Woke up this morning and we aren't at war with NK or Syria. What happened?

War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreed to our terms including the Native Americans.
Indian Wars: jc cannot logically answer that US broke dozens of treaties
Spanish American War: US declared war on Spain. The Maine incident was a boiler explosion, and jc admits that the Americans "intervened."
Iraq I: US had no obligation to go to war in Kuwait. Agrees with me that we aided the SAs. We had no obligation to do so.
Iraq II: US attacked Iraq after SH had agreed to almost every US demand


jc456 continues to lie and deny with "My point remains and unchallenged. the US has never started a war."

If he pulled this stunt in even a junior college class, he would get a failing grade. If he continued he would be barred from the classroom.
ahhhhhhh, can't find that war yet I see. do you need a tissue for your tears?
Thank you for your admission of defeat. :lol:
 
Indian Wars, War of 1812, Spanish American War, IndoChinese War, Iraq I, Iraq II. What is wrong with you?
we didn't start any of them friend. OMG,
the indians started killing settlers, or did you forget that? The US has never ever instigated a fight.
So when Santa Anna took down the alamo, you're saying we started that?
From Wkipedia-----"The Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have.

Oh and Iraq, attacked Kuwait. fk, why don't you all just fking learn something just once.

What strategic alliance did we have with Kuwait at the time that prompted such a response from the country who's ambassador famously said that we had no position on Arab/Arab conflicts just weeks before?

Why did President Bush declare it a surprise attack when he was fully aware of the brewing crisis between the two countries?

Why did the Press let him get away with those lies?

Who's faking who here ya faker?
sorry bubba, from Wikipedia:

"The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), codenamed Operation Desert Shield (2 August 1990 – 17 January 1991) for operations leading to the buildup of troops and defense of Saudi Arabia and Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991) in its combat phase, was a war waged by coalition forces from 35 nations led by the United States against Iraq in response to Iraq's invasion and annexation of Kuwait."

You can just write.....sorry!!!

We were an ally of Iraq at the time. Their dispute with Kuwait had been going on since the end of the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq had no gripe with the Saudi's and was not threatening them. So when we were asked what our position was, why didn't president Bush inform the Iraqis that we would defend Kuwait as if had a mutual defense pact with them?

But go ahead and believe your pasteurized history from Wikipedia if you want.
Odd ain't it, that we so repeatedly have to go in and take out former allies and operatives. Like Osama, as well. And now we're arming and training ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria while we provide cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualties in the field, to the Saudis to drop on Yemen.
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
 
Name any, there ya go, you're a tad slow aren't you love.
so you can't name any thanks. because there aren't any. The US has never started a war other than its own civil war. And even there, the states started it, not the feds.
Indian Wars, War of 1812, Spanish American War, IndoChinese War, Iraq I, Iraq II. What is wrong with you?
we didn't start any of them friend. OMG,
the indians started killing settlers, or did you forget that? The US has never ever instigated a fight.
So when Santa Anna took down the alamo, you're saying we started that?
From Wkipedia-----"The Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have.

Oh and Iraq, attacked Kuwait. fk, why don't you all just fking learn something just once.
OMG is right, alternative reality is something many want to never learn, but thanks anyway.
so my point is maintained. thanks. The US did not initiate any conflict.
All that was maintained is your willful ignorance, and you're on your own with that, society owes you nothing.
 
we didn't start any of them friend. OMG,
the indians started killing settlers, or did you forget that? The US has never ever instigated a fight.
So when Santa Anna took down the alamo, you're saying we started that?
From Wkipedia-----"The Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have.

Oh and Iraq, attacked Kuwait. fk, why don't you all just fking learn something just once.

What strategic alliance did we have with Kuwait at the time that prompted such a response from the country who's ambassador famously said that we had no position on Arab/Arab conflicts just weeks before?

Why did President Bush declare it a surprise attack when he was fully aware of the brewing crisis between the two countries?

Why did the Press let him get away with those lies?

Who's faking who here ya faker?
sorry bubba, from Wikipedia:

"The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), codenamed Operation Desert Shield (2 August 1990 – 17 January 1991) for operations leading to the buildup of troops and defense of Saudi Arabia and Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991) in its combat phase, was a war waged by coalition forces from 35 nations led by the United States against Iraq in response to Iraq's invasion and annexation of Kuwait."

You can just write.....sorry!!!

We were an ally of Iraq at the time. Their dispute with Kuwait had been going on since the end of the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq had no gripe with the Saudi's and was not threatening them. So when we were asked what our position was, why didn't president Bush inform the Iraqis that we would defend Kuwait as if had a mutual defense pact with them?

But go ahead and believe your pasteurized history from Wikipedia if you want.
Odd ain't it, that we so repeatedly have to go in and take out former allies and operatives. Like Osama, as well. And now we're arming and training ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria while we provide cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualties in the field, to the Saudis to drop on Yemen.
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
Right, the US fucking about in the middle east just began under Obama.
 
War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreed to our terms including the Native Americans.
Indian Wars: jc cannot logically answer that US broke dozens of treaties
Spanish American War: US declared war on Spain. The Maine incident was a boiler explosion, and jc admits that the Americans "intervened."
Iraq I: US had no obligation to go to war in Kuwait. Agrees with me that we aided the SAs. We had no obligation to do so.
Iraq II: US attacked Iraq after SH had agreed to almost every US demand


jc456 continues to lie and deny with "My point remains and unchallenged. the US has never started a war."

If he pulled this stunt in even a junior college class, he would get a failing grade. If he continued he would be barred from the classroom.
ahhhhhhh, can't find that war yet I see. do you need a tissue for your tears?
Thank you for your admission of defeat. :lol:
the record stands bubba. self glory such as you demonstrate merely shows your ignorance to the subject.
 
Name any, there ya go, you're a tad slow aren't you love.
so you can't name any thanks. because there aren't any. The US has never started a war other than its own civil war. And even there, the states started it, not the feds.
Indian Wars, War of 1812, Spanish American War, IndoChinese War, Iraq I, Iraq II. What is wrong with you?
we didn't start any of them friend. OMG,
the indians started killing settlers, or did you forget that? The US has never ever instigated a fight.
So when Santa Anna took down the alamo, you're saying we started that?
From Wkipedia-----"The Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have.

Oh and Iraq, attacked Kuwait. fk, why don't you all just fking learn something just once.
So either you are lying or you are uneducated. Just do some reading OK?

War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreed to our terms
Indian Wars: US broke dozens of treaties
Spanish American War: US declared war on Spain
Indochina War: US took up the French's burden
Iraq I: US had no obligation to go to war in Kuwait
Iraq II: US attacked Iraq after SH had agreed to almost every US demand
War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreed to our terms-- it was a result of the British infecting the native americans to fight against the settlers.
Indian Wars: US broke dozens of treaties-- what's that got to do with who started the war? The indians fought settlers moving into the territory.
Spanish American War: US declared war on Spain-From Wkipedia-----"The from Wikipedia-- "Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have."
Indochina War: US took up the French's burden--it's called alliance. you should look up that word.
Iraq I: US had no obligation to go to war in Kuwait, it was done for our Saudi Arabia alliance. Interest in oil in the gulf influenced by Iraq attacking Kuwait.
Iraq II: US attacked Iraq after SH had agreed to almost every US demand

My point remains and unchallenged. the US has never started a war.
You point indeed remains unchallenged, willful ignorance and corporate state indoctrination are no match for objective, known reality in american society.
 
so you can't name any thanks. because there aren't any. The US has never started a war other than its own civil war. And even there, the states started it, not the feds.
Indian Wars, War of 1812, Spanish American War, IndoChinese War, Iraq I, Iraq II. What is wrong with you?
we didn't start any of them friend. OMG,
the indians started killing settlers, or did you forget that? The US has never ever instigated a fight.
So when Santa Anna took down the alamo, you're saying we started that?
From Wkipedia-----"The Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have.

Oh and Iraq, attacked Kuwait. fk, why don't you all just fking learn something just once.
OMG is right, alternative reality is something many want to never learn, but thanks anyway.
so my point is maintained. thanks. The US did not initiate any conflict.
All that was maintained is your willful ignorance, and you're on your own with that, society owes you nothing.
well first, I have never asked for anything. thanks. and as far as you all showing data on conflicts initiated by the US well, you're at zero still.
 
so you can't name any thanks. because there aren't any. The US has never started a war other than its own civil war. And even there, the states started it, not the feds.
Indian Wars, War of 1812, Spanish American War, IndoChinese War, Iraq I, Iraq II. What is wrong with you?
we didn't start any of them friend. OMG,
the indians started killing settlers, or did you forget that? The US has never ever instigated a fight.
So when Santa Anna took down the alamo, you're saying we started that?
From Wkipedia-----"The Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have.

Oh and Iraq, attacked Kuwait. fk, why don't you all just fking learn something just once.
So either you are lying or you are uneducated. Just do some reading OK?

War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreed to our terms
Indian Wars: US broke dozens of treaties
Spanish American War: US declared war on Spain
Indochina War: US took up the French's burden
Iraq I: US had no obligation to go to war in Kuwait
Iraq II: US attacked Iraq after SH had agreed to almost every US demand
War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreed to our terms-- it was a result of the British infecting the native americans to fight against the settlers.
Indian Wars: US broke dozens of treaties-- what's that got to do with who started the war? The indians fought settlers moving into the territory.
Spanish American War: US declared war on Spain-From Wkipedia-----"The from Wikipedia-- "Spanish–American War (Spanish: Guerra hispano-estadounidense or Guerra hispano-americana; Filipino: Digmaang Espanyol-Amerikano) was a conflict fought between Spain and the United States in 1898. Hostilities began in the aftermath of the internal explosion of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in Cuba leading to United States intervention in the Cuban War of Independence." too funny. fake news from you all is all you all have."
Indochina War: US took up the French's burden--it's called alliance. you should look up that word.
Iraq I: US had no obligation to go to war in Kuwait, it was done for our Saudi Arabia alliance. Interest in oil in the gulf influenced by Iraq attacking Kuwait.
Iraq II: US attacked Iraq after SH had agreed to almost every US demand

My point remains and unchallenged. the US has never started a war.
You point indeed remains unchallenged, willful ignorance and corporate state indoctrination are no match for objective, known reality in american society.
You point indeed remains unchallenged,

I know.
 
What strategic alliance did we have with Kuwait at the time that prompted such a response from the country who's ambassador famously said that we had no position on Arab/Arab conflicts just weeks before?

Why did President Bush declare it a surprise attack when he was fully aware of the brewing crisis between the two countries?

Why did the Press let him get away with those lies?

Who's faking who here ya faker?
sorry bubba, from Wikipedia:

"The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), codenamed Operation Desert Shield (2 August 1990 – 17 January 1991) for operations leading to the buildup of troops and defense of Saudi Arabia and Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991) in its combat phase, was a war waged by coalition forces from 35 nations led by the United States against Iraq in response to Iraq's invasion and annexation of Kuwait."

You can just write.....sorry!!!

We were an ally of Iraq at the time. Their dispute with Kuwait had been going on since the end of the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq had no gripe with the Saudi's and was not threatening them. So when we were asked what our position was, why didn't president Bush inform the Iraqis that we would defend Kuwait as if had a mutual defense pact with them?

But go ahead and believe your pasteurized history from Wikipedia if you want.
Odd ain't it, that we so repeatedly have to go in and take out former allies and operatives. Like Osama, as well. And now we're arming and training ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria while we provide cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualties in the field, to the Saudis to drop on Yemen.
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
Right, the US fucking about in the middle east just began under Obama.
not a statement I made. thanks.
 
sorry bubba, from Wikipedia:

"The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991), codenamed Operation Desert Shield (2 August 1990 – 17 January 1991) for operations leading to the buildup of troops and defense of Saudi Arabia and Operation Desert Storm (17 January 1991 – 28 February 1991) in its combat phase, was a war waged by coalition forces from 35 nations led by the United States against Iraq in response to Iraq's invasion and annexation of Kuwait."

You can just write.....sorry!!!

We were an ally of Iraq at the time. Their dispute with Kuwait had been going on since the end of the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq had no gripe with the Saudi's and was not threatening them. So when we were asked what our position was, why didn't president Bush inform the Iraqis that we would defend Kuwait as if had a mutual defense pact with them?

But go ahead and believe your pasteurized history from Wikipedia if you want.
Odd ain't it, that we so repeatedly have to go in and take out former allies and operatives. Like Osama, as well. And now we're arming and training ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria while we provide cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualties in the field, to the Saudis to drop on Yemen.
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
Right, the US fucking about in the middle east just began under Obama.
not a statement I made. thanks.

Yeah, ya kinda did son.
 
We were an ally of Iraq at the time. Their dispute with Kuwait had been going on since the end of the Iran/Iraq war. Iraq had no gripe with the Saudi's and was not threatening them. So when we were asked what our position was, why didn't president Bush inform the Iraqis that we would defend Kuwait as if had a mutual defense pact with them?

But go ahead and believe your pasteurized history from Wikipedia if you want.
Odd ain't it, that we so repeatedly have to go in and take out former allies and operatives. Like Osama, as well. And now we're arming and training ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria while we provide cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualties in the field, to the Saudis to drop on Yemen.
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
Right, the US fucking about in the middle east just began under Obama.
not a statement I made. thanks.

Yeah, ya kinda did son.
my quote...."ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery."
so when did ISIS begin?

here is one version:

Finally Confirmed: US Created ISIS Terror Group

"From the first sudden, and quite dramatic, appearance of the fanatical Islamic group known as ISIS which was largely unheard of until a year ago, on the world's stage and which promptly replaced the worn out and tired al Qaeda as the world's terrorist bogeyman,"
 
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Odd ain't it, that we so repeatedly have to go in and take out former allies and operatives. Like Osama, as well. And now we're arming and training ISIS and al-Nusra in Syria while we provide cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualties in the field, to the Saudis to drop on Yemen.
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
Right, the US fucking about in the middle east just began under Obama.
not a statement I made. thanks.

Yeah, ya kinda did son.
my quote...."ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery."
so when did ISIS begin?



When did these amorphous, fluid, dynamic, ever changing “terrorist” alignments begin? The US can't even tell where one leaves off and the other picks up. When did we take out Iran's duly democratically govt? When did we begin occupying the middle east with no intention of leaving?
 
War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreThank you for your admission of defeat. :lol:
the record stands bubba. self glory such as you demonstrate merely shows your ignorance to the subject.
the record does not condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
he trecord does condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
 
yep it is stupid. I don't disagree. your point? ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery. wow!!!!
Right, the US fucking about in the middle east just began under Obama.
not a statement I made. thanks.

Yeah, ya kinda did son.
my quote...."ISIS was formed thanks to obummer and hitlery."
so when did ISIS begin?



When did these amorphous, fluid, dynamic, ever changing “terrorist” alignments begin? The US can't even tell where one leaves off and the other picks up. When did we take out Iran's dult democratically govt? When did we begin occupying the middle east with no intention of leaving?
wikipedia on al queda

Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia

"Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə/ or /ˌælkɑːˈiːdə/; Arabic: القاعدة‎‎ al-qāʿidah, Arabic: [ælqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base", "The Foundation" or "The Fundament" and alternatively spelled al-Qaida, al-Qæda and sometimes al-Qa'ida) is a militant Sunni Islamist multi-national organization founded in 1988[26] by Osama bin Laden, Abdullah Azzam,[27] and several other Arab volunteers who fought against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the 1980s.[28][29][30]"
 
War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreThank you for your admission of defeat. :lol:
the record stands bubba. self glory such as you demonstrate merely shows your ignorance to the subject.
the record does not condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
he trecord does condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
says the man with no data to support his position. thanks my man.

oh and it's 'the record'
 
War of 1812: US declared war after the British agreThank you for your admission of defeat. :lol:
the record stands bubba. self glory such as you demonstrate merely shows your ignorance to the subject.
the record does not condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
he trecord does condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
says the man with no data to support his position. thanks my man.
You have no idea what to do with data, c'mon.
 
the record stands bubba. self glory such as you demonstrate merely shows your ignorance to the subject.
the record does not condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
he trecord does condemn your silliness, jc. You simply have no concept of history.
says the man with no data to support his position. thanks my man.
You have no idea what to do with data, c'mon.
I know to post it up to make my point. which is exactly all I've been doing. you all, just bitching that you can't find data to disprove me. naany, naany boo boo.
 

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