Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

[Sallow]

After their president chairman Bush?

USATODAY.com - NAACP in hot water over speech

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service is reviewing the tax-exempt status of the nation's oldest civil rights organization, saying criticism of President Bush at the NAACP's national convention in July may have violated rules against partisan activity.


NAACP Chairman Julian Bond says about the IRS probe: "We intend to fight this with every resource we have."
By Henry Koshollek, The Capital Times file

In a letter dated Oct. 8, the IRS said it had "received information" that NAACP Chairman Julian Bond "condemned the administration policies of George W. Bush on education, the economy and the war in Iraq" in a July 11 speech.

Feel free.

I am sure the conservatives were in an uproar about that!

Right?

1 - This wasn't the IRS denying C-3 status. The NAACP already had it.

2 - This wasn't the IRS denying c-3 status to multiple groups because of word in their name or their political ideology. This was the IRS investigating one group.

3 - This wasn't the IRS lying to lawyers and the Congress claiming it wasn't happening when it was.

4 - If you want to claim that the NAACP has not skirted the edges of the law, if not actually breaking it, that is fine. I will disagree and the IRS has had plenty of reasons to investigate them to see if they were breaking the law.

I find it amusing that you had to got back 9 years to find even a single Liberal group being investigated by the IRS. We can show many more than that just last year that were Conservatives being investigated.

They didn't only investigate "one group", they went after a plethora of entities speaking out against Bush policies at the time.

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[Skull Pilot]

Yeah where was the Media?

Obviously that audit was unremarkable as many tax exempt entities are similarly audited so no flags were raised. That these so called conservative tax exempt groups were subject to a pattern is the issue.

Another lame attempt at playing the race card.

 

[Sallow]

After their president chairman Bush?

USATODAY.com - NAACP in hot water over speech

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service is reviewing the tax-exempt status of the nation's oldest civil rights organization, saying criticism of President Bush at the NAACP's national convention in July may have violated rules against partisan activity.


NAACP Chairman Julian Bond says about the IRS probe: "We intend to fight this with every resource we have."
By Henry Koshollek, The Capital Times file

In a letter dated Oct. 8, the IRS said it had "received information" that NAACP Chairman Julian Bond "condemned the administration policies of George W. Bush on education, the economy and the war in Iraq" in a July 11 speech.

Feel free.

I am sure the conservatives were in an uproar about that!

Right?

dear gawd sallow, you too
can't you go back to Reagan and ask people where they were just to DEFEND this administration?

What's happening here is a lot of shit is being flung around and you guys are waiting for something to stick.

As it happens, this is nothing new. The commissioner of the IRS Doug Shulman was a Bush appointee. And the Tea Party are saying that this started last year.

Well..

 

[Sallow]

Yeah where was the Media?

Obviously that audit was unremarkable as many tax exempt entities are similarly audited so no flags were raised. That these so called conservative tax exempt groups were subject to a pattern is the issue.

Another lame attempt at playing the race card.

The NAACP went through a 2 year audit.

It's not a race card "thing".

And most of these Tea Party groups got their status. By the way, the law for the this, sucks.

501(c) organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Stephanie]

After their president chairman Bush?

USATODAY.com - NAACP in hot water over speech



Feel free.

I am sure the conservatives were in an uproar about that!

Right?

dear gawd sallow, you too
can't you go back to Reagan and ask people where they were just to DEFEND this administration?

What's happening here is a lot of shit is being flung around and you guys are waiting for something to stick.

As it happens, this is nothing new. The commissioner of the IRS Doug Shulman was a Bush appointee. And the Tea Party are saying that this started last year.

Well..

well we are GLAD you find it so funny

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yeah where was the Media?

Obviously that audit was unremarkable as many tax exempt entities are similarly audited so no flags were raised. That these so called conservative tax exempt groups were subject to a pattern is the issue.

Another lame attempt at playing the race card.

The NAACP went through a 2 year audit.

So what? Major audits of large organizations take a long time.

It's not a race card "thing".

OK Sure.

And most of these Tea Party groups got their status. By the way, the law for the this, sucks.

I don't think any organization should be tax exempt. But obviously the pattern was clear with the so called conservative groups and not so with the NAACP.

Trying to present one audit as a pattern is disingenuous. And that you chose the NAACP is a lame attempt to paint republicans as racist.

 

[Wildman]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

we were there, and supported the audit because they were using their tax exempt status for illegal purposes.

No, you supported the audit because you didn't like the political purpose they were using the funds for.

you do not know shit about me, but you just proved you have shit for brains.., just like all liarberals

 

[BillyV]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

I am sure the conservatives were in an uproar about that!

Right?

I'm sure they dressed in their finest white robes while attending the weekly cross-burning and discussed it. <-----Sarcasm intended.

and which party had the grand wizard. but you be a good little german soldier so ya don't have to think for yurself.

So lemme see if I have this straight.

IRS Auditing NAACP = Good.

IRS Auditing Tea Party = Very Very Very VERY VERRY BAAADDD!

FIRE BAD. BAD.

These two issues are completely unrelated. First of all, the IRS was not "auditing" the tea party (or other conservative groups it interfered with); it delayed them from forming during an election cycle. In other words, it prevented them from exercising their rights to free political speech. The NAACP, on the other hand, was audited, and rightly so. You see, the national NAACP is a 501 (C) (3) entity; that means contributions are tax deductible and there are very strict rules to prevent those types of charitable entities from engaging in partisan politics. Why? Because the US government, through the tax expenditures created by the charitable contribution deduction, is basically funding the activities of this type of organization, and allowing them to be partisan would allow the government (especially the party in power) to fund political campaigns with public money. Other provisions of chapter 501 (C) allow for political groups to act as non-profit entities and do not tax them on the contributions they collect, but do not allow for a tax deduction for the donor. It's night and day, and based upon the rhetoric of the organization in 2004, the IRS was correct in investigating whether any of the funds collected as charitable contributions were used in partisan "electioneering".

 

[Sallow]

Yeah where was the Media?

Obviously that audit was unremarkable as many tax exempt entities are similarly audited so no flags were raised. That these so called conservative tax exempt groups were subject to a pattern is the issue.

Another lame attempt at playing the race card.

The NAACP went through a 2 year audit.

So what? Major audits of large organizations take a long time.

It's not a race card "thing".

OK Sure.

And most of these Tea Party groups got their status. By the way, the law for the this, sucks.

I don't think any organization should be tax exempt. But obviously the pattern was clear with the so called conservative groups and not so with the NAACP.

Trying to present one audit as a pattern is disingenuous. And that you chose the NAACP is a lame attempt to paint republicans as racist.

It's the history , chief.

And at the conclusion of the audit, no wrong doing was found.

And NO CONSERVATIVE COMPLAINED.

I've also put up links to politically motivated audits of churches.

 

[Katzndogz]

This goes way beyond an audit. IF the IRS had not only audited the NAACP but demanded all of the communications of the individual members, now we have a basis for comparison.

 

[Sallow]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

I am sure the conservatives were in an uproar about that!

Right?

and which party had the grand wizard. but you be a good little german soldier so ya don't have to think for yurself.

So lemme see if I have this straight.

IRS Auditing NAACP = Good.

IRS Auditing Tea Party = Very Very Very VERY VERRY BAAADDD!

FIRE BAD. BAD.

These two issues are completely unrelated. First of all, the IRS was not "auditing" the tea party (or other conservative groups it interfered with); it delayed them from forming during an election cycle. In other words, it prevented them from exercising their rights to free political speech. The NAACP, on the other hand, was audited, and rightly so. You see, the national NAACP is a 501 (C) (3) entity; that means contributions are tax deductible and there are very strict rules to prevent those types of charitable entities from engaging in partisan politics. Why? Because the US government, through the tax expenditures created by the charitable contribution deduction, is basically funding the activities of this type of organization, and allowing them to be partisan would allow the government (especially the party in power) to fund political campaigns with public money. Other provisions of chapter 501 (C) allow for political groups to act as non-profit entities and do not tax them on the contributions they collect, but do not allow for a tax deduction for the donor. It's night and day, and based upon the rhetoric of the organization in 2004, the IRS was correct in investigating whether any of the funds collected as charitable contributions were used in partisan "electioneering".

If these groups weren't politically motivated..where is the harm?

Oh yeah.

They were politically motivated. And WERE INVOLVED IN POLITICS.

This is starting to fall apart.

 

[NoNukes]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

I'm sure they dressed in their finest white robes while attending the weekly cross-burning and discussed it. <-----Sarcasm intended.

and which party had the grand wizard. but you be a good little german soldier so ya don't have to think for yurself.

Someone who can think for themself knows the difference between past and present. You obviously do not.

 

[healthmyths]

After their president chairman Bush?

USATODAY.com - NAACP in hot water over speech

WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service is reviewing the tax-exempt status of the nation's oldest civil rights organization, saying criticism of President Bush at the NAACP's national convention in July may have violated rules against partisan activity.


NAACP Chairman Julian Bond says about the IRS probe: "We intend to fight this with every resource we have."
By Henry Koshollek, The Capital Times file

In a letter dated Oct. 8, the IRS said it had "received information" that NAACP Chairman Julian Bond "condemned the administration policies of George W. Bush on education, the economy and the war in Iraq" in a July 11 speech.

Feel free.

I am sure the conservatives were in an uproar about that!

Right?

Were you outraged about the NAACP in 2004? Are you outraged over the audits of the Tea Party and other conservatives now? If the answers are yes to the first and no to the second which I suspect is the case you can put yourself under the heading of hypocrite which seems to what your trying to to the right with this thread. By the way when the I.R.S. starts playing politics everyone should be outraged no matter what side of the political fence you fall on much like we should all be outraged over the Justice Department secretly obtaining two months of phone records from the reporters and editors of the Associated Press.

How MANY NAACP type politically LEFT were audited in 2004?
Give me the exact number because I'll share how many politically RIGHT... were delayed in their 501c applications, were later audited, were later harrassed by the IRS...

298 groups for special scrutiny, according to a congressional aide with knowledge of the report.
Seventy-two had “tea party” in their title, while 13 had “patriot” and 11 had “9/12,” the aide said.
Lingering questions about the IRS targeting of conservative groups

AGAIN how many groups including NAACP 501c STATUS were questioned when 99% of their endorsements were Democrats?
That is against the rules of 501c. So I'm sure politically adept IRS with Obama loyalties looked at the same story!

MY point though 298 groups were targeted... HOW MANY targeted by IRS in 2004 for liberal/progressive/socialist titles???
How many???

 

[Sallow]

This goes way beyond an audit. IF the IRS had not only audited the NAACP but demanded all of the communications of the individual members, now we have a basis for comparison.

They audited the NAACP for 2 YEARS.

Who knows what they were demanding..

 

[NoNukes]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

I'm sure they dressed in their finest white robes while attending the weekly cross-burning and discussed it. <-----Sarcasm intended.

Learn some history, or quit lying, the clan was all about democrats.

WAS. You guys are really thick on this subject.

 

[Sallow]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

we were there, and supported the audit because they were using their tax exempt status for illegal purposes.

No, you supported the audit because you didn't like the political purpose they were using the funds for.

you do not know shit about me, but you just proved you have shit for brains.., just like all liarberals

Except after the 2 year audit, NO WRONG DOING WAS FOUND.

That "shit for brains" thing is becoming ironic.

 

[NLT]

Where were the Republicans in 2004, when the NAACP was audited?

I'm sure they dressed in their finest white robes while attending the weekly cross-burning and discussed it. <-----Sarcasm intended.

Are Liberal USMB Moderators guilty of the same tactics as the IRS ?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

it smells like desperation and cognition failure in here.

 

[Katzndogz]

Sorry but being black is not an exemption from the law, nor is an exemption from an audit.

This is aside from the fact that the NAACP had been operating for decades and had books to audit. The IRS targeted groups that had not been formed and had no books to audit. Lacking books to audit, the IRS demanded the names of everyone that the organization's individual members and unpaid volunteers had donated to, the dates and amounts. It was not an audit, it was simple harassment and done with the purpose of silencing these organizations before they could influence the election.

 

[Sallow]

Sorry but being black is not an exemption from the law, nor is an exemption from an audit.

This is aside from the fact that the NAACP had been operating for decades and had books to audit. The IRS targeted groups that had not been formed and had no books to audit. Lacking books to audit, the IRS demanded the names of everyone that the organization's individual members and unpaid volunteers had donated to, the dates and amounts. It was not an audit, it was simple harassment and done with the purpose of silencing these organizations before they could influence the election.

Except the tax exempt status points out they are NOT suppose to be "influencing" elections.

Anywhoo..



It's funny that Bush made a speech drawing lines in terms of people that supported his effort to make war and people that didn't.

He said, either you are with us..or against us.

Then, anyone who criticized or questioned this stance got into deep trouble.

Shinseki questioned the strategy? Forced out.
NAACP criticized the war? 2 year audit.
Rangel suggests that the draft be reinstated? Audit and embarrassed.
Several churches speak out against the war? Audits.

Where were you guys back then?