Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron

[ScreamingEagle]

There is only one Islam.....this article explains why Obama will not refer to "radical Islam".....

At a time when terrorism committed in the name of Islam is rampant, we are continuously being assured—especially by three major institutions that play a dominant role in forming the Western mindset, namely, mainstream media, academia, and government—that the sort of Islam embraced by "radicals," "jihadis," and so forth, has nothing to do with "real" Islam.

"True" Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything "bad." It's the nut-jobs who hijack it for their own agenda that are to blame.

More specifically, we are told that there exists a "moderate" Islam and an "extremist" Islam—the former good and true, embraced by a Muslim majority, the latter a perverse sacrilege practiced by an exploitative minority.

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Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron

 

[irosie91]

according to the current model------"moderate" (real) vs "radical" (fake) islam------muhummad was not a muslim

 

[Pete7469]

During WW2 did we call germans who weren't actually fighting "moderate nazis"? Were german soldiers "radical nazis"?

Just because most carpet pilots prefer to live longer and not wage jihad, doesn't mean they're opposed to it. It just means they're not willing to fight and die.

I'm sure there are muzbots who hate how ISIS et al are turning the rest of the world against them, but until they get their cult in order the jihadists represent the direction islime is taking, which is war with the world.

 

[g5000]

During WW2 did we call germans who weren't actually fighting "moderate nazis"? Were german soldiers "radical nazis"?

False analogy.

 

[g5000]

Because of the KKK and the IRA and the South Carolina church shooter and other "radical Christians", does mean whenever we talk about Christians, we need to clarify we are talking about "moderate Christians"?

Or is the OP correct in saying "moderate Christian" is an oxymoron since the murderers of the KKK and IRA and so forth are not real Christians?

 

[BlindBoo]

Who thinks Catholics are not real Christians?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Because of the KKK and the IRA and the South Carolina church shooter and other "radical Christians", does mean whenever we talk about Christians, we need to clarify we are talking about "moderate Christians"?

Or is the OP correct in saying "moderate Christian" is an oxymoron since the murderers of the KKK and IRA and so forth are not real Christians?

another false analogy......the Christian Bible does not advocate violence and submission of non-believers...

 

[g5000]

Because of the KKK and the IRA and the South Carolina church shooter and other "radical Christians", does mean whenever we talk about Christians, we need to clarify we are talking about "moderate Christians"?

Or is the OP correct in saying "moderate Christian" is an oxymoron since the murderers of the KKK and IRA and so forth are not real Christians?

another false analogy......the Christian Bible does not advocate violence and submission of non-believers...

No more than the Quran does.

Do you even understand the point of the article you quoted in the OP? I was laughing my ass off thinking you didn't, based on your past posts.

Seems I was right.

 

[NYcarbineer]

There is only one Islam.....this article explains why Obama will not refer to "radical Islam".....

At a time when terrorism committed in the name of Islam is rampant, we are continuously being assured—especially by three major institutions that play a dominant role in forming the Western mindset, namely, mainstream media, academia, and government—that the sort of Islam embraced by "radicals," "jihadis," and so forth, has nothing to do with "real" Islam.

"True" Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything "bad." It's the nut-jobs who hijack it for their own agenda that are to blame.

More specifically, we are told that there exists a "moderate" Islam and an "extremist" Islam—the former good and true, embraced by a Muslim majority, the latter a perverse sacrilege practiced by an exploitative minority.

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Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron

There isn't even one Christianity.

 

[Jarhead]

I think the whole debate can be put to rest if someone...be it President Obama...or a candidate....says the following:

Radical Islam is at war with America. Radical Islam is at war with Christian Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Jewish Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Hindu Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Muslim Americans.

Being wrapped up in not insulting American Muslims is doing exactly what you are trying to avoid.....grouping Muslim Americans with radical Muslims.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This is how Hitler sold anti-semitism...create a narrative that certain Jews were bad, and then create a second narrative that lumped all Jews together.

Some things never change.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think the whole debate can be put to rest if someone...be it President Obama...or a candidate....says the following:

Radical Islam is at war with America. Radical Islam is at war with Christian Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Jewish Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Hindu Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Muslim Americans.

Being wrapped up in not insulting American Muslims is doing exactly what you are trying to avoid.....grouping Muslim Americans with radical Muslims.

He has said that. You just don't realize it because you're an ODS'er.

 

[Jarhead]

I think the whole debate can be put to rest if someone...be it President Obama...or a candidate....says the following:

Radical Islam is at war with America. Radical Islam is at war with Christian Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Jewish Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Hindu Americans. Radical Islam is at war with Muslim Americans.

Being wrapped up in not insulting American Muslims is doing exactly what you are trying to avoid.....grouping Muslim Americans with radical Muslims.

He has said that. You just don't realize it because you're an ODS'er.

actually, he has not said that. Never. Not once. You think he did because it makes sense that he should. But he hasn't.

He continually claims OTHERS are saying they are one in the same....or others may think they are one in the same.

 

[g5000]

This is how Hitler sold anti-semitism...create a narrative that certain Jews were bad, and then create a second narrative that lumped all Jews together.

Some things never change.

Actually, Hitler did not create a narrative that some Jews were bad. He said all Jews were bad right out of the gate in Mein Kampf. He talked about "world concepts" and then explained what he believed the world concept of Jews was, and that their concept was centered around Marxism.

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry.

Hitler then devoted the bulk of his book explaining his own world concept based on race, and explained that Germany must become as violent as possible toward all races, as this was a law of Nature, and must fight wars to gain territory. He particularly aimed his warring vitriol at France.

Hitler was so out there that he even scorned the "racialist" movement in Germany for not being violent enough. And for that reason, he made it clear in his book he did not want to be called a racialist. He thought they were wimps.

So those people who say "Islam is a religion of violence", and thus paint ALL Muslims with the same brush, are very much in line with Hitler's way of thinking.

Today, if you aren't extreme enough for modern day Nazis, they call you a "cultural marxist".

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Because of the KKK and the IRA and the South Carolina church shooter and other "radical Christians", does mean whenever we talk about Christians, we need to clarify we are talking about "moderate Christians"?

Or is the OP correct in saying "moderate Christian" is an oxymoron since the murderers of the KKK and IRA and so forth are not real Christians?

another false analogy......the Christian Bible does not advocate violence and submission of non-believers...

No more than the Quran does.

Do you even understand the point of the article you quoted in the OP? I was laughing my ass off thinking you didn't, based on your past posts.

Seems I was right.

do you even know who and what Muhammad was....?

 

[Syriusly]

There is only one Islam.....this article explains why Obama will not refer to "radical Islam".....

At a time when terrorism committed in the name of Islam is rampant, we are continuously being assured—especially by three major institutions that play a dominant role in forming the Western mindset, namely, mainstream media, academia, and government—that the sort of Islam embraced by "radicals," "jihadis," and so forth, has nothing to do with "real" Islam.

"True" Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything "bad." It's the nut-jobs who hijack it for their own agenda that are to blame.

More specifically, we are told that there exists a "moderate" Islam and an "extremist" Islam—the former good and true, embraced by a Muslim majority, the latter a perverse sacrilege practiced by an exploitative minority.

cont.
Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron

Around two million Muslims in the United States.

If they are all 'extermist' Muslims- why are we not seeing 2 million murders by Muslims in the United States a day?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

There is only one Islam.....this article explains why Obama will not refer to "radical Islam".....

At a time when terrorism committed in the name of Islam is rampant, we are continuously being assured—especially by three major institutions that play a dominant role in forming the Western mindset, namely, mainstream media, academia, and government—that the sort of Islam embraced by "radicals," "jihadis," and so forth, has nothing to do with "real" Islam.

"True" Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything "bad." It's the nut-jobs who hijack it for their own agenda that are to blame.

More specifically, we are told that there exists a "moderate" Islam and an "extremist" Islam—the former good and true, embraced by a Muslim majority, the latter a perverse sacrilege practiced by an exploitative minority.

cont.
Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron

Around two million Muslims in the United States.

If they are all 'extermist' Muslims- why are we not seeing 2 million murders by Muslims in the United States a day?

why didn't Syed Farook's father turn him in before he killed people.....?

 

[RodISHI]

It has been a month or so ago I posted some video's up about the gold Arab Dinar being released. I had tracked that to a company based somewhere in Australia. Anyhow not sure exactly where they post is located but I thought for those who are watching this video from United Patriots Front would be very interesting and one may want to keep up with the current things these guys are finding.
Look for this video title it tracks the money, very informative;
WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW

United Patriots Front

 

[Syriusly]

There is only one Islam.....this article explains why Obama will not refer to "radical Islam".....

At a time when terrorism committed in the name of Islam is rampant, we are continuously being assured—especially by three major institutions that play a dominant role in forming the Western mindset, namely, mainstream media, academia, and government—that the sort of Islam embraced by "radicals," "jihadis," and so forth, has nothing to do with "real" Islam.

"True" Islam, so the narrative goes, is intrinsically free of anything "bad." It's the nut-jobs who hijack it for their own agenda that are to blame.

More specifically, we are told that there exists a "moderate" Islam and an "extremist" Islam—the former good and true, embraced by a Muslim majority, the latter a perverse sacrilege practiced by an exploitative minority.

cont.
Why 'Moderate Islam' is an Oxymoron

Around two million Muslims in the United States.

If they are all 'extermist' Muslims- why are we not seeing 2 million murders by Muslims in the United States a day?

why didn't Syed Farook's father turn him in before he killed people.....?

Why didn't Syed Farook's father shoot everyone?

If they are all 'extermist' Muslims- why are we not seeing 2 million murders by Muslims in the United States a day?

 

[Vigilante]