What should the wealthy do? Libs How should they be sharing there wealth?

[bripat9643]

Well the rich suck a lot more than the poor. Everyone benefits a lot from being a citizen of the greatest country on the planet. If they are going to take the benefits they also must give. Just taking well I guess that is like stealing.

The top 20% of income earners pay over 80% of income taxes.
By contrast the bottom 42% pay no income tax.
Who isn't pay their fair share again?

Well of course they are. Who has more to lose? Think of it as insurance. Should the guy with the $1,000 car pay as much as the guy with the $100,000 car? Of course not. So the very rich have a lot more to insure. Suppose some country comes and takes us over, who has more to lose? The rich might very well lose everything, while the very poor might not be much more worse off.

So in other words, it's extortion. All you're saying is they better pay or louts like you will take it from them. That's the ethical code of a criminal.

 

[The Rabbi]

They have been looting the country for a long time, so why not?

Horseshit. Ticks like you have been doing all the looting.

So your solution is looting the wealthy? Is that what you're admitting?

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

Do you think this will produce more or less revenue to the government?

Yes it's a trick question.

 

[bripat9643]

They have been looting the country for a long time, so why not?

Horseshit. Ticks like you have been doing all the looting.

So your solution is looting the wealthy? Is that what you're admitting?

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

 

[Brain357]

The top 20% of income earners pay over 80% of income taxes.
By contrast the bottom 42% pay no income tax.
Who isn't pay their fair share again?

Well of course they are. Who has more to lose? Think of it as insurance. Should the guy with the $1,000 car pay as much as the guy with the $100,000 car? Of course not. So the very rich have a lot more to insure. Suppose some country comes and takes us over, who has more to lose? The rich might very well lose everything, while the very poor might not be much more worse off.

That's a bizarre way to look at it. But let's go with that.
So the bottom 42% of wage earners have nothing to lose if this country gets taken over? Rly?

I said the very poor. The very poor have much less to lose than the very rich. Some governments have taken everything from people. If you have nothing to take you lose very little. If you have a lot to take then you lose a lot.

 

[Brain357]

The top 20% of income earners pay over 80% of income taxes.
By contrast the bottom 42% pay no income tax.
Who isn't pay their fair share again?

Well of course they are. Who has more to lose? Think of it as insurance. Should the guy with the $1,000 car pay as much as the guy with the $100,000 car? Of course not. So the very rich have a lot more to insure. Suppose some country comes and takes us over, who has more to lose? The rich might very well lose everything, while the very poor might not be much more worse off.

So in other words, it's extortion. All you're saying is they better pay or louts like you will take it from them. That's the ethical code of a criminal.

Insurance is criminal?

 

[Brain357]

Horseshit. Ticks like you have been doing all the looting.

So your solution is looting the wealthy? Is that what you're admitting?

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

The ones that allow the very rich to pay a lower % in taxes than me.

 

[The Rabbi]

Well of course they are. Who has more to lose? Think of it as insurance. Should the guy with the $1,000 car pay as much as the guy with the $100,000 car? Of course not. So the very rich have a lot more to insure. Suppose some country comes and takes us over, who has more to lose? The rich might very well lose everything, while the very poor might not be much more worse off.

That's a bizarre way to look at it. But let's go with that.
So the bottom 42% of wage earners have nothing to lose if this country gets taken over? Rly?

I said the very poor. The very poor have much less to lose than the very rich. Some governments have taken everything from people. If you have nothing to take you lose very little. If you have a lot to take then you lose a lot.

So you support higher taxes on most working people who are not currently paying income taxes. Good to know.
But even the very poor have something to lose, as you admit. So even they should pay something to the Federal government. Instead they are taking far more than they pay.

You've just defeated your own argument. Thanks!

 

[bripat9643]

Well of course they are. Who has more to lose? Think of it as insurance. Should the guy with the $1,000 car pay as much as the guy with the $100,000 car? Of course not. So the very rich have a lot more to insure. Suppose some country comes and takes us over, who has more to lose? The rich might very well lose everything, while the very poor might not be much more worse off.

So in other words, it's extortion. All you're saying is they better pay or louts like you will take it from them. That's the ethical code of a criminal.

Insurance is criminal?

It ain't insurance. In the first place, the insurance company doesn't force you to buy their product. In the second place, the rich pay far more in taxes than the cost of protecting their persons and property. If the insurance on the $100,000 was 10 times more than the actual cost of insuring the car, that would be the equivalent of our tax system, and that can only occur if such a "service" is forced on people at gunpoint. That makes it extortion.

 

[The Rabbi]

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

The ones that allow the very rich to pay a lower % in taxes than me.

there are no loopholes that allow that. You've been misinformed.

 

[Brain357]

Horseshit. Ticks like you have been doing all the looting.

So your solution is looting the wealthy? Is that what you're admitting?

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

And why wouldn't some of it belong to the government? Aren't the very rich benefitting from a very stable country? Police take care of the crime. The military takes care of outside invaders. These things aren't free.

 

[bripat9643]

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

The ones that allow the very rich to pay a lower % in taxes than me.

ROFL! But you can't name any?

 

[The Rabbi]

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

And why wouldn't some of it belong to the government? Aren't the very rich benefitting from a very stable country? Police take care of the crime. The military takes care of outside invaders. These things aren't free.

Because they didnt earn it? Just a guess here.

 

[francoHFW]

Then we can bring taxes and fees that are killing the nonrich BACK DOWN.

 

[Brain357]

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

The ones that allow the very rich to pay a lower % in taxes than me.

there are no loopholes that allow that. You've been misinformed.

Buffet disagrees with you.
Buffett says he's still paying lower tax rate than his secretary - Mar. 4, 2013

 

[bripat9643]

If by looting you mean closing tax loop holes and not allowing them to hide money over seas then yes.

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

And why wouldn't some of it belong to the government? Aren't the very rich benefitting from a very stable country? Police take care of the crime. The military takes care of outside invaders. These things aren't free.

SO that would justify paying for the cost of the military and the police. That's about 20% of what we currently pay in taxes, and that's if the rich paid for all of it. The poor also benefit from a "stable country." Shouldn't they pay some?

When you pay for the services of a security company, you pay only for the cost of the service rendered. You don't pay based on how much stuff you own or how much you earn. Payment based on how much you own shows all the signs of an extortion racket, which is exactly what our government is.

 

[Brain357]

What "loopholes" are you referring to? Why shouldn't an American be able to do whatever he wants with his money? Who's money is it? It certainly doesn't belong to the government, although turds like you behave as if it does.

And why wouldn't some of it belong to the government? Aren't the very rich benefitting from a very stable country? Police take care of the crime. The military takes care of outside invaders. These things aren't free.

Because they didnt earn it? Just a guess here.

A lot of people in the military might be offended by that.

 

[The Rabbi]

The ones that allow the very rich to pay a lower % in taxes than me.

there are no loopholes that allow that. You've been misinformed.

Buffet disagrees with you.
Buffett says he's still paying lower tax rate than his secretary - Mar. 4, 2013

That was already disproven. And Buffet is a notorious lib-turd.

So there are no such loopholes. Especially now after the massive Obama tax increase.

 

[bripat9643]

The ones that allow the very rich to pay a lower % in taxes than me.

there are no loopholes that allow that. You've been misinformed.

Buffet disagrees with you.
Buffett says he's still paying lower tax rate than his secretary - Mar. 4, 2013

But you still can't name any of these so-called "loopholes?"

 

[The Rabbi]

And why wouldn't some of it belong to the government? Aren't the very rich benefitting from a very stable country? Police take care of the crime. The military takes care of outside invaders. These things aren't free.

Because they didnt earn it? Just a guess here.

A lot of people in the military might be offended by that.

A lot of people in drag shows are offended by you.

Do you even know what the fuck you're talking about anymore? You've already shown yoursellf to be totally incoherent and unable to put up any arguments.

 

[bripat9643]

And why wouldn't some of it belong to the government? Aren't the very rich benefitting from a very stable country? Police take care of the crime. The military takes care of outside invaders. These things aren't free.

Because they didnt earn it? Just a guess here.

A lot of people in the military might be offended by that.

They would be offended if someone told them they didn't earn the money someone else earned?