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That doesn't follow from anything I said. That's just your latest, unevidenced, unargued claim. As you have apparently abandoned your others, since they fell apart.So, it's magic, just like creationism.
And you understand this, from scruffy?That doesn't follow from anything I said. That's just your latest, unevidenced, unargued claim. As you have apparently abandoned your others, since they fell apart.
But I think we can safely say that you ascribe to magic the things you don't understand. It's not my job to correct that perennial error, on your part.
What about it, you're not making any points. All you have done here is show why what you are saying is false. You just described how the materials can be formed.And you understand this, from scruffy?
"Bonding is an example of change at the atomic level.
For example - most proteins can fold in more than one way, but there is usually a preferred configuration (which often but not always corresponds with the lowest energy state).
The act of "bending" a protein (changing it from one shape to another) is physical, it involves structural changes at the atomic level, including but not limited to stresses and torques and movements of electrons from one orbital to another."
I reposted what scruffy said so you can explain just how it works.What about it, you're not making any points. All you have done here is show why what you are saying is false. You just described how the materials can be formed.
Whoops. Back to the drawing board...
So how does that relate to evolution?Woodznutz
It sounds like you could benefit from some combinatorics.
In biology, one must ask the very simple and basic questions. Why are there 4 bases and not 6 or 8, or 2? What benefit do 24 amino acids confer, that 12 couldn't?
The unsurprising answer is that 4 bases are the same as 4-d math in computer graphics - they "cover" the entire range of three dimensional shapes. In other words, give or take a few outliers, you can build any desired molecular (protein) "shape" using only the codons from DNA.
For example - an ion channel has structural requirements, in addition to its electrical properties (which btw are impressive on their own, the electrical gradient across a nerve cell membrane is around 100 million volts/meter). In an open state, the channel has to be big enough to let the ion through - so we commonly see proteins consisting of multiple subunits that are "pushed apart" by the ion, under the appropriate electrical conditions. These protein subunits are "globular", they're big round things that float around in the membrane - the only thing that distinguishes them is they "recognize each other", they have specific amino acid sequences that cause them to bind to themselves, which is how the subunits stay together to form an entire channel. Other than the shape of the inside of the channel, the rest of the shape of the subunits doesn't matter much, and you see this reflected medically, in terms of which mutations are deadly.
What is interesting is, you can look across the basic biochemical pathways, they are highly conserved in most or all species. Apparently, out of all the possible combinations, there are only a very few that work. And, it turns out, most of the conservation occurs around energy conversion and energy transmission. Which makes sense because the molecular shapes have to be under software control, so to speak. To be controllable they have to conform to the API of the energy delivery platform. This is why the "phosphate economy" is ubiquitous in all living organisms, and many if not most structural changes are somehow under phosphate control and influence.
Why would I want or need to do that?I reposted what scruffy said so you can explain just how it works.
Well, DNA formed via a type of evolutionary process. It formed via selection, over time. It is also at the core of evolution, as DNA codes the changes over time. If changes did not pass to future generations via DNA, there would be no evolution. And most of biology would become nonsensical. Your kids' appearances would be random, for example.So how does that relate to evolution?
The whole argument centers around it.Why would I want or need to do that?
How does it do that, step by step?Because DNA formed via a type of evolutionary process. It formed via selection, over time.
What argument? You are the one who needs to make an argument. Everyone else is perfectly content with evolution being a demonstrated fact.The whole argument centers around it.
Do what? Form over time via selection? That explains itself.How does it do that?
In biology, one must ask the very simple and basic questions. Why are there 4 bases and not 6 or 8, or 2? What benefit do 24 amino acids confer, that 12 couldn't?
I'm not convinced. I need it to be demonstrated better.What argument? You are the one who needs to make an argument. Everyone else is perfectly content with evolution being a demonstrated fact.
Need... what to be demonstrated better? Specifically?I'm not convinced. I need it to be demonstrated better.
I'm not convinced. I need it to be demonstrated better.
See my new thread titled, "Evolution Question".
It's a charade. Same, cheap con the god-gappers ALWAYS run.Then go look ... read some books ... take a chemistry class or three ... grow a garden ... when you figure out the chiral question, you'll get a Nobel Prize ... sheesh ...
If you can't deal with unanswered questions ... then stay away from science ... even if we did answer, there'll be ten more questions asked ... every time ... where would we be today if no one asked Johann Kepler "why" the Sun is the center of the known universe ...
It's a charade. Same, cheap con the god-gappers ALWAYS run.
