Why Liberals Love the Collective

[ScienceRocks]

Gavin McInnes recently wrote a piece titled "Teamwork is Overrated." It is the epitome of why modern liberal ideology drags us all into mediocrity. Perhaps the best quote from the article is the following ...

“Only incompetent people love the team, and they love it because it makes it harder to discover their incompetence.”

This is liberal ideology in a nutshell. Enjoy Teamwork Is Overrated - Taki's Magazine

Whatever dingus you're deifying, he clearly never served in the military as part of a team. The Rambo, Army of One idea is utter nonsense. An individual is a liability, a teammate is an asset.

Our military is better trained than most. The best of the best become SEALS, for instance, so the mediocre are left behind.

It would be so nice if that were true for our school teachers, who rely on unions and collective bargaining. The losers just grab onto the coattails of the competent.

wow,

so because you think the unions are corrupt you want to kill public education for all of our children. DUMB!

 

[Publius1787]

Why don't you haters of the public sector go find a third world shit hole to live??? Maybe right next to the island all the haters of the private.

WE need them both!

Many of them are finding a nice third world shit hole to live in their efforts to escape the regulatory/tax burden. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Publius1787]

Whatever dingus you're deifying, he clearly never served in the military as part of a team. The Rambo, Army of One idea is utter nonsense. An individual is a liability, a teammate is an asset.

Our military is better trained than most. The best of the best become SEALS, for instance, so the mediocre are left behind.

It would be so nice if that were true for our school teachers, who rely on unions and collective bargaining. The losers just grab onto the coattails of the competent.

wow,

so because you think the unions are corrupt you want to kill public education for all of our children. DUMB!

I don't want to kill public education. Public education is doing a great job keeping everyone stupid, making it easier for educated and skilled people like me to get a job! Hail public sector education! I will gladly pay my property taxes as to keep the competition down for me and my family! Not only do I get daycare and an education supplement for what's learned at home for my children, but I get to test my kids against the public as well. Isn't it grand?

 

[OODA_Loop]

The man who thinks that he exemplifies glorious individualism in a world where everything you eat, wear and shelter under is the product of thousands of people is a narcissistic fool.

One can live from the output of their individual hand and not rely on the collective for sustenance.

The assertion there is no individualism because of the involvement of others in modern consumer society and production of goods is silly.

 

[Publius1787]

Yeah, you cock sucking republicans hate
-Police
-Fire department
-Tax payer paid infrastructure
-Our science programs from nasa to nws.
-SSI for our old and ssd for our disabled
-Education for all of our children.

Your world is a very sick one indeed.

I don't mind paying for local workers. I have the most control over them. That doesn't change the fact that if they were worth their weight in gold they would have been private sector successes. But they're not, and thus, the shame of government work is all they can aspire to.

 

[Publius1787]

Gavin McInnes recently wrote a piece titled "Teamwork is Overrated." It is the epitome of why modern liberal ideology drags us all into mediocrity. Perhaps the best quote from the article is the following ...

“Only incompetent people love the team, and they love it because it makes it harder to discover their incompetence.”

This is liberal ideology in a nutshell. Enjoy Teamwork Is Overrated - Taki's Magazine

some crazy shit here.


keep posting. it helps your opponents

Intelligent people criticize on the merits.

 

[Lumpy 1]

You would think the collective would be the best way to describe the GOP. Being 90% white and all.

One of the largest problems among the left is that they get culture confused with skin color. What if I were to reverse that statement and say that 94% of Blacks vote for Democrats? We cant say the same about whites now can we? Indeed, whites are far less likely to vote for Republicans than blacks are Democrats. Thus, by your very own standard, Black racists choose the Democrat Party. In any case, racism is a collective trait. See here >> [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdeI9NfbfT8]Ayn Rand - Racism - YouTube[/ame]

Actually, you are wrong. Whites that tend not to vote for Republicans do so because they are simply not welcome. Like gays and atheists and and scientists and college professors and women fighting for women's rights and people who have been hurt by GOP policies.. Lots of whites for many different reasons. Some are simply because they can't stomach GOP's ruinous and destructive policies.

All have been damaged by Democrat policies over the past 7 years, that is undeniable. All that Democrats can muster up is excuses and blame while having a minimum of 66.6 % of the federal elected power.. Recall that most of the Clinton years Democrats had Clinton which represented 33.3 % of the federal elected power yet Democrats give him 100% of the credit for the economy..

Saying that Democrats represent blacks, gays, women, families is ridiculous. Democrats use their voters like toilet paper to retain political power and have them submit to the government collective with lies, corruption and deteriorated moral leadership.

 

[bripat9643]

The collective is the very basis of human society, in this modern world we have the luxury/curse of being insulated from the rest of humanity and therefore ignorant of the armies of faceless people who make our self imposed isolation possible.

The man who thinks that he exemplifies glorious individualism in a world where everything you eat, wear and shelter under is the product of thousands of people is a narcissistic fool. Individualism is a luxury, removed from our comfortable homes and thrust into a bare survival situation we would have to learn to put the team first or perish.

What you're referring to is the division of labor, which makes humans vastly more productive than if they had to produce everything they consume themselves. How does that justify government? How does it justify SSI?

The simple fact is that it doesn't. Government simply isn't required for men to cooperate with other men or exchange the product of their labor with other men. Society is one thing. government is another. The latter is the monopoly on force and uses compulsion to achieve everything it does.

 

[LeftofLeft]

You would think the collective would be the best way to describe the GOP. Being 90% white and all.

Flashmobs and Knockout groups are Collectives.

 

[Publius1787]

The collective is the very basis of human society, in this modern world we have the luxury/curse of being insulated from the rest of humanity and therefore ignorant of the armies of faceless people who make our self imposed isolation possible.

The man who thinks that he exemplifies glorious individualism in a world where everything you eat, wear and shelter under is the product of thousands of people is a narcissistic fool. Individualism is a luxury, removed from our comfortable homes and thrust into a bare survival situation we would have to learn to put the team first or perish.

What you're referring to is the division of labor, which makes humans vastly more productive than if they had to produce everything they consume themselves. How does that justify government? How does it justify SSI?

The simple fact is that it doesn't. Government simply isn't required for men to cooperate with other men or exchange the product of their labor with other men. Society is one thing. government is another. The latter is the monopoly on force and uses compulsion to achieve everything it does.

You lost him at "division of labor." I also blame public education for this. If we taught economic literacy in schools or had economics as a requirement in college (Science based economics not arts based economics) then there would be far less liberals and inequality crybabies.

 

[1776]

Liberals like the collective because they are either weak, lazy or stupid themselves thus believe the collective will protect and take care of them from birth to death.

They point to the socialist societies that rose up from ruling class/monarchy societies and then try to paint the US like that when that is counter to our roots. The masses in China, Russia, England, etc have been ruled by monarchies through the ages so the masses grew accustomed to someone telling them what to do in life. Socialist societies where big brother rules their lives is just a replacement of the King/Warlord, plus everyone gets to feel the pain together except for the "ruling class" that never goes away in any society.

 

[Publius1787]

Liberals like the collective because they are either weak, lazy or stupid themselves thus believe the collective will protect and take care of them from birth to death.

They point to the socialist societies that rose up from ruling class/monarchy societies and then try to paint the US like that when that is counter to our roots. The masses in China, Russia, England, etc have been ruled by monarchies through the ages so the masses grew accustomed to someone telling them what to do in life. Socialist societies where big brother rules their lives is just a replacement of the King/Warlord, plus everyone gets to feel the pain together except for the "ruling class" that never goes away in any society.

How dare you clinch your hard earned money so tightly when there are poor people having children they cannot afford. Is it too much to ask that you pay for their irresponsibility?

 

[Votto]

The collective is the very basis of human society, in this modern world we have the luxury/curse of being insulated from the rest of humanity and therefore ignorant of the armies of faceless people who make our self imposed isolation possible.

The man who thinks that he exemplifies glorious individualism in a world where everything you eat, wear and shelter under is the product of thousands of people is a narcissistic fool. Individualism is a luxury, removed from our comfortable homes and thrust into a bare survival situation we would have to learn to put the team first or perish.

Look everyone, the letter King George mailed to the Founding Fathers.