Why Bernie Wins in One Word: Class

[bluzman61]

Bernie is rich

so if he hates the rich does he hate himself too?

He hates cheaters who hide their capital gains in the Cayman Islands and Luxembourg to avoid paying taxes, to the tune of trillions.

So did Paul Wellstone.

And? You see anybody defending Wellstone?

You haven't ever been really quick on the uptake, have ya?

Yep, Dr Grump IS quite dim. I believe severe TDS caused this.

 

[the other mike]

Ending wars and closing 900 overseas military bases we never needed.

The elephant in the room.

Since the United States took on the role of the World's Police, how many World Wars have there been? The world was getting smaller and smaller since the advent of the airplane, aircraft carriers and faster, stronger warships. We are now in a world economy, more and more countries have nuclear weapons and more and more have the ability to launch ICBMs as well as satellites.

Specifically, who do you expect would fill the vacuum should your dream come true and how would that be best for the world?

It's overkill. Since 9/11 we've spent $7 trillion on failed wars in the Middle East, and we have a trillion dollar a year military industrial security complex that we don't need, while our infrastructure is crumbling

 

[Thunderbird]

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"Aristotle, Niccolò Machiavelli, Alexis de Tocqueville, Adam Smith and Karl Marx grounded their philosophies in the understanding that there is a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us.

"The interests of the rich are not our interests.

"The truths of the rich are not our truths.

"The lives of the rich are not our lives.

"Great wealth not only breeds contempt for those who do not have it but it empowers oligarchs to pay armies of lawyers, publicists, politicians, judges, academics and journalists to censure and control public debate and stifle dissent."

In the link, Chris Hedges explains why the rich are happy to talk about race, sexual identity, gender, patriotism, religion, immigration, abortion, and gun control.

Because those issues divide the public into multiple warring tribes of culture combatants, and, in the process, demonstrating why malignant parasites like Trump and Bloomberg can switch effortlessly from one party to the other.

"Once oligarchs seize power, Aristotle wrote, a society must either accept tyranny or choose revolution."

If he was right, what's your choice?

Don't be dumb, Sanders aches to set up his own oligarchy, his own upper class that will oppress the people. The Bernie Bros will serve Sanders as his apparatchiks just like Yagoda served Stalin: Genrikh Yagoda - Wikipedia

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You don't like it when corporations return money to their owners?
Fuck you, start your own company.

Corporations should return money to their employees since they're the ones producing the wealth as opposed to parasitic shareholders who extract wealth. Don't agree? Learn Mandarin or Russian, Piggy.

Corporations should return money to their employees

Pick your favorite corporation.
Find out how much they paid their employees last year.
Find out how much their profit was last year.

Post your findings.

 

[Markle]

Yes, FDR was a Socialist. That he got us involved in WW-II is ludicrous.

So you should have just forgotten about Pearl Harbor?? Okay....

According to you, FDR ordered the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor? Really? Did FDR negotiate with Adolph Hitler so he would declare war on the US? Wow, you should write a book!

Huh? Where did I say that?

You jumped into another discussion starting with this by Desperado around post 50.

DESPERADO SAID: ↑
"Nothing to Brag about.... FDR was a socialist who got the US involved in WW2 against the will of the people by setting up Pearl Harbor for a Japanese attack he had been forewarned about."

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Markle]

Ending wars and closing 900 overseas military bases we never needed.

The elephant in the room.

Since the United States took on the role of the World's Police, how many World Wars have there been? The world was getting smaller and smaller since the advent of the airplane, aircraft carriers and faster, stronger warships. We are now in a world economy, more and more countries have nuclear weapons and more and more have the ability to launch ICBMs as well as satellites.

Specifically, who do you expect would fill the vacuum should your dream come true and how would that be best for the world?

It's overkill. Since 9/11 we've spent $7 trillion on failed wars in the Middle East, and we have a trillion dollar a year military industrial security complex that we don't need, while our infrastructure is crumbling

Not surprising you failed to answer my simple question. I'll refresh your memory.

Specifically, who do you expect would fill the vacuum should your dream come true and how would that be best for the world?

 

[007]

There's no denying that Trump LOVES America.

not as much as he loves his bank balance...

Shit bro... who wouldn't?

 

[bendog]

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"Aristotle, Niccolò Machiavelli, Alexis de Tocqueville, Adam Smith and Karl Marx grounded their philosophies in the understanding that there is a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us.

"The interests of the rich are not our interests.

"The truths of the rich are not our truths.

"The lives of the rich are not our lives.

"Great wealth not only breeds contempt for those who do not have it but it empowers oligarchs to pay armies of lawyers, publicists, politicians, judges, academics and journalists to censure and control public debate and stifle dissent."

In the link, Chris Hedges explains why the rich are happy to talk about race, sexual identity, gender, patriotism, religion, immigration, abortion, and gun control.

Because those issues divide the public into multiple warring tribes of culture combatants, and, in the process, demonstrating why malignant parasites like Trump and Bloomberg can switch effortlessly from one party to the other.

"Once oligarchs seize power, Aristotle wrote, a society must either accept tyranny or choose revolution."

If he was right, what's your choice?

Yah, go with that since it ALWAYS works in America

 

[georgephillip]

That was the most ridiculous statement made by Sanders yet. "The truth of the rich are not our truths."
Definition of truth" That which is true, or in accordance with fact and reality

Did you bother reading the first paragraph of my link?

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"The interests of the rich are not our interests. The truths of the rich are not our truths."

That was Chris Hedges's opinion not Bernie's; although, it is objectively true those who get rich from extracting wealth from society have interests that are polar opposites of those whose labor and consumption produces GDP.

 

[georgephillip]

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[georgephillip]

The only class Bernie has to offer is Class Warfare.

No thanks. Eight years of Obama was enough class warfare for me.

Obama was the best friend Wall Street has ever had. His side of the class war got steadily richer during the eight years he was in office, but all that will change if Bernie wins next November.

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

“Sanders’ democratic socialism is essentially that of a New Deal Democrat.'

"'His political views would be part of the mainstream in France or Germany, where democratic socialism is an accepted part of the political landscape and is routinely challenged as too accommodationist by communists and radical socialists.'

"'Sanders calls for an end to our foreign wars, a reduction of the military budget, for ‘Medicare for All,’ abolishing the death penalty, eliminating mandatory minimum sentences and private prisons, a return of Glass-Steagall, raising taxes on the wealthy, increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, canceling student debt, eliminating the Electoral College, banning fracking and breaking up agribusinesses. This does not qualify as a revolutionary agenda.'"

 

[georgephillip]

Bernie is rich

so if he hates the rich does he hate himself too?

Why would he?

His net worth is less than one percent of Trump's or Bloomberg's, and there's no indication he's ever dodged his taxes or proposed tax cuts for affluent Americans.

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"Aristotle, Niccolò Machiavelli, Alexis de Tocqueville, Adam Smith and Karl Marx grounded their philosophies in the understanding that there is a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us.

"The interests of the rich are not our interests.

"The truths of the rich are not our truths.

"The lives of the rich are not our lives.

"Great wealth not only breeds contempt for those who do not have it but it empowers oligarchs to pay armies of lawyers, publicists, politicians, judges, academics and journalists to censure and control public debate and stifle dissent."

 

[georgephillip]

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Worried about higher taxes, Ayn?

Bernie’s Wall Street Plan Is Actually Not Enough

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You don't like it when corporations return money to their owners?
Fuck you, start your own company.

We give the investment class huge tax cuts to spur investment in new jobs and higher wages but it seems they just stick it in their pocket and very little trickles down. "The stockholders" don't give a fuck who gets shafted or exploited as long as their dividend check arrives on time.

We give the investment class huge tax cuts to spur investment in new jobs and higher wages but it seems they just stick it in their pocket and very little trickles down. "The stockholders" don't give a fuck who gets shafted or exploited as long as their dividend check arrives on time.

Shareholder supremacy has much in common with the Divine Right of Kings; both are inherently undemocratic.

The Divine Right of Capital by Marjorie Kelly: A Summary (Chp. 4)

"Public corporations function like monarchies after England’s Glorious Revolution – when the king’s power was superseded by Parliament, the seats of the aristocracy.

"In the case of the corporation, the CEO is king but it is shareholders who hold the real power behind the throne.

"Instead of the divine right of kings, today we have the divine right of capital ..."

"In closed societies, the fate of society is equated with the fate of the ruling class.

"These societies create taboos to take certain topics out of the realm of debate and discussion, and blending natural laws (like gravity) with normative laws (a societal norm, like the divine right of kings).

"Today we have confused the idea that 'the only responsibility of the corporation is to make a profit' with a natural law, when in fact, it is just expresses a norm or set of behaviors that we currently practice."

 

[georgephillip]

The fly in the soup for Marx was that he did not foresee the rise of a capitalist spawned comfortable middle class.

The US middle class came from the greatest failure of capitalism in world history, the Great Depression. Marx certainly saw how an economic system that was as prone to busts and booms as capitalism would likely produce such an event.

Great Depression | Time

 

[georgephillip]

Actually, it was 'identity politics' warfare. It does lay the groundwork tho' for class warfare

Capitalism lays the groundwork for class warfare

https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/comments/14jvhm/we_dont_have_class_warfare/

 

[georgephillip]

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"Aristotle, Niccolò Machiavelli, Alexis de Tocqueville, Adam Smith and Karl Marx grounded their philosophies in the understanding that there is a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us.

"The interests of the rich are not our interests.

"The truths of the rich are not our truths.

"The lives of the rich are not our lives.

"Great wealth not only breeds contempt for those who do not have it but it empowers oligarchs to pay armies of lawyers, publicists, politicians, judges, academics and journalists to censure and control public debate and stifle dissent."

In the link, Chris Hedges explains why the rich are happy to talk about race, sexual identity, gender, patriotism, religion, immigration, abortion, and gun control.

Because those issues divide the public into multiple warring tribes of culture combatants, and, in the process, demonstrating why malignant parasites like Trump and Bloomberg can switch effortlessly from one party to the other.

"Once oligarchs seize power, Aristotle wrote, a society must either accept tyranny or choose revolution."

If he was right, what's your choice?

Yah, go with that since it ALWAYS works in America

Yah, go with that since it ALWAYS works in America

Never Underestimate Trump.

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"The culture wars give the oligarchs, both Democrats and Republicans, the cover to continue the pillage.

"There are few substantial differences between the two ruling political parties in the United States.

"This is why oligarchs like Donald Trump and Michael Bloomberg can switch effortlessly from one party to the other.

"Once oligarchs seize power, Aristotle wrote, a society must either accept tyranny or choose revolution."

What's your choice?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

"Aristotle, Niccolò Machiavelli, Alexis de Tocqueville, Adam Smith and Karl Marx grounded their philosophies in the understanding that there is a natural antagonism between the rich and the rest of us.

"The interests of the rich are not our interests.

"The truths of the rich are not our truths.

"The lives of the rich are not our lives.

"Great wealth not only breeds contempt for those who do not have it but it empowers oligarchs to pay armies of lawyers, publicists, politicians, judges, academics and journalists to censure and control public debate and stifle dissent."

In the link, Chris Hedges explains why the rich are happy to talk about race, sexual identity, gender, patriotism, religion, immigration, abortion, and gun control.

Because those issues divide the public into multiple warring tribes of culture combatants, and, in the process, demonstrating why malignant parasites like Trump and Bloomberg can switch effortlessly from one party to the other.

"Once oligarchs seize power, Aristotle wrote, a society must either accept tyranny or choose revolution."

If he was right, what's your choice?

More cut a pastes and zero original thoughts from Georgie. Pathetic. “Class” subjective.

 

[georgephillip]

The ONLY Dem candidate that has ANY class is Tulsi Gabbard. You're welcome.

Hopefully, Bernie will offer her Secretary of State?

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/tulsi...s-foreign-policy-a-disaster-in-latest-retort/

 

[JustAGuy1]

The only class Bernie has to offer is Class Warfare.

No thanks. Eight years of Obama was enough class warfare for me.

Obama was the best friend Wall Street has ever had. His side of the class war got steadily richer during the eight years he was in office, but all that will change if Bernie wins next November.

Class: The Little Word the Elites Want You to Forget

“Sanders’ democratic socialism is essentially that of a New Deal Democrat.'

"'His political views would be part of the mainstream in France or Germany, where democratic socialism is an accepted part of the political landscape and is routinely challenged as too accommodationist by communists and radical socialists.'

"'Sanders calls for an end to our foreign wars, a reduction of the military budget, for ‘Medicare for All,’ abolishing the death penalty, eliminating mandatory minimum sentences and private prisons, a return of Glass-Steagall, raising taxes on the wealthy, increasing the minimum wage to $15 an hour, canceling student debt, eliminating the Electoral College, banning fracking and breaking up agribusinesses. This does not qualify as a revolutionary agenda.'"

Then you're retarded.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The ONLY Dem candidate that has ANY class is Tulsi Gabbard. You're welcome.

Hopefully, Bernie will offer her Secretary of State?

https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/tulsi...s-foreign-policy-a-disaster-in-latest-retort/

LMAO -- I now see why you only cut and paste. Tulsi would never associate herself with Communist Sanders.