why is the forum silent about this stupid idea of rehabilitating Alcatraz

[JoeB131]

Great,. I sure you can bring your whine to the 15,648 thread you guys have on the beauty of single payer healthcare.

I was countering extolling the presence of illegals in my state with the fact that we have to pay $9.5 billion for their healthcare alone. Not taking into account housing and food and education and ...

And how much value are they generating in labor and tax revenue? Probably more than they are taking, that's the point.

Here's the thing. We actually NEED immigrants. Our population would be shrinking without it, without enough new taxpayers to take care of those who are retiring.

 

[Rawley]

And how much value are they generating in labor and tax revenue? Probably more than they are taking, that's the point.

And yet you have no idea. That's the point. I know for a fact that we are spending $9.5B in their healthcare alone.

Here's the thing. We actually NEED immigrants. Our population would be shrinking without it, without enough new taxpayers to take care of those who are retiring.

We may need immigrants. But we certainly do not need illegal immigrants.

 

[Seymour Flops]

this whole idea seams corny and expensive. And isn't clint eastwood a little old to be swimming that channel

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5283792-trumps-reopen-alcatraz/

As fast as Trump is deporting the most vicious and violent of illegals, there are bound to be more administrative errors. If they were sent to Alcatraz for six months before final deportation, there would be a chance to catch such errors before it was too late.

A good thing, no?

 

[JoeB131]

And yet you have no idea. That's the point. I know for a fact that we are spending $9.5B in their healthcare alone.

Well, here's what we do know. 90% of the adult undocumented population works. Compared to only 63% of the native-born population. The rest are on Social Security, disability, living on mom's couch, etc.

You whine about a paltry 9.5 billion. We spend nearly a Trillion on Medicare, a half trillion on Medicaid, not to mention programs like SCHIFF, etc. We'd actually save money if we went to single payer, eliminated the bureaucratic overhead, and provided universal coverage.

We may need immigrants. But we certainly do not need illegal immigrants.

I agree. Let's make it easier for people to immigrate here, then no problem.

The thing is, when you make something illegal, you lose control of it

Used to be, before you guys started having a fantasy about "closing the border", Mexicans would come up, work for a season, and go home to their families.

Then you guys started making crossing the border a hassle, so people just brought their families with them and stayed.

 

[PeterPilot]

this whole idea seams corny and expensive. And isn't clint eastwood a little old to be swimming that channel

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5283792-trumps-reopen-alcatraz/

Agreed, it is just as silly as renaming the Gulf Of Mexico. It suggests that the perpetrator is into trivial things, not far off the senility scale from Joe Biden.

 

[Redfish]

this whole idea seams corny and expensive. And isn't clint eastwood a little old to be swimming that channel

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5283792-trumps-reopen-alcatraz/

much of what Trump says is to spin up you libtards, you proved that it is working.

 

[JoeB131]

much of what Trump says is to spin up you libtards, you proved that it is working.

Um, okay.

And if he were a stand up comedian or an asshole on Hate Radio or some Shit-poster on X, that would be fine.


The President is supposed to have more dignity, especially when if he says a stupid thing, that will send the markets into a tailspin.