Why are our for-profit health care companies always giving away free flu shots ?

the other mike

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It's nothing new. Been going on for years.

But is anyone else suspicious about why they give them away free ?

If you think it's because they care about you and want everyone to stay healthy, then you're a lot less skeptical than I am. In fact, I believe it's exactly the opposite- the sicker we are, the more money they make.


 
It's nothing new. Been going on for years.

But is anyone else suspicious about why they give them away free ?

If you think it's because they care about you and want everyone to stay healthy, then you're a lot less skeptical than I am. In fact, I believe it's exactly the opposite- the sicker we are, the more money they make.


Chronic health conditions mean higher payment outlays and thus higher premiums justified for awhile. I say for awhile because eventually that won't be enough money for them and they will just start limiting services unless again higher premiums are paid. They are an insatiable batch.
 
Probably a breakeven point based on what insurances pay and number of insured that receive vs the actual cost and projected number of uninsured shots given away, so uninsured are actually payed for by the difference. We do Walgreens or kroger pharmacy, both aware of our insurances. I doubt these places usually involved in pharmacy retail are losing much and consider the advertising benefit of getting more people to come through the door. I doubt if your primary care physician is giving them away.
 
Generally speaking ... the patents on vaccines are all expired ... very little profit or even a loss on producing them ... but We the People insist on having these vaccines, and so direct Our Government to mandate the companies produce them and pay for them with tax dollars ...

Not free ... just socialized ... glad to be rid of polio ...
 
Why are our for-profit health care companies always giving away free flu shots ?

Because they're inexpensive and because it's expensive when people are hospitalized with the flu.
 
Why are our for-profit health care companies always giving away free flu shots ?

Because they're inexpensive and because it's expensive when people are hospitalized with the flu.
That is because there is no liability from the adverse reactions to any of these vaccines pushed and generally they are paid for in advance by taxpayers dollars; along with settlement for injuries come from those same taxpayers for the severe adverse reactions caused.

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That is because there is no liability from the adverse reactions to any of these vaccines pushed and generally they are paid for in advance by taxpayers dollars; along with settlement for injuries come from those same taxpayers for the severe adverse reactions caused.

Because the best way to stop their production is to pay out millions in settlements for a low-profit product.
 
That is because there is no liability from the adverse reactions to any of these vaccines pushed and generally they are paid for in advance by taxpayers dollars; along with settlement for injuries come from those same taxpayers for the severe adverse reactions caused.

Because the best way to stop their production is to pay out millions in settlements for a low-profit product.
Best way to stop influenza is Licorice Root.

The influenza vaccines are merely a money grab that are giving unnecessary toxins that on a whole weakens the natural immune system to those dumb enough to take them. They get the American citizens to help pay for their worldwide population control agendas by allowing pharma to poison them.

 
The influenza vaccines are merely a money grab

Not very profitable at all..........kind of the opposite of a money grab.
Just one more portion of commerce that would not survive unless they can do it off the taxpayer. It is a money grab of public funds. F, big pharma.
 
Here is why:
They are cheap to make- The manufaturer has ZERO liability- "vaccines" make people feel safer- that leads to unsafe behavior- that leads to more sick people = more profit.

According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy. So only stupid people get them.
 
Here is why:
They are cheap to make- The manufaturer has ZERO liability- "vaccines" make people feel safer- that leads to unsafe behavior- that leads to more sick people = more profit.

According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy. So only stupid people get them.

How effective is the flu vaccine?
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses. See “Does flu vaccine effectiveness vary by type or subtype?” and “Why is flu vaccine typically less effective against influenza A H3N2 viruses?” for more information.

 
Here is why:
They are cheap to make- The manufaturer has ZERO liability- "vaccines" make people feel safer- that leads to unsafe behavior- that leads to more sick people = more profit.

According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy. So only stupid people get them.

How effective is the flu vaccine?
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses. See “Does flu vaccine effectiveness vary by type or subtype?” and “Why is flu vaccine typically less effective against influenza A H3N2 viruses?” for more information.


Wrong.

Here is flu efficacy data for every year since they began tracking in 2004-2005

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%


2018-19Flannery 2020external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA3,2542921, 35
2017-18Rolfes 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA8,4363831, 43
2016-17Flannery 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA74104032, 46
2015-16Jackson 2017external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA68794841, 55
2014-15Zimmerman 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA93111910, 27
2013-14Gaglani 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA59995244, 59
2012-13McLean 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA64524943, 55
2011-12Ohmit 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA47714736, 56
2010-11Treanor 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN47576053, 66
2009-10Griffin 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN67575623, 75
2008-09UnpublishedWI, MI, NY, TN67134130, 50
2007-08Belongia 2011external iconWI19143722, 49
2006-07Belongia 2009external iconWI8715222, 70
2005-06Belongia 2009external iconWI34621-52, 59
2004-05Belongia 2009external iconWI76210-36, 40


 
Here is why:
They are cheap to make- The manufaturer has ZERO liability- "vaccines" make people feel safer- that leads to unsafe behavior- that leads to more sick people = more profit.

According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy. So only stupid people get them.

How effective is the flu vaccine?
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses. See “Does flu vaccine effectiveness vary by type or subtype?” and “Why is flu vaccine typically less effective against influenza A H3N2 viruses?” for more information.


Wrong.

Here is flu efficacy data for every year since they began tracking in 2004-2005

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%


2018-19Flannery 2020external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA3,2542921, 35
2017-18Rolfes 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA8,4363831, 43
2016-17Flannery 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA74104032, 46
2015-16Jackson 2017external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA68794841, 55
2014-15Zimmerman 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA93111910, 27
2013-14Gaglani 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA59995244, 59
2012-13McLean 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA64524943, 55
2011-12Ohmit 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA47714736, 56
2010-11Treanor 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN47576053, 66
2009-10Griffin 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN67575623, 75
2008-09UnpublishedWI, MI, NY, TN67134130, 50
2007-08Belongia 2011external iconWI19143722, 49
2006-07Belongia 2009external iconWI8715222, 70
2005-06Belongia 2009external iconWI34621-52, 59
2004-05Belongia 2009external iconWI76210-36, 40



According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy.

The CDC says you're wrong.

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%

I agree, your tiny sample also proved your original claim was wrong.
 
Here is why:
They are cheap to make- The manufaturer has ZERO liability- "vaccines" make people feel safer- that leads to unsafe behavior- that leads to more sick people = more profit.

According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy. So only stupid people get them.

How effective is the flu vaccine?
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses. See “Does flu vaccine effectiveness vary by type or subtype?” and “Why is flu vaccine typically less effective against influenza A H3N2 viruses?” for more information.


Wrong.

Here is flu efficacy data for every year since they began tracking in 2004-2005

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%


2018-19Flannery 2020external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA3,2542921, 35
2017-18Rolfes 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA8,4363831, 43
2016-17Flannery 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA74104032, 46
2015-16Jackson 2017external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA68794841, 55
2014-15Zimmerman 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA93111910, 27
2013-14Gaglani 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA59995244, 59
2012-13McLean 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA64524943, 55
2011-12Ohmit 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA47714736, 56
2010-11Treanor 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN47576053, 66
2009-10Griffin 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN67575623, 75
2008-09UnpublishedWI, MI, NY, TN67134130, 50
2007-08Belongia 2011external iconWI19143722, 49
2006-07Belongia 2009external iconWI8715222, 70
2005-06Belongia 2009external iconWI34621-52, 59
2004-05Belongia 2009external iconWI76210-36, 40



According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy.

The CDC says you're wrong.

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%

I agree, your tiny sample also proved your original claim was wrong.

Two things-
1- learn to use the quote function.
2- read your own post:
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine


By contrast, I linked to the actual data that the CDC uses to determine annual efficacy. Feel free to Blame them. They are the ones sending out lies and disinformation. The data is the data.
 
Here is why:
They are cheap to make- The manufaturer has ZERO liability- "vaccines" make people feel safer- that leads to unsafe behavior- that leads to more sick people = more profit.

According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy. So only stupid people get them.

How effective is the flu vaccine?
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine. In general, current flu vaccines tend to work better against influenza B and influenza A(H1N1) viruses and offer lower protection against influenza A(H3N2) viruses. See “Does flu vaccine effectiveness vary by type or subtype?” and “Why is flu vaccine typically less effective against influenza A H3N2 viruses?” for more information.


Wrong.

Here is flu efficacy data for every year since they began tracking in 2004-2005

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%


2018-19Flannery 2020external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA3,2542921, 35
2017-18Rolfes 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA8,4363831, 43
2016-17Flannery 2019external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA74104032, 46
2015-16Jackson 2017external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA68794841, 55
2014-15Zimmerman 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA93111910, 27
2013-14Gaglani 2016external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA59995244, 59
2012-13McLean 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA64524943, 55
2011-12Ohmit 2014external iconWI, MI, PA, TX, WA47714736, 56
2010-11Treanor 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN47576053, 66
2009-10Griffin 2011external iconWI, MI, NY, TN67575623, 75
2008-09UnpublishedWI, MI, NY, TN67134130, 50
2007-08Belongia 2011external iconWI19143722, 49
2006-07Belongia 2009external iconWI8715222, 70
2005-06Belongia 2009external iconWI34621-52, 59
2004-05Belongia 2009external iconWI76210-36, 40



According to the CDC, Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy.

The CDC says you're wrong.

The 5th column is the efficacy column = if you add up all 15 years get an average that is under 40%

I agree, your tiny sample also proved your original claim was wrong.

Two things-
1- learn to use the quote function.
2- read your own post:
CDC conducts studies each year to determine how well the influenza (flu) vaccine protects against flu illness. While vaccine effectiveness (VE) can vary, recent studies show that flu vaccination reduces the risk of flu illness by between 40% and 60% among the overall population during seasons when most circulating flu viruses are well-matched to the flu vaccine


By contrast, I linked to the actual data that the CDC uses to determine annual efficacy. Feel free to Blame them. They are the ones sending out lies and disinformation. The data is the data.

learn to use the quote function.

I'm fine doing it this way.

read your own post:

You mean the one where the CDC didn't say "Flu Vaccines have less than 30% efficacy"?

By contrast, I linked to the actual data that the CDC uses to determine annual efficacy.

Yes, your tiny sample (about 75,000) that said "almost 40%" helped your "less than 30%" claim.
 
Why are our for-profit health care companies always giving away free flu shots ?

Because they're inexpensive and because it's expensive when people are hospitalized with the flu.
Not buying it.
If that were the case, they'd be curing us instead of
over-medicating us.
 
It's nothing new. Been going on for years.

But is anyone else suspicious about why they give them away free ?

If you think it's because they care about you and want everyone to stay healthy, then you're a lot less skeptical than I am. In fact, I believe it's exactly the opposite- the sicker we are, the more money they make.



If you have insurance they're filing a claim and getting reimbursed from the insurance company.
 

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