" when gerrymandering is based “purely on partisanship rather than on race”

[Wry Catcher]

, it does not offend the Constitution.

 

[Defiant1]

, it does not offend the Constitution.

The way it was intended.

 

[bendog]

Well, what if one party is 90% white, and congressional lines drawn to elect only white pols?
Democrats Racially Diverse; Republicans Mostly White

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems invented Gerrymandering but now that they're a permanent minority it's a bad thing

 

[Programmer]

There's a connection between race and partisanship when drawing these lines around our cities. Considering racial demographics proves to be more accurate than home values, etc.

 

[tinydancer]

I've always loved this district for Luis. D of course.Illinois 4.

Illinois's 4th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[DGS49]

The "Constitutional" arguments against Gerrymandering are very tenuous but can succeed due to compromised judges. No one's right to vote is impacted in the least, and the strategies are not always successful.

As Our Beloved President has often pointed out, "elections [results] have consequences." If the electorate elects a majority of one party in the legislature, that majority provides the opportunity to do all sorts of things, limited only by the constitution and the creativity of the majority.

 

[Arianrhod]

A document cannot be "offended." I think the word you were looking for was "violated" (which, arguably, can be construed as equally inapt, except for its acceptance in common parlance).

How many Constitutional scholars frequent this board?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Dems invented Gerrymandering but now that they're a permanent minority it's a bad thing

A document cannot be "offended." I think the word you were looking for was "violated" (which, arguably, can be construed as equally inapt, except for its acceptance in common parlance).

How many Constitutional scholars frequent this board?

It wasn't my word. It is from a comment made by one of the members of the US Supreme Court, inconsistent with his or her comment from the bench during a case last year.

 

[OKTexas]

The "Constitutional" arguments against Gerrymandering are very tenuous but can succeed due to compromised judges. No one's right to vote is impacted in the least, and the strategies are not always successful.

As Our Beloved President has often pointed out, "elections [results] have consequences." If the electorate elects a majority of one party in the legislature, that majority provides the opportunity to do all sorts of things, limited only by the constitution and the creativity of the majority.

If only that were true, the courts have insinuated themselves into every facet of politics, especially redistricting. In my opinion all districts should be a square as possible, only taking into account the eligible voter population within the area.

 

[bendog]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

 

[martybegan]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

Considering the most likely races to benefit from gerrymandering are blacks and Hispanics, and that a large majority of blacks and many Hispanics trend democratic, you really can't separate political reasons for said gerrymandering.

 

[bendog]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

Considering the most likely races to benefit from gerrymandering are blacks and Hispanics, and that a large majority of blacks and many Hispanics trend democratic, you really can't separate political reasons for said gerrymandering.

bullshit marty

All About Redistricting -- Where the lines are drawn

How the GOP Is Resegregating the South

 

[konradv]

Dems invented Gerrymandering but now that they're a permanent minority it's a bad thing

Another 'History' post in 'Politics'!

 

[bendog]

Dems invented Gerrymandering but now that they're a permanent minority it's a bad thing

Another 'History' post in 'Politics'!

It's wrong when either party does it, but it is coming around to bite the gop's ass. And the likely result will be single payer ingrained in our society.

 

[martybegan]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

Considering the most likely races to benefit from gerrymandering are blacks and Hispanics, and that a large majority of blacks and many Hispanics trend democratic, you really can't separate political reasons for said gerrymandering.

bullshit marty

All About Redistricting -- Where the lines are drawn

How the GOP Is Resegregating the South

So most black/hispanic districts DON'T vote democrat?

 

[bendog]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

Considering the most likely races to benefit from gerrymandering are blacks and Hispanics, and that a large majority of blacks and many Hispanics trend democratic, you really can't separate political reasons for said gerrymandering.

bullshit marty

All About Redistricting -- Where the lines are drawn

How the GOP Is Resegregating the South

So most black/hispanic districts DON'T vote democrat?

Are you intentionally being obtuse an unable to follow links? (ask a stupid question, expect one in return.)

 

[Wry Catcher]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

Considering the most likely races to benefit from gerrymandering are blacks and Hispanics, and that a large majority of blacks and many Hispanics trend democratic, you really can't separate political reasons for said gerrymandering.

Your premise is false. Since gerrymandering has been in place since 1812, what evidence do you have to demonstrate "blacks and Hispanics" have benefited?

 

[Nyvin]

I've always loved this district for Luis. D of course.Illinois 4.

Illinois's 4th congressional district - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's a hispanic majority district mandated by section 2 of the VRA. The inner part of it is an African American Majority district. It provides no partisan advantage to the Democrats.

 

[Nyvin]

there's no argument from me that racial gerrymandering is legal according to the current Scotus. But to deny the gop does it, is simply a lie.

Considering the most likely races to benefit from gerrymandering are blacks and Hispanics, and that a large majority of blacks and many Hispanics trend democratic, you really can't separate political reasons for said gerrymandering.

That's blatantly false. You can draw any map to favor any race or any group of people.