Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[PoliticalChic]

1. "Planned Parenthood’s business model is centered on abortion.

Former Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson has written that she was given an abortion quota, and was even told by her superiors to “double the number of abortions” in order to bring in more revenue.[vii]Abortion patients constitute 12 percent of Planned Parenthood clients -- 332,000 of 3 million unduplicated clients in its most current report.

37 percent of all Planned Parenthood clinic income revenue is from abortion procedures, according to conservative estimates. Planned Parenthood has issued a directive instructing that all affiliates must have at least one clinic that performs abortion by 2013.[viii]

According to an NBC news report from December 2012, our of the “74 regional affiliates” a handful of those affiliates chose to leave the organization, rather than comply with the policy."
Top 12 Reasons to Defund Planned Parenthood Now | SBA-List


2. "...Planned Parenthood"raked in more than $300 million in profits over the past four years."We'll focus on two parts: Is the dollar figure right, and is 'profit' the right word?

We contacted SBA List spokeswoman Mallory Quigley, who referred us to "excess of revenue over expenses" listed in Planned Parenthood's annual reports. Here is what those reports show:

2005-06:$55.8 million
2006-07:$114.8 million
2007-08:$85 million
2008-09:$63.4 million

Total: $319 million."
Abortion opponents claim Planned Parenthood had $300 million 'profit'


According to the hearings, it made over $100 million last year.


3.And, most important to the discussion.....you haven't been able to dispute my statement that the unborn is not a part of the mother's body....and therefore, she has no right to decide on its death.


You may continue to try to change the direction of this thread, but, as you can see....I will not allow it.

Never quote Johnson, she's a loon.

In other words you cannot deny the truth of the quote.

I see this tactic frequently among Liberals.

There is no truth in her quote, hence the problem. She's a loon, quote a reliable source next time, and she isn't one.

You never have been any good at understanding the different between fact, opinion, and lies, which is why you quote lies.

I might believe your post, had you not been caught lying so frequently.

I never lie, that's you gig, and everyone here knows it.

You lie all the time.

The classic was claiming that the Founders were socialists of your ilk.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"PLANNED PARENTHOOD: OVER 333,000 BABIES ABORTED IN 2011"
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart
Possibly it's time for your B12 shot.

Which is 1/3 of all the induced abortions here. BFD.

What percent of government funded abortions is it?
That is the focus of the thread.

The government, by law, funds very few abortions, but Israel does and you don't have issues sending them cash...

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm not running or hiding...but you're dodging the uncomfortable question about Isreal. I wonder why that could be? No, I'm really not wondering. I know why you're ducking and dodging it...it makes you out to be a raving hypocrite.

Federal funds don't pay for abortions.

Do you know HOW PP get's it's federal money?

1. Start a thread on that topic rather than trying to insinuate it into one revealing the illegitimacy of Planned Parenthood.

2. "Federal funds don't pay for abortions."
Of course they do.

Abortions are Planned Parenthood's raison d'être.

3. Once Liberals/Democrats hand over the half a billion dollars, Planned Abortion Mill uses it however it chooses.
And folks like you pretend to be blind to it.

4.Further, it is a money laundering operation, as a percentage of the pay off is shunted right back to Democrat/Liberal candidates.

So....you see....you really can run, but not hide: I've exposed you.

I don't need to start a thread on it. Your stunning hypocrisy was exposed in this thread. You support aid to Israel (despite state funded abortions in that country), but oppose the reimbursement of PP by Medicaid or Title 10 even though no federal funds pay for abortions.

1. "Planned Parenthood’s business model is centered on abortion.

Former Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson has written that she was given an abortion quota, and was even told by her superiors to “double the number of abortions” in order to bring in more revenue.[vii]Abortion patients constitute 12 percent of Planned Parenthood clients -- 332,000 of 3 million unduplicated clients in its most current report.

37 percent of all Planned Parenthood clinic income revenue is from abortion procedures, according to conservative estimates. Planned Parenthood has issued a directive instructing that all affiliates must have at least one clinic that performs abortion by 2013.[viii]

According to an NBC news report from December 2012, our of the “74 regional affiliates” a handful of those affiliates chose to leave the organization, rather than comply with the policy."
Top 12 Reasons to Defund Planned Parenthood Now | SBA-List


2. "...Planned Parenthood"raked in more than $300 million in profits over the past four years."We'll focus on two parts: Is the dollar figure right, and is 'profit' the right word?

We contacted SBA List spokeswoman Mallory Quigley, who referred us to "excess of revenue over expenses" listed in Planned Parenthood's annual reports. Here is what those reports show:

2005-06:$55.8 million
2006-07:$114.8 million
2007-08:$85 million
2008-09:$63.4 million

Total: $319 million."
Abortion opponents claim Planned Parenthood had $300 million 'profit'


According to the hearings, it made over $100 million last year.


3.And, most important to the discussion.....you haven't been able to dispute my statement that the unborn is not a part of the mother's body....and therefore, she has no right to decide on its death.


You may continue to try to change the direction of this thread, but, as you can see....I will not allow it.

You can try to duck and dodge your hypocrisy...but you've been exposed.

I've haven't ducked nor dodged anything that has to do with the illegitimacy of funding Planned Parenthood, nor the evil of allowing one person to kill another.

You have.

Yes you have. You haven't told us what the law should be regarding women getting abortions.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Many of the abortions at PP facilities are paid for out of the patient's pocket.

I would bet nearly all...

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "Planned Parenthood’s business model is centered on abortion.

Former Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson has written that she was given an abortion quota, and was even told by her superiors to “double the number of abortions” in order to bring in more revenue.[vii]Abortion patients constitute 12 percent of Planned Parenthood clients -- 332,000 of 3 million unduplicated clients in its most current report.

37 percent of all Planned Parenthood clinic income revenue is from abortion procedures, according to conservative estimates. Planned Parenthood has issued a directive instructing that all affiliates must have at least one clinic that performs abortion by 2013.[viii]

According to an NBC news report from December 2012, our of the “74 regional affiliates” a handful of those affiliates chose to leave the organization, rather than comply with the policy."
Top 12 Reasons to Defund Planned Parenthood Now | SBA-List


2. "...Planned Parenthood"raked in more than $300 million in profits over the past four years."We'll focus on two parts: Is the dollar figure right, and is 'profit' the right word?

We contacted SBA List spokeswoman Mallory Quigley, who referred us to "excess of revenue over expenses" listed in Planned Parenthood's annual reports. Here is what those reports show:

2005-06:$55.8 million
2006-07:$114.8 million
2007-08:$85 million
2008-09:$63.4 million

Total: $319 million."
Abortion opponents claim Planned Parenthood had $300 million 'profit'


According to the hearings, it made over $100 million last year.


3.And, most important to the discussion.....you haven't been able to dispute my statement that the unborn is not a part of the mother's body....and therefore, she has no right to decide on its death.


You may continue to try to change the direction of this thread, but, as you can see....I will not allow it.

You can try to duck and dodge your hypocrisy...but you've been exposed.

I've haven't ducked nor dodged anything that has to do with the illegitimacy of funding Planned Parenthood, nor the evil of allowing one person to kill another.

You have.

Americans supporting abortion = bad.
Israelis supporting abortion = good.

We got it.

Giving up?

New tactic: change the subject?

Just pointing out your hypocrisy...

As the saying goes, to see what the Left....i.e., you.....is doing, see what they charge the other side with.


Forgive me for ending that sentence with a preposition!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Never quote Johnson, she's a loon.

In other words you cannot deny the truth of the quote.

I see this tactic frequently among Liberals.

There is no truth in her quote, hence the problem. She's a loon, quote a reliable source next time, and she isn't one.

You never have been any good at understanding the different between fact, opinion, and lies, which is why you quote lies.

I might believe your post, had you not been caught lying so frequently.

I never lie, that's you gig, and everyone here knows it.

You lie all the time.

The classic was claiming that the Founders were socialists of your ilk.

You claimed the founders were free traders, when in fact they were protectionists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Start a thread on that topic rather than trying to insinuate it into one revealing the illegitimacy of Planned Parenthood.

2. "Federal funds don't pay for abortions."
Of course they do.

Abortions are Planned Parenthood's raison d'être.

3. Once Liberals/Democrats hand over the half a billion dollars, Planned Abortion Mill uses it however it chooses.
And folks like you pretend to be blind to it.

4.Further, it is a money laundering operation, as a percentage of the pay off is shunted right back to Democrat/Liberal candidates.

So....you see....you really can run, but not hide: I've exposed you.

I don't need to start a thread on it. Your stunning hypocrisy was exposed in this thread. You support aid to Israel (despite state funded abortions in that country), but oppose the reimbursement of PP by Medicaid or Title 10 even though no federal funds pay for abortions.

1. "Planned Parenthood’s business model is centered on abortion.

Former Planned Parenthood clinic director Abby Johnson has written that she was given an abortion quota, and was even told by her superiors to “double the number of abortions” in order to bring in more revenue.[vii]Abortion patients constitute 12 percent of Planned Parenthood clients -- 332,000 of 3 million unduplicated clients in its most current report.

37 percent of all Planned Parenthood clinic income revenue is from abortion procedures, according to conservative estimates. Planned Parenthood has issued a directive instructing that all affiliates must have at least one clinic that performs abortion by 2013.[viii]

According to an NBC news report from December 2012, our of the “74 regional affiliates” a handful of those affiliates chose to leave the organization, rather than comply with the policy."
Top 12 Reasons to Defund Planned Parenthood Now | SBA-List


2. "...Planned Parenthood"raked in more than $300 million in profits over the past four years."We'll focus on two parts: Is the dollar figure right, and is 'profit' the right word?

We contacted SBA List spokeswoman Mallory Quigley, who referred us to "excess of revenue over expenses" listed in Planned Parenthood's annual reports. Here is what those reports show:

2005-06:$55.8 million
2006-07:$114.8 million
2007-08:$85 million
2008-09:$63.4 million

Total: $319 million."
Abortion opponents claim Planned Parenthood had $300 million 'profit'


According to the hearings, it made over $100 million last year.


3.And, most important to the discussion.....you haven't been able to dispute my statement that the unborn is not a part of the mother's body....and therefore, she has no right to decide on its death.


You may continue to try to change the direction of this thread, but, as you can see....I will not allow it.

You can try to duck and dodge your hypocrisy...but you've been exposed.

I've haven't ducked nor dodged anything that has to do with the illegitimacy of funding Planned Parenthood, nor the evil of allowing one person to kill another.

You have.

Yes you have. You haven't told us what the law should be regarding women getting abortions.

Ooooo.....I said 'lie' and look who shows up!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

You lie all the time.

The classic was claiming that the Founders were socialists of your ilk.

The Founders were liberals, the only real Americans, just as I am.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"PLANNED PARENTHOOD: OVER 333,000 BABIES ABORTED IN 2011"
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart
Possibly it's time for your B12 shot.

Which is 1/3 of all the induced abortions here. BFD.

What percent of government funded abortions is it?
That is the focus of the thread.

Many of the abortions at PP facilities are paid for out of the patient's pocket.

And the rest....paid for by government.

1. 
   ... the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.
   Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaHyde_Amendment
   Wikipedia I love it when you stick both feet in your mouth like this!!!!
   

 

[PaintMyHouse]

PC's kind of folk:

"In Nazi Germany, the penalties for abortion were increased again. In 1943, providing an abortion to an "Aryan" woman became a capital offense. Abortion was permitted if the foetus was deformed or disabled.[2][3]

The Cross of Honour of the German Mother (German: Ehrenkreuz der Deutschen Mutter), referred to colloquially as the Mutterehrenkreuz (Mother’s Cross of Honour) or simply Mutterkreuz (Mother’s Cross), was a state decoration and civil order of merit conferred by the government of the German Reich[4][5] to honour a Reichsdeutsche German mother for exceptional merit to the German nation.[5][6][7] Eligibility later extended to include Volksdeutsche (ethnic German) mothers from, for example, Austria and Sudetenland, that had earlier been incorporated into the German Reich.[7]

The decoration was conferred from 1939 until 1945[8] in three classes of order, bronze, silver, and gold,[5][9] to Reichsdeutsche mothers who exhibited probity, exemplary motherhood, and who conceived and raised at least four or more children in the role of a parent.[10][11]"
Abortion in Germany - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And the rest....paid for by government.

1. 
   ... the Hyde Amendment is a legislative provision barring the use of certain federal funds to pay for abortion unless the pregnancy arises from incest, rape, or to save the life of the mother.
   Hyde Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
   Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaHyde_Amendment
   Wikipedia

The rest, meaning a few? Yep.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Many of the abortions at PP facilities are paid for out of the patient's pocket.

I would bet nearly all...

75% of PP's government funding comes from Medicaid. You cannot have an abortion and then file a federal claim to Medicaid to pay for it (with narrow exceptions under the Hyde Amendment).

 

[PoliticalChic]

You lie all the time.

The classic was claiming that the Founders were socialists of your ilk.

The Founders were liberals, the only real Americans, just as I am.

Great!

We prove you're a liar ....like this:

1. "Pity the poor liberal. And I mean the real liberal. Not the modern watered-down socialist who calls himself a liberal but a real, honest, classical liberal. There is so much confusion over the term and real liberals have allowed fake liberals to get away with this subtle destruction of the language.
2. The classical liberals proposed laissez faire and this led to prosperity. The economics of 19th century liberalism brought about a major increase in the standard of living of all people. Thus real liberalism produced the effects which socialists dreamed their system would provide.
   1. Many socialists wanted prosperity and thought socialism would lead to such results faster than classical liberalism. But at the same time many socialists saw their ideology as a means of grabbing power for themselves and it was the power, not the promised prosperity, which attracted them.
3. [Socialists] knew that liberalism had a good reputation with the working classes — the very audience which they were targeting. The idea was to adopt the name liberal to describe socialism. Socialism, as socialism, was harder to sell. But by taking a name they did not deserve they felt they could make political gains on the backs of classical liberalism. And they did.
4. In the United States, where liberalism most clearly reversed its meaning, in common parlance, it was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label. Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism already existed in America."
   by Jim Peron

So....you are a liar, and a socialist.

QED

 

[PoliticalChic]

Many of the abortions at PP facilities are paid for out of the patient's pocket.

I would bet nearly all...

75% of PP's government funding comes from Medicaid. You cannot have an abortion and then file a federal claim to Medicaid to pay for it (with narrow exceptions under the Hyde Amendment).

Furthermore, last year PP did about 300,000 abortions and also received $390,000 in private donations. Even if every abortion was valued at a $1000 per, and even if PP used its funding sources for every one,

its private donations alone would cover more than that mythical, inflated cost number.

Half a billion dollars come from the federal government.....

....this is illegal and should be stopped.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Let's try and get the numbers right eh?

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

So....you are a liar, and a socialist.

QED

Since I'm a liberal not a socialist, you've kind of fucked yourself, as usual.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's try and get the numbers right eh?

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

I must tell you that post #813, proving you a liar and a socialist was truly invigorating.

I love doing that.

Since you Leftists neither hesitate to lie, nor evince any shame in lying or being caught lying.....

....it turns out a win-win.


Don't ever change.



BTW......that chart is bogus.
Would you like me to prove that FactCheck is a left wing organization and defends both Obama and every leftist endeavor?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Let's try and get the numbers right eh?

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

I must tell you that post #813, proving you a liar and a socialist was truly invigorating.

I love doing that.

Since you Leftists neither hesitate to lie, nor evince any shame in lying or being caught lying.....

....it turns out a win-win.


Don't ever change.



BTW......that chart is bogus.
Would you like me to prove that FactCheck is a left wing organization and defends both Obama and every leftist endeavor?

The chart is based off of the numbers PP publishes. Nothing bogus about it: Planned Parenthood 2013-2014 Annual Report

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Many of the abortions at PP facilities are paid for out of the patient's pocket.

I would bet nearly all...

75% of PP's government funding comes from Medicaid. You cannot have an abortion and then file a federal claim to Medicaid to pay for it (with narrow exceptions under the Hyde Amendment).

Furthermore, last year PP did about 300,000 abortions and also received $390,000 in private donations. Even if every abortion was valued at a $1000 per, and even if PP used its funding sources for every one,

its private donations alone would cover more than that mythical, inflated cost number.

Half a billion dollars come from the federal government.....
....this is illegal and should be stopped.

There's nothing illegal about it at all. PP obeys the law, it doesn't chance, pun intended, a choice.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So....you are a liar, and a socialist.

QED

Since I'm a liberal not a socialist, you've kind of fucked yourself, as usual.

I simply love providing the education that government schools hide!


So....more:

1. Progressives saw WWI as an opportunity to change America and enforce collectivization. “In 1917, as Woodrow Wilson prepared to take the United States into the European war, the leading collectivist intellectuals of the day, John Dewey and Herbert Croly of The New Republic, beat the drums for American participation. …Dewey wrote that the progressive opponents of war were blind to the “immense impetus to reorganization afforded by this war.” He hoped they would work “to form ... the conditions and objects of our entrance.” In other words, they should exploit the opportunities war bestowed for collectivizing America. Croly was pithier: “The American nation needs the tonic of a serious moral adventure.” http://fff.org/freedom/fd0203c.asp
   1. “Once the war is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.” From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”
   2. Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” Taking liberties

So...you are a socialist, liar, and collectivist.


Need more?