When businesses fail, is that proof capitalism is a failure?

[Billy000]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

 

[Correll]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

Depends whether the specific failure in question is a result of some specific limited fault or indicative of something systemic.


Obviously.


Got an example?

 

[Pete7469]

When liberal pieces of shit are born in spite of natural selection, does that prove Roe Vs. Wade was a failure?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

You are a moron.

Your title and your example are nothing alike.

 

[Rambunctious]

There are no guarantees in a capitalistic system...that is the beauty of it...the guarantors ie government are suppose to stay out of it so it can work...too big to fail is an abortion of capitalism...
But even with all of the government meddling from the likes of Obama and Pelosi our capitalistic system powers on...
No other nation has our system in place and that is why America has dominated the world in agriculture... science ...and medicine...
The thought of your business venture failing will make you work harder...
That's the beauty of capitalism's lack of guarantees...

 

[blackhawk]

No it's proof the people in charge did a shitty job be it in business or government the difference is in business you tend to get held accountable for it in government you tend not to.

 

[fncceo]

Business failure is Capitalism's mechanism for keeping bad business ideas from destroying good ones.

When government programs fail, a never-ending supply of taxpayer money will be used to keep them going.

The same thing happens in the business world when a company becomes politically connected enough to be deemed 'too big to fail'.

 

[JBond]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

It's pretty clear liberal gun free zones are a failure.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Too many factors to consider in your example so it's conjecture at this point. If I were to accept your general suggestion, it still would come down a straightforward axiom: "my capital vs yours".

Capitalist take the risk with their capital, they enjoy the success or failure of reaping the reward or loss of that capital. This is the foundation for inefficient government, I simply won't treat your money with the same respect as I will mine.

So to me, "failure" means, "can it be done better or more efficiently but isn't?" There is also the other consideration that it's simply not fair for you to fund my wild pursuits, unless there is a clear benefit to society. Inherently, government is inefficient, as noted above (see massive grants to failed Green energies).

Unfortunately, far too often the benefit is primarily that of the government patsy spender and their nepotistic benefactors. Government clearly has a role of course, and one can't assume perfect free market principles across all government functions. There are times when the shared collective needs and a desire for the "best mousetrap" is needed. In such pursuits, such as the military, it will demand an inflated price to the taxpayer.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

Most of the times when conservatives say that "federal government is failure" (or government in general) it is when the government is doing something it shouldn't be doing.

The government was never designed to run a retirement account or (in my state) run monopoly on liquor stores.

Our government was designed to do very few things and because of that does very few things well.

 

[Dale Smith]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

Due to the fiat currency system we are debt slaves to, bankruptcy and foreclosures are built right into the system. The very ones that run the monetary system also run (AND owns) this corporate entity that you lovingly refer to as "gubermint". This parasitic entity isn't anything like what our founding fathers envisioned and it isn't "for the people or by the people.

Oh, and it's an epic failure of monumental proportions.

 

[bripat9643]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

When private corporations scew up too much, they go bankrupt. They disappear. What happens when government agencies scew up too much? They get more funding.

That's the difference retards like you don't seem to understand.

 

[martybegan]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

We haven't given individual businesses the franchise to use force, or arrest people, or settle disputes for us.

The equivalent would be an entire sector of private industry or services fucking up.

We saw what could happen in 2008 when the investment banks almost took down the finance sector.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

Capitalism and government are both structures. When a business fails, we don't blame capitalism no more than we blame all of government when a government sector fails. We blame the sector of government that failed us.

The recent school shooting is a perfect example. We don't blame all of the FBI for their failures in Florida. We don't blame all of our protective forces because one coward stood outside and did nothing to save those children. We don't even blame all Sheriff departments. We don't blame the structure. We place the blame at the head of the Sheriffs department and expect him to answer for the actions of his subordinates.

 

[tyroneweaver]

 

[bripat9643]

Obviously the answer is no, but Repubs use this dumb logic when it comes to the government. If some kind of government dysfunction occurs, they pretend that means the federal government is failure when it Obviously isn’t.

Capitalism and government are both structures. When a business fails, we don't blame capitalism no more than we blame all of government when a government sector fails. We blame the sector of government that failed us.

The recent school shooting is a perfect example. We don't blame all of the FBI for their failures in Florida. We don't blame all of our protective forces because one coward stood outside and did nothing to save those children. We don't even blame all Sheriff departments. We don't blame the structure. We place the blame at the head of the Sheriffs department and expect him to answer for the actions of his subordinates.

I hate to disagree with you, but yes we do blame all of government when a government sector fails, just as we blame Voo Doo if the patient dies. Government is inherently bad at managing anything. We only put up with it in certain cases because there doesn't appear to be an alternative.