile of vacuum space and 1 mile of matter, must be the same thing,
So what is that is holding the 1 mile of space and 1 mile of Earth matter.
I know the Universe contains mass, energy, matter. But what is it on?
This is a vital philosophical and scientific question.
1 mile of mass and 1 mile of space vacuum, are both the same distance. What are they both on?
It is as if we are people painted on a canvas that tells a story or landscape. On one level you can as an art critic try to explain the story that the painting is telling. But to make that work of art you must know what we are made. Are we paint, or are we layers of different paint on a canvas? And what is that canvas made of? A canvas with no paint on it, is the same distance as a canvas with a beautiful landscape or mythical scene.
What is Space on?

Sigh.

You need an introduction to quantum electrodynamics.

The short answer is, there's no such thing as "nothing".

What you call "vacuum", isn't. It's not empty, it's full of "stuff".

Recommend you check out Emmy Noether. For every conservation law, there is a corresponding symmetry. You never get one without the other.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You can't get here from there.

That isn't an argument. That's an unevidenced and unargued claim that you are tasked with arguing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're the one who believes it, you tell me.

No, this won't work for you. We are clarifying YOUR claim.

Change at the atomic level, how?

Yes, all the necessary material to form all of the molecules on earth today was present billions of years ago.

 

[scruffy]

Bonding is an example of change at the atomic level.

For example - most proteins can fold in more than one way, but there is usually a preferred configuration (which often but not always corresponds with the lowest energy state).

The act of "bending" a protein (changing it from one shape to another) is physical, it involves structural changes at the atomic level, including but not limited to stresses and torques and movements of electrons from one orbital to another.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Bonding is an example of change at the atomic level.

For example - most proteins can fold in more than one way, but there is usually a preferred configuration (which often but not always corresponds with the lowest energy state).

The act of "bending" a protein (changing it from one shape to another) is physical, it involves structural changes at the atomic level, including but not limited to stresses and torques and movements of electrons from one orbital to another.

Neat stuff.

So Woodznutz , is this the impossible thing you said couldn't happen?

 

[Woodznutz]

Neat stuff.

So Woodznutz , is this the impossible thing you said couldn't happen?

How does it happen in regard to evolution?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How does it happen in regard to evolution?

What a bizarre question. The rules of physics are not different for evolution.

 

[Woodznutz]

What a bizarre question. The rules of physics are not different for evolution.

A protein twisting itself into different shapes isn't the subject.

How does the protein know how to build a specialized tissue?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A protein twisting itself into different shapes isn't the subject.

Don't tell me what the subject isn't. Tell me what it IS, after 4 requests to do so.

How does the protein know how to build a specialized tissue?

It doesn't. What a bizarre question. Proteins dont think. Several proteins simply follow the laws of physics and do what they do. They produce tissue when present in a certain kind and proportion.

Are you just going to ask basic biology and genetics questions? Then save your time. This isn't 11th grade biology, and I am not a teacher. Read a book.

 

[Woodznutz]

It doesn't. What a bizarre question. Proteins dont think. Several proteins simply follow the laws of physics and do what they do. They produce tissue when present in a certain kind and proportion.

So, it's magic, just like creationism.