Zone1 Why Does the Universe Exist

[Thunk]

Could be from any sacred scripture that you want.

Remember...it's just a theory...

OK...here goes...

Imagine God is ALL.

Everything that exists...exists inside of God (Heaven, hell, planets, stars, ants, galaxies, you and I).

God would be unable to look in a mirror and see Himself. The mirror would have to be outside of God to cast a reflection back at Him (and nothing exists outside of God). It would be like having a mirror inside your body...it would do you no good.

Now God asks Himself (like we all do)...why do I exist? What is My purpose? (God created man in His own image...we all ask that question).

Since nothing exists outside of God...God must look inwards to find an answer.

So God gets an idea. He could create "man". A being with FREE WILL. A being who doesn't know God, but will come to know God. Now if God sees thru the eyes of man and hears thru his ears and feels his feelings...God will get to know & understand Himself.

That would explain why we are so Important to God. Why He would create the earth twice...just for us to live on.

We are Gods attempt to understand Himself and His purpose.

Just a theory...But barry mannilow sang of the same idea.

My home lies deep within you...and I've got my own place in your soul...

Now when I look out thru your eyes...I'm young again, even though I'm very old

 

[zaangalewa]

I fear you all are much too complicate. Try to see it more easy. The real important thing is not that god made the light and switched on the light or that god made us and will switch us off. The real important thing is:

Genesis 1,4: Und Gott sah, dass das Licht gut war.
Genesis 1,9: Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
Genesis 1,12: Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
Genesis 1,17: Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
Genesis 1,21: Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
Genesis 1,25: Und Gott sah, dass es gut war.
Genesis 1,31: Und Gott sah an alles, was er gemacht hatte, und siehe, es war sehr gut. Da ward aus Abend und Morgen der sechste Tag.

ah sorry:

Genesis 1,4: And God saw that the light was good.
Genesis 1,10: And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1,12: And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1,18: And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1,21: And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1,25: And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1,31: And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

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By the way: God also made Christmas. So perhaps it's a good idea to let him see that this was made good from him.



Hear the angels' bright songs
ring far along the field
and the mountains echo
Of heaven's song of praise.
Gloria in excelsis Deo.
Gloria in excelsis Deo.

Shepherds, why are we singing?
Tell us the reason for your rejoicing!
What victory has been won?
Which the choirs proclaim
Gloria in excelsis Deo.
Gloria in excelsis Deo.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Remember...it's just a theory...

OK...here goes...

Imagine God is ALL.

Everything that exists...exists inside of God (Heaven, hell, planets, stars, ants, galaxies, you and I).

God would be unable to look in a mirror and see Himself. The mirror would have to be outside of God to cast a reflection back at Him (and nothing exists outside of God). It would be like having a mirror inside your body...it would do you no good.

I've actually had a quite similar thought myself.

 

[ding]

In particular, what does the Bible say about why God created the universe? Please respond with a passage from the Bible explaining why God created the universe.

Why do you create things? Couldn't you use your experience as a creator as a proxy?

 

[ding]

The real important thing is not that god made the light

Actually it doesn't say God made the light. It says God created the heavens and the earth which most people take as God created the universe or existence. And then everything else is stated as "let there be" as in let there be light. Which is remarkably accurate as light did not appear until ~380,000 years after the universe popped into existence after it had cooled enough to allow radiation to decouple from matter. Until that point, the universe was opaque.

The Early Universe

 

[ding]

Imagine God is ALL.

I've actually had a quite similar thought myself.

That's pantheism.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Why do you create things? Couldn't you use your experience as a creator as a proxy?

I'm not an omnipotent spirit being so it's hard to relate to one. The human urge to create probably comes from a survival instinct. Was God facing imminent death?

 

[LeroyDumonde]

That's pantheism.

Yes. If you follow the logic of Idealism it's not hard to imagine the the universe itself is conscious.

 

[ding]

I'm not an omnipotent spirit being so it's hard to relate to one. The human urge to create probably comes from a survival instinct. Was God facing imminent death?

You don't need to be an omnipotent being. That's why it's a proxy. Survival instinct, huh? SMH

 

[ding]

Yes. If you follow the logic of Idealism it's not hard to imagine the the universe itself is conscious.

I don't believe the painter can be the painting, but that's just me.

 

[Moonglow]

In particular, what does the Bible say about why God created the universe? Please respond with a passage from the Bible explaining why God created the universe.

The Bible is not the only text written by earlier humans who inhabited the planet.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

I don't believe the painter can be the painting, but that's just me.

You're assuming that the universe is the painting. We can always do the "who created God" thing.

 

[ding]

You're assuming that the universe is the painting. We can always do the "who created God" thing.

The universe popped into existence and had a beginning. So, yes, I am assuming the universe is the painting. As for the what came before the first cause, the only solution to an endless chain of what came before that is some "thing" which has always existed and is unchanging.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

The universe popped into existence and had a beginning. So, yes, I am assuming the universe is the painting. As for the what came before the first cause, the only solution to an endless chain of what came before that is some "thing" which has always existed and is unchanging.

What makes you think the universe had a beginning?

 

[Moonglow]

Time destroys everything.

 

[LeroyDumonde]

Time destroys everything.

Does time destroy time?

 

[Anathema]

I don’t believe in any religious text. I believe that we are here merely to prove that our Souk can live a proper life,, regardless of all the temptations and hardships. Thats the only reason the Universe exists… to screw with us.

 

[ding]

What makes you think the universe had a beginning?

Red shift, cosmic background radiation, Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations, quantum mechanics, the First Law of Thermodynamics and the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

If the universe is expanding then it must have a beginning. If you follow it backwards in time, then any object must come to a boundary of space time. You cannot continue that history indefinitely.

Why do you believe the universe did not have a beginning?

 

[ding]

Does time destroy time?

I use to believe that time didn't exist. That time was just a convenient way of marking the expansion of the universe. Lately though, I have started to reconsider that. Time may be the only "thing" that exists.

 

[ding]

I'm not an omnipotent spirit being so it's hard to relate to one. The human urge to create probably comes from a survival instinct. Was God facing imminent death?

Let's say I found 25 ham sandwiches but didn't know who made them but that they were made in such a way that it appeared like it was the work of one person. Is there anything I could learn about that person from examining those ham sandwiches? If so, what would that be? Mind you I am not arguing that what you learned would be definitive but rather a list of possibilities. Possibilities that were based upon observation, experience and logic.

Because if you agree with me that there are things we could possibly learn from examining physical evidence by applying our experiences, knowledge and logic, then you ought to be able to come up with a list of possible answers to the question you asked in the OP.