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each one would STILL have far more power (given a few nukes) than 95% of the rest of the world's countries. What is it that you don't like about the idea, hmm? maybe the split up would mean that you can't sit around on your arse, living off of other people? Maybe you could not feel "tough" while "your" troops go oppress other countries in your name? What makes you afraid of this outcome, hmm? Nobody attacks Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, dozens of other rich, small countries, even tho they AInT got nukes. A VERy few nukes suffice to guarantee that Isreal will never be attacked by any large group of people, in any organized fashion, and Isreal doesn't have nuke missiles, nor missile subs. The 8-10 smaller frags of the US could have a nuke missile sub EACH, and have a treaty to defend each other, too. there's nothing to be afraid of, except your own personal weakness and incompetence.
it's like driving miss daisy with you.No my AV my real picture, my blue pit and meIT DON'T MATTER IF IT WAS LEGAL OR NOT
God damn girl the UN is crap, no Fucking jurdisic system in the world is going to have any power to stop a bunch of states from going there own way if they gained more military power.
The legal crap is over.
so carbon is a female? might explain some of her posts. probably a bull dyke.
Then I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
We know which is the intelligent one of the two.
My offer is still on the table, IM me I will send you a plane ticket to Greenville SC one of the fastest rising cities in the south.
IT DON'T MATTER IF IT WAS LEGAL OR NOT
God damn girl the UN is crap, no Fucking jurdisic system in the world is going to have any power to stop a bunch of states from going there own way if they gained more military power.
The legal crap is over.
so carbon is a female? might explain some of her posts. probably a bull dyke.
Then I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
Why would I be in your family portrait? That looks like a park in upstate New York.
That's the KKK in Missouri. And I'm guessing you're the one with the cane on the left.
you are burning upset , you never been to Mississippi have you? The north west side have you?Hey I am I am offering you a free trip, since you are to Fucking poor to see the south today.
Red these children don't have a clue. They are so raised in poverty, so indoctrinated, they don't know what the rest of the country is doing, yet they continue to vote for democrats.so carbon is a female? might explain some of her posts. probably a bull dyke.
Then I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
Why would I be in your family portrait? That looks like a park in upstate New York.
That make their life's worse
Lets take a trip to Mississippi, shall we?
Its a Fucking disaster area still is thanks to democrats
The road by the Mississippi is still bad , but its not hillbillies that make it that way, guess again....
Biloxi Mississippi is the most beautiful place on earth
But you don't travel and don't have a clue
oh Fucking please, you never bothered to equate the power of the dollar in red states compared to blue states , dumb fuckit's like driving miss daisy with you.No my AV my real picture, my blue pit and meso carbon is a female? might explain some of her posts. probably a bull dyke.
Then I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
We know which is the intelligent one of the two.
My offer is still on the table, IM me I will send you a plane ticket to Greenville SC one of the fastest rising cities in the south.
According to the latest Census data, 9 of the 10 states with the lowest per-person income levels were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, Idaho, West Virginia, Kentucky, Utah, Alabama, South Carolina and Oklahoma.
The Census data also show that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median household income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.
And 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median family income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana and South Carolina.
The only Blue state on each list: New Mexico.
By the way, 9 of the 10 states with the highest per-person income voted Blue in the 2012 presidential race: Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington. The only Red state on the list: Alaska.
Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican PolitiFact Rhode Island
so carbon is a female? might explain some of her posts. probably a bull dyke.
Then I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
Why would I be in your family portrait? That looks like a park in upstate New York.
That's the KKK in Missouri. And I'm guessing you're the one with the cane on the left.
you are burning upset , you never been to Mississippi have you? The north west side have you?Hey I am I am offering you a free trip, since you are to Fucking poor to see the south today.
Red these children don't have a clue. They are so raised in poverty, so indoctrinated, they don't know what the rest of the country is doing, yet they continue to vote for democrats.Then I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
Why would I be in your family portrait? That looks like a park in upstate New York.
That make their life's worse
Lets take a trip to Mississippi, shall we?
Its a Fucking disaster area still is thanks to democrats
The road by the Mississippi is still bad , but its not hillbillies that make it that way, guess again....
Biloxi Mississippi is the most beautiful place on earth
But you don't travel and don't have a clue
I'm talking about the entire state. It is a disaster.
oh Fucking please, you never bothered to equate the power of the dollar in red states compared to blue states , dumb fuckit's like driving miss daisy with you.No my AV my real picture, my blue pit and meThen I'm going to assume you are in the photo below...
We know which is the intelligent one of the two.
My offer is still on the table, IM me I will send you a plane ticket to Greenville SC one of the fastest rising cities in the south.
According to the latest Census data, 9 of the 10 states with the lowest per-person income levels were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, Idaho, West Virginia, Kentucky, Utah, Alabama, South Carolina and Oklahoma.
The Census data also show that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median household income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.
And 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median family income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana and South Carolina.
The only Blue state on each list: New Mexico.
By the way, 9 of the 10 states with the highest per-person income voted Blue in the 2012 presidential race: Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington. The only Red state on the list: Alaska.
Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican PolitiFact Rhode Island
Again my smokes are $1.19 a pack for 20
No its not. The Russians all thought of themselves as Russian. The Soviet Union was not torn apart by tribalism.The United States is not the Soviet Union.
And that is not going to happen here.
and you know that how?
He knows it the same Gobachev and King George III knew it.
Show me the percentage of Americans who actively seek to dissolve the United States and you'll then know why it is not going to happen here.
You are stupid as shit, a born and raised Chicago guy for 38 year's, hence bearoh Fucking please, you never bothered to equate the power of the dollar in red states compared to blue states , dumb fuckit's like driving miss daisy with you.No my AV my real picture, my blue pit and me
We know which is the intelligent one of the two.
My offer is still on the table, IM me I will send you a plane ticket to Greenville SC one of the fastest rising cities in the south.
According to the latest Census data, 9 of the 10 states with the lowest per-person income levels were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, Idaho, West Virginia, Kentucky, Utah, Alabama, South Carolina and Oklahoma.
The Census data also show that 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median household income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma.
And 9 of the 10 states with the lowest median family income were Red: Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Louisiana and South Carolina.
The only Blue state on each list: New Mexico.
By the way, 9 of the 10 states with the highest per-person income voted Blue in the 2012 presidential race: Colorado, Connecticut, Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Virginia and Washington. The only Red state on the list: Alaska.
Pro-Democrat group says 9 of the 10 poorest states are Republican PolitiFact Rhode Island
Again my smokes are $1.19 a pack for 20
Here that, idiot NeoClowns? You can kill yourself for less in South Carolina. Yahoooo!
South Carolina ranks # 42 in education.
Alaska would be the state most likely to secede. Then possibly a combination of Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and a few more southern and central states.
And they make the attempt at their own risk.
Secession is patently illegal. Unconstitutional.
each one would STILL have far more power (given a few nukes) than 95% of the rest of the world's countries. What is it that you don't like about the idea, hmm? maybe the split up would mean that you can't sit around on your arse, living off of other people? Maybe you could not feel "tough" while "your" troops go oppress other countries in your name? What makes you afraid of this outcome, hmm? Nobody attacks Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, dozens of other rich, small countries, even tho they AInT got nukes. A VERy few nukes suffice to guarantee that Isreal will never be attacked by any large group of people, in any organized fashion, and Isreal doesn't have nuke missiles, nor missile subs. The 8-10 smaller frags of the US could have a nuke missile sub EACH, and have a treaty to defend each other, too. there's nothing to be afraid of, except your own personal weakness and incompetence.
IT DON'T MATTER IF IT WAS LEGAL OR NOTSuccessful like Mississippi? lol
Have you ever been to Mississippi? It is quite successful. New York city has more in poverty than MS.
would it matter if the succeeding states had more military power? You are not right.Their action would be neither legal nor constitutional. That's all I said. I am right.
That wouldn't make it legal or constitutional.
The British considered the declaration of independence an illegal act. Do you know anything?
Of course secession would be considered illegal, but so what?
Go argue with your many rightwing USMB pals who insist that secession is legal then.
God damn girl the UN is crap, no Fucking jurdisic system in the world is going to have any power to stop a bunch of states from going there own way if they gained more military power.
The legal crap is over.
Will the South rise again? I mean out of poverty. lol
Take a trip to Atlanta, Memphis, New Orleans, Birmingham, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, Orlando, Charleston, Lexington, Jackson, Biloxi, Baton Rouge, et al and then tell us how the south is in such terrible shape.
Then go to Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, cincinnatti, Gary Indiana, Cleveland.
then lets compare. Its not even close.
each one would STILL have far more power (given a few nukes) than 95% of the rest of the world's countries. What is it that you don't like about the idea, hmm? maybe the split up would mean that you can't sit around on your arse, living off of other people? Maybe you could not feel "tough" while "your" troops go oppress other countries in your name? What makes you afraid of this outcome, hmm? Nobody attacks Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Switzerland, dozens of other rich, small countries, even tho they AInT got nukes. A VERy few nukes suffice to guarantee that Isreal will never be attacked by any large group of people, in any organized fashion, and Isreal doesn't have nuke missiles, nor missile subs. The 8-10 smaller frags of the US could have a nuke missile sub EACH, and have a treaty to defend each other, too. there's nothing to be afraid of, except your own personal weakness and incompetence.
Go argue with your many rightwing USMB pals who insist that secession is legal then.
It doesn't matter if its legal or not, thats the point, idiot.
In fact, the constitutions of several states provide for secession from the USA, so it would be legal in those states.
Now, since you claim it would be illegal based on federal statutes, please cite the statute making secession illegal.
Secession is illegal because the states do not have the right ignore federal laws, any more than you do.
For starters, states are the residence of millions of US citizens. Their rights, protections, and responsibilities as US citizens cannot be arbitrarily erased by a state government.
US citizens can renounce their citizenship, a majority of the citizens of any state or states could do the same thing. It would not be illegal.
but since you think it would be, what court would enforce it?
Did a British court rule the declaration of independence illegal? Did it matter?
The members of the Sovereign Citizen movement have already declared themselves immune and exempt from any federal, state, and local laws that they don't approve of.
Are they? Have they legally 'seceded'?
It doesn't work that way, idiot. If they renounced their US citizenship they would have to leave the country. If they remain in the US they remain subject to its laws.
We are talking about states seceding, not individuals or groups of individuals
Its a throretical discussion because none of us really thinks its going to happen.
I think the idea of red-blue state falls apart quickly.The premise is ludicrous, but for the sake of argument, let's follow it through - red state and blue state America split into two countries.
Let's talk trade balance. What do red states produce that blue states need? Where is most of the wealth to begin with?
Blue states have computers, ipods, cars, and a good chunk* of the food - not to mention essentially all of the international markets.
What do you guys have?
*edited.
Like I said; "look, you almost learned something today."U.S. Liberals at Record 24 but Still Trail ConservativesTo what end?
Tyranny of the majority. Conservatives are in the minority at the national level. If they could create smaller countries, enclaves of conservatism so to speak,
they could become the majority in those new states and thus impose their will.
It's really what states' rights come down to.
look, you almost learned something today
Is that why President McCain is a two termer?
Alaska would be the state most likely to secede. Then possibly a combination of Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and a few more southern and central states.
And they make the attempt at their own risk.
what specifically do you see as the risk? Would the US govt send the army to kill the secessionists?
