WinterBorn
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The society I live in is based on numerous cultural influences. The fact that Christianity was the dominant force does not mean it was right. Forcing women into subjugation based solely on genitalia is ridiculous.
We agree on several things. Both parents are responsible for the care & protection of the child. Raise them right and the other issues are taken care of. I raised 3 children in my first marriage. They were teens when their mother and I divorced. Unlike typical divorces, our children still came first after we split. The kids were not subject to the tug-of-war so divorced parents create. And our kids turned out to be well adjusted and productive members of society.
The relationship between my 2nd wife and her ex was the opposite. And it caused a great deal of grief for our daughter. And yes, she acted out because of some of those issues. That did not change the fact that we was loved and protected in our house. Today she is a college graduate with a career. She has done little or no experimenting with drugs (except a little pot, as she told me). She graduated high school with honors. She has had a few long term relationships, but was never a partygirl. She is well adjusted and doing great.
The proof is in the pudding.
As far as the alpha male stuff, whichever is better at a given thing should be the one in charge of it in a marriage. My current partner is very organized. I am not. So she handles the organization and calendar for us. We don't fight over it. I am not less of a man because I recognize her talents.
A couple of questions for you concerning you being the man in charge and the wife being subservient.
1) If you want sex and she doesn't, does your alpha male, head of the household status hold sway?
2) If she works outside the home, is it a problem if she makes more money than you?
3) Is she allowed to have male friends?
I can see you love to argue. The fact that America was founded on Christian principles does not make it wrong. If you look objectively at when this country prospered the most, it was when the nation revered God the most.
1) Forcing your wife to have sex with you is rape. If with-holding sex is a continual thing, it is grounds for divorce
2) Personally, my wife makes more money than me. Is it a problem for me? Not really. OTOH, my wife and I had an argument that went into yesterday. I have good credit and she doesn't. She wants a new car and I refused to co-sign as doing so reduces my ability to borrow money since I'm responsible for a $500 a month car payment.
I had bought a fixer upper to flip. Without my line of credit, I've got a pig in a poke. Now, had my wife worked with me to get that place on the market, she would have enough today to pay cash for the car. She believes the way you do. In my opinion, it wasn't a sound decision on her part to be half married
3) I think your third question is one that couples should have a discussion about BEFORE they say I do. If you do a little premarital counseling, it might help the couple decide if they really want to be married to each other. Unfortunately, that is only true IF both parties are honest with themselves and their counselor.
I love to make my point.
The fact that something was always done that way does not make it right.
I do not see a connection between when we prospered and belief in God. I certainly do not believe that God cares about nations over people.
Your ignorance does not add up to facts.
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So you believe God blesses individual nations, and ignores the prayers and pleas of individuals?
On this topic I think there are very few verifiable facts. There are beliefs.
I believe God will answer the prayers of many individuals within this nation, and then some!
I know that we all pray for the same thing. True story.
As do residents of many nations.