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Moderates pick our presidents.....always have, always will
Moderates chose the fascist extremest currently occupying the white house? If so, what is the difference between "moderates" and "idiots?"
Is this a joke? Are you real equating your life in America right now to that of oppressed Germans in Nazi Germany?
Have people you know been thrown in the camps?
If Obama was a fascist,
we'd all have been in prison already for being so politically active.
Look "fascism" up in the dictionary PLEASE.
Moderates just can't be trusted. No one should ever trust a person who doesn't take a stand on anything.
Yes!
Let me add "Independents" too
Moderates and Independents take their stands in the voting booth and have more expensive campaign ads focused on them than any other group. No one can win a political race without getting their votes.
Secondly, Moderates and Independents form their own opinions, where as ideologues follow their ideology's orders.
I'm a Moderate/Independent, sometimes I vote GOP and sometimes I vote Dem. I voted for Reagan twice, George HW twice, Dole once, GWB once, Nader once (protest vote) and Obama once. AND, I have no intention of voting for Obama again. But what makes you think I want to be in the same tent with people who bash my independent thinking? I'd rather think on my own terms rather than have an ideology tell me how to vote.
Actually, those one the fringe are the unbalanced ones.
Is this a joke? Are you real equating your life in America right now to that of oppressed Germans in Nazi Germany?
So, are you on hallucinogens right now?
By stating the President is a fascist, you are implying you live in a fascist state. If you live in a fascist state, then you SHOULD see some paralells with the lives of Germans under Nazi Germany.
I highly doubt you are "oppressed" by the state to such an extent.
Have people you know been thrown in the camps?
My daughter went to band camp, but that was before I'd seen American Pie.
Inane statement. I meant that if the government was truly fascist it would have begun imprisoning dissidents by now in ordinance with fascist practice.
Obama is a fascist.
Read about fascism. Hell, there are literally message boards for fascists. I guarantee they hate Obama. And look at the definition below; Obama does not meet all of the criteria. Hell, fascism is even "anti-liberal".
we'd all have been in prison already for being so politically active.
Ah, you're ignorant and uneducated. You voted for Obama.
I did not vote for Obama, and I see no standard by which you can call me "igorant and uneducated" (because I disagree with you, perhaps? You must be infalliable, right?) . And yes, if Obama was a true fascist, we WOULD be in prison because silencing dissent and opposition to the state is a fundamental part of fascist theory.
Look "fascism" up in the dictionary PLEASE.
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power - Benito Mussolini
Say sparky, what if someone were to mandate that you had to buy products from certain, favored corporations? Let's call them "Blue Cross" and "Kaiser." What if they were going to use the most feared branch of the secret police, the dreaded IRS, to enforce the mandated purchase of those products AND as bill collectors for the well connected corporations? You know, basically merging federal and corporate power structures?
Imagine if there were a name for that....
Dare to think, sparky - dare to think......
As ridiculous as it sounds, the Fifth Congress passed something akin to an individual mandate in 1798. I don't hear them being called fascists by members now, do I? (Source: Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance -In 1798 - Forbes )
Calling the IRS "secret police" is ridiculous and really insults those who have been killed by actual secret police forces like the Gestapo and the Cheka. The IRS operates as a (comparatively) transparent institution and is not going to show up at your house in the middle of the night and shoot you for being a political dissident, or throw you into a forced labor institution without a fair trail.
Although I oppose the individual mandate, note that corporatism is not only inherent to fascist ideology. Many different ideologies have supported it in the past:
Wikipedia said:Corporatist types of community and social interaction are common to many ideologies, including: absolutism, capitalism, conservatism, fascism, liberalism, progressivism, reactionism, socialism, and syndicalism.[10]
Wikipedia said:Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] It advocates the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy including eugenics.[3]
Fascists seek to purge forces, ideas, people, and systems deemed to be the cause of decadence and degeneration, and to produce their nation's rebirth based on commitment to the national community based on organic unity, in which individuals are bound together by suprapersonal connections of ancestry, culture, and blood.[4] Fascists believe that a nation requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[5] Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the state.[6]
Fascism promotes violence and war as actions that create national regeneration, spirit and vitality.[7] It views conflict as a fact of life that is responsible for all human progress.[8] It exalts militarism as providing positive transformation in society, in providing spiritual renovation, education, instilling of a will to dominate in people's character, and creating national comradeship through military service.[9] Fascists commonly utilize paramilitary organizations for violent attacks on opponents, or to overthrow a political system.[10]
Fascism was founded during World War I by Italian national syndicalists who combined left-wing and right-wing political views, but fascism gravitated to the right in the early 1920s.[11][12] Italian Fascists described fascism as a right-wing ideology in the political program The Doctrine of Fascism.[13][14] Fascism is anti-anarchist, anti-communist, anti-conservative, anti-democratic, anti-individualist, anti-liberal, anti-parliamentary, anti-bourgeois and anti-proletarian.[15] It entails a distinctive type of anti-capitalism and is typically, with a few exceptions, anti-clerical.[16][17] It rejects egalitarianism, materialism, and rationalism in favour of action, discipline, hierarchy, spirit and will.[18]
In economics, fascists oppose liberalism (as a bourgeois movement) and Marxism (as a proletarian movement) for being class-based movements.[19] Fascists present their ideology as that of an economically trans-class movement that promotes resolving economic class conflict to secure national solidarity.[20] They support a regulated, multi-class, integrated national economic system.[21] Fascist economics supports the existence of private property, the existence of a market economy and the use of the profit motive.[22]
BTW, I decided to look up a more for a more comprehensive definition of Fascism for ya
Rather than addressing these annoying fuckers one at a time, let me make a blanket statement: If you're a political "Moderate" in 2011, you're either lying or a fucking moron.
The Government has control over every aspect of your life including your health, Social Security is totally broke, Congress shamelessly racks up annual trillion deficits like it was nothing and even though they did it for the wrong reasons, S&P Downgraded our credit.
If you can face that and say "Gee, I dunno if that's bad" you're either a Jake Starkey lying liberal or a moron.
There is no third option
Independents & moderates need to get their own candidates & party. The extremest from other parties keep pandering to them in the general only to tow the party line after the election. If you are a independent or moderate quit voting for democrats & republicans. Vote for your own candidates.
Actually, those one the fringe are the unbalanced ones.
A moderate is just a liberal who wants to die a slower death. Once you accept the shallow lie that government can solve problems you're just under the endless liberal snake charmer's casting more spells to convince you it can solve more of your problems.
The proof of this is our steady march into the hands of socialism, which is driven by the liberals and "moderates" with the only question being the speed we go down the toilet.
Moderates pick our presidents.....always have, always will
Moderates chose the fascist extremest currently occupying the white house? If so, what is the difference between "moderates" and "idiots?"
By stating the President is a fascist, you are implying you live in a fascist state.
If you live in a fascist state, then you SHOULD see some paralells with the lives of Germans under Nazi Germany.
Inane statement.
I meant that if the government was truly fascist it would have begun imprisoning dissidents by now in ordinance with fascist practice.
Read about fascism.
I did not vote for Obama,
and I see no standard by which you can call me "igorant and uneducated"
(because I disagree with you, perhaps? You must be infalliable, right?
And yes, if Obama was a true fascist, we WOULD be in prison because silencing dissent and opposition to the state is a fundamental part of fascist theory.
As ridiculous as it sounds, the Fifth Congress passed something akin to an individual mandate in 1798. I don't hear them being called fascists by members now, do I?
Calling the IRS "secret police" is ridiculous
The IRS operates as a (comparatively) transparent institution
or throw you into a forced labor institution without a fair trail.
By stating the President is a fascist, you are implying you live in a fascist state.
Obama is a fascist, that is a simply a matter of fact.
That you are ignorant and use a childish view of what fascism is and entails is irrelevant to the fact that Obama is a fascist and is pursuing a fascist agenda.
If you live in a fascist state, then you SHOULD see some paralells with the lives of Germans under Nazi Germany.
Again, you display abject ignorance.
Sweden has in the past had prime ministers who were socialists and pursued a socialist agenda, yet life in Sweden did not parallel North Korea.
Better than the level of your ignorance deserved.
That command economies degrade into authoritarian police states is axiomatic. Rarely does the police state precede or even parallel the establishment of a command economy.
I know more about fascism than you ever will. You don't even know what fascism is, you think "Inglorious Basturds" shows an accurate, academic portrayal of the economic system of fascism.
You have a childish, silly view point.
I'm surprised.
The level of ignorance you display generally ensures an Obama
Indeed.
Or perhaps because you speak on subjects you have absolutely no knowledge at all on.
Why is that? Because you saw in a movie where Nazis did that?
Again, you are simply ignorant and don't have an understanding of the terms you bandy about.
I could care less what you do or don't hear.
The merger of corporate and state power structure IS fascism - the actuality of such rather than the cartoon notion you hold.
I doubt anyone who has ever dealt with them would agree with you.
The IRS operates as a (comparatively) transparent institution
or throw you into a forced labor institution without a fair trail.
Are you out of your fucking mind?
Ever hear of "Innocent until proven guilty?" Give that a whirl with the IRS and see where you land. (Which would be Federal Prison.)
"Moderates" are Pussies. They just want to be liked. Never ever trust anyone who doesn't stand for anything.
Internet warriors are Pussies. They just want to push your buttons. Never trust anyone who confuses posting inflammatory opinions on the internet with actually standing for something.
So, we're only supposed to have just 1 view, with no chance of negotiation or compromise?
That's why we're in the mess we are now you fucking idiots........people like you voted for divided government.
Rather than addressing these annoying fuckers one at a time, let me make a blanket statement: If you're a political "Moderate" in 2011, you're either lying or a fucking moron.
The Government has control over every aspect of your life including your health, Social Security is totally broke, Congress shamelessly racks up annual trillion deficits like it was nothing and even though they did it for the wrong reasons, S&P Downgraded our credit.
If you can face that and say "Gee, I dunno if that's bad" you're either a Jake Starkey lying liberal or a moron.
There is no third option
Moderates just can't be trusted. No one should ever trust a person who doesn't take a stand on anything.
Yes!
Let me add "Independents" too
Rather than addressing these annoying fuckers one at a time, let me make a blanket statement: If you're a political "Moderate" in 2011, you're either lying or a fucking moron.
The Government has control over every aspect of your life including your health, Social Security is totally broke, Congress shamelessly racks up annual trillion deficits like it was nothing and even though they did it for the wrong reasons, S&P Downgraded our credit.
If you can face that and say "Gee, I dunno if that's bad" you're either a Jake Starkey lying liberal or a moron.
There is no third option
Moderates just can't be trusted. No one should ever trust a person who doesn't take a stand on anything.
Yes!
Let me add "Independents" too
Good. That will GUARANTEE electoral insignificance for you Rightie extremists
Actually, those one the fringe are the unbalanced ones.
A moderate is just a liberal who wants to die a slower death. Once you accept the shallow lie that government can solve problems you're just under the endless liberal snake charmer's casting more spells to convince you it can solve more of your problems.
The proof of this is our steady march into the hands of socialism, which is driven by the liberals and "moderates" with the only question being the speed we go down the toilet.
Sure thing there Skippy.........
You are an extremist loon..
