Where all the screw-ups and wannabes go to die

[Luddly Neddite]

Howard Kurtz Joining Fox News, Leaving CNN

The move, which surprised most media watchers, is the culmination of a rapid transformation in Kurtz's career over the past few months. He was previously the Washington bureau chief for Newsweek and The Daily Beast, and had "Reliable Sources" for years on CNN. But then The Daily Beast fired him after last month after a hugely embarrassing editorial error and concerns over the amount of time he was spending on an outside venture, Daily Download.

He was then forced to publicly apologize for his errors and to endure a lengthy grilling on his own CNN show. Fox News, it seems, will be a more welcoming environment.

That's one way to put it.

"daily download" - sounds like something that needs flushing.

 

[NLT]

Sounds like he is moving to a channel that has veiwers that watch it. need a tissue?

 

[tjvh]

Sounds like he is moving to a channel that has veiwers that watch it. need a tissue?

Yup, last time I checked Fox's ratings were a lot better than CNN's. Poor duddly, he just can't let his hatred of truth go.

 

[whitehall]

There is just no pleasing the left. When Fox hires independent journalists the radicals whine that they are has-beens. Fox hired left winger Juan Williams after he was fired by NPR for being too moderate and the left whines about that. How many conservatives work for ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CBS, CNN, NPR and Soros propaganda networks? None?

 

[Mad Scientist]

When a Pro Sports player has an opportunity to go from a losing team to a winning team most people are happy for him/her.

Why not the same with "News" people too?

Why you no like Howard Kurtz?

If Fox or CNN or MSNBC offered me a lot of money I'd be there too, and so would you!

 

[Pogo]

Sounds like he is moving to a channel that has veiwers that watch it. need a tissue?

Yup, last time I checked Fox's ratings were a lot better than CNN's. Poor duddly, he just can't let his hatred of truth go.

Ratings have nothing to do with "truth". Generally they work against each other. In fact almost always.

 

[whitehall]

The question is why the left never stops whining about Fox when they have ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, the Comedy Channel and some tax exempt organizations dedicated to spying on Fox and monitoring (only) conservative speech.

 

[Wake]

What is there to seriously discuss? Howard Kurtz moved to FOX News. Good for him.

 

[Political Junky]

Sounds like he is moving to a channel that has veiwers that watch it. need a tissue?

Cheap food sells better that the good stuff, too.

 

[blastoff]

Howie's just the latest and there will likely be a few more CNN personalities in the street before the new guy gets done tweaking programming and personnel.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Howard Kurtz Joining Fox News, Leaving CNN

The move, which surprised most media watchers, is the culmination of a rapid transformation in Kurtz's career over the past few months. He was previously the Washington bureau chief for Newsweek and The Daily Beast, and had "Reliable Sources" for years on CNN. But then The Daily Beast fired him after last month after a hugely embarrassing editorial error and concerns over the amount of time he was spending on an outside venture, Daily Download.

He was then forced to publicly apologize for his errors and to endure a lengthy grilling on his own CNN show. Fox News, it seems, will be a more welcoming environment.

That's one way to put it.

"daily download" - sounds like something that needs flushing.

Fox News has four times the viewership of CNN.

Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

Find a hobby to fill your day, you pathetic troll.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Ratings have nothing to do with "truth". Generally they work against each other. In fact almost always.

Where is your evidence of that?

 

[Pogo]

Howard Kurtz Joining Fox News, Leaving CNN

The move, which surprised most media watchers, is the culmination of a rapid transformation in Kurtz's career over the past few months. He was previously the Washington bureau chief for Newsweek and The Daily Beast, and had "Reliable Sources" for years on CNN. But then The Daily Beast fired him after last month after a hugely embarrassing editorial error and concerns over the amount of time he was spending on an outside venture, Daily Download.

He was then forced to publicly apologize for his errors and to endure a lengthy grilling on his own CNN show. Fox News, it seems, will be a more welcoming environment.

That's one way to put it.

"daily download" - sounds like something that needs flushing.

Fox News has four times the viewership of CNN.

Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - Ratings | TVbytheNumbers

Find a hobby to fill your day, you pathetic troll.

-- just as "WWE Raw" has nearly twice the ratings of "Meet the Press".

 

[rdean]

Sounds like he is moving to a channel that has veiwers that watch it. need a tissue?

Arab Muslims pay more.

 

[Pogo]

Ratings have nothing to do with "truth". Generally they work against each other. In fact almost always.

Where is your evidence of that?

You want me to go through this AGAIN?

Ratings measure attention. That's it. They're used to determine how much a broadcaster can charge for advertising, based on how many eyeballs (or ears in radio) that broadcaster can deliver.

They have nothing to do with "truth" or "assent" or anything else of an analytic nature, especially television, which is a two-dimensional propaganda machine that has one practical purpose-- to sell advertising.

That attention is not drawn by truth or objectivity or cerebral analysis. Those shows tank. Attention is drawn by fake wrestling, paternity tests and people stranded on an island forced to eat bugs. Viewers are drawn by scandal, drama, angst, fear and loathing. Accidents and fires and tornadoes. That's where "if it bleeds it leads" comes from -- it draws viewers. That's why your local Fraction News leads off not with what happened in your city council but some fire or flood or shooting in some neighborhood you never heard of. The same reason people rubberneck at a bad car wreck -- not because they 'agree' with the idea of car wrecks; because it's spectacle. It's drama.

Objective news, where it exists, never makes money. News is not a profit source. All those alphabet network news shows we grew up with were being subsidized by the Beverly Hillbillies and Dick van Dyke shows, which DO make money. News is expensive. A lot of traveling, a lot of staff and stringers, a lot of equipment flying around, news bureaus all over the world -- costs high, return minimal.

When Fox bubbled up it took a new approach to cut costs: rather than deal with all that expense, plunk some talking heads in a studio talking about the news, rather than reporting it from afar. And given Murdoch's legacy in tabloid newspapers where he made his fortune, make it a gossip show about politicians rather than about policy. Then dress up that studio with garish colors and graphics that go whooooosh and suggestive screen chyrons, and plunk some angry white guys down to piss and moan all night in commentary programs -- which is where the Fox ratings are-- and there you have your viewers. Because you have brought in angst and suspicion and conspiracy -- the fear and loathing. The Emotion. The spectacle.

Oh and the short-skirted bimbos, they don't hurt either.

There's no emotion in real news (or in naked truth). "Storm headed for Iowa" = boring. "Storm heads to Iowa where it will kill innocent bystanders, maybe you" = viewers. Making the impersonal personal. What Fox broadcasts is not on the whole news, but news theater, dripping with emotion. And news theater will always outsell straight news. But in the process of all that angstmongering, truth is the first casualty. Straight truth is ... boring. "Boring" as far as "doesn't draw a crowd". When you're in the commercial broadcast business, you need to draw a crowd. That's why a more cerebral program like Bill Buckley's had to use PBS; it wouldn't sell enough soap.

So that's what I mean by that.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Howard Kurtz & Fox News: A true love story - Salon.com

Fox News and Howard Kurtz may be a good match not only because the conservative news network has become a stable for journalists who have fallen on hard times, but because the former Daily Beast Washington bureau chief has long been more generous to the network than many of his fellow media critics.

"... a stable for journalists who have fallen on hard times ..."

That's a kind way of saying "failures".

 

[Caroljo]

Sounds like he is moving to a channel that has veiwers that watch it. need a tissue?

Cheap food sells better that the good stuff, too.

It sure does.....but the good stuff is most likely better for you

 

[Caroljo]

Howard Kurtz & Fox News: A true love story - Salon.com

Fox News and Howard Kurtz may be a good match not only because the conservative news network has become a stable for journalists who have fallen on hard times, but because the former Daily Beast Washington bureau chief has long been more generous to the network than many of his fellow media critics.

"... a stable for journalists who have fallen on hard times ..."

That's a kind way of saying "failures".

Because Salon says so? Sounds like their opinion to me....we all know it's not true.

 

[tinydancer]

Calling journalists "failures" for joining Fox?

On Thursday, June 20, Fox's total audience was greater than CNN, MSNBC, and HLN combined in every measurement:

Total Day, Primetime, and every individual 4 p.m. to midnight prime-time slot. As seen above, it had almost 60 percent of the prime-time cable news audience.



Howler of the Day at Salon: Fox News 'Has Become a Stable for Journalists Who Have Fallen on Hard Times' | NewsBusters

 

[Katzndogz]

Liberal media has to come up with some cover story to explain away all the defections.