You Didn't Build That: Readings from the Book of Barack

[Pho_King]

Health Care medical bills, the number one cause of bankruptcy. Republicans think that's great. It's why they want to end Medicare. We obviously need more bankruptcy and more people suffering. What a sadistic bunch.

That is nonsense (link?).

The number one cause of bankruptcy is too much debt and not enough income. The Obamacare propagandists use any doctor's bill on a BK list as proof that it was health care spending that caused the BK.

Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - Businessweek


Medical problems caused 62% of all personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. in 2007, according to a study by Harvard researchers. And in a finding that surprised even the researchers, 78% of those filers had medical insurance at the start of their illness, including 60.3% who had private coverage, not Medicare or Medicaid.

Medically related bankruptcies have been rising steadily for decades. In 1981, only 8% of families filing for bankruptcy cited a serious medical problem as the reason, while a 2001 study of bankruptcies in five states by the same researchers found that illness or medical bills contributed to 50% of all filings. This newest, nationwide study, conducted before the start of the current recession by Drs. David Himmelstein and Steffie Woolhandler of Harvard Medical School, Elizabeth Warren of Harvard Law School, and Deborah Thorne, a sociology professor at Ohio University, found that the filers were for the most part solidly middle class before medical disaster hit. Two-thirds owned their home and three-fifths had gone to college.

But medically bankrupt families with private insurance reported average out-of pocket medical bills of $17,749, while the uninsured's bills averaged $26,971. Of the families who started out with insurance but lost it during the course of their illness, medical bills averaged $22,658. "For middle-class Americans, health insurance offers little protection. Most of us have policies with so many loopholes, co-payments, and deductibles that illness can put you in the poorhouse," said lead author Himmelstein. "Unless you're Warren Buffett, your family is just one serious illness away from bankruptcy."

A number of problems here. First, is the contention that medical debt causes bankruptcy. That is a fabricated claim. Damn near every person in bk has loads of various types of debt. You then provide an analysis of the Harvard study that concludes that 62% of bks are caused by medical problems. While I strongly doubt that assertion, that is very different from stating that medical debt caused the bks. Illness causes loss of job, loss of income. And also debt. But most filers have as much or more credit card debt than medical debt. Bankruptcies are caused, 100% of the time, by having too much debt. Lots of things contribute to that. Illness, divorce, job loss, overspending, etc.

 

[Dr.House]

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." - Barry 0bama

Let's face it... That statement was Barry's "Dukakis In A Tank" moment in this campaign...

 

[Zoom-boing]

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." - Barry 0bama

Let's face it... That statement was Barry's "Dukakis In A Tank" moment in this campaign...

or this:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwODbl3muE]Howard Dean - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Oldstyle]

The big problem with Barack Obama's "...you didn't build that!" speech is that he went off "script" and showed us all exactly how he feels about the Private Sector. It's the same thing he did when he said several weeks ago that the Private Sector was "fine" and that it was the Public Sector that we needed to concentrate on. It's a problem because it shows us "why" this Administration isn't trusted by the business community. They don't like him because he doesn't respect what they do.

This is a President who has no business background...one that has zero experience building a business or keeping one open during tough times. His background is firmly rooted in the culture of entitlement...from the Affirmative Action initiatives that got him into Columbia and Harvard Law, to the political climate at Harvard that got him appointed President of the Law Review (not because of quality of his work but because of the color of his skin), to the six figure book deal, prestigious law job and university lecturer position he received because of being named President of the Law Review...to the legislation that he was hand fed by Emile Jones in the Illinois Senate...to the Nobel Peace Prize that he was given before he DID anything.

Barack Obama doesn't think anyone succeeds because of their own hard work because it goes counter to HIS life experiences. "He" succeeded because things were given to him. He assumes that was the case with everyone.

 

[Lakhota]

Romney To Olympians: 'You Didn't Get Here Solely On Your Own' | ThinkProgress

 

[Oldstyle]

The difference between "Olympians" and business owners is a rather substantial one, Lakhota and a rather laughable comparison.

Most Olympians struggle to pay the bills while they spend years training intensively. They ARE helped by family and their communities because they don't have the time to work. People that start businesses typically devote themselves totally TO those businesses working long hours to make them thrive.

Trust "Think Progress" to come up with such a stupid quote to try and mitigate the damage that Barry has done to himself with his flagrant disregard for what small business owners deal with on a daily basis.

 

[Dr.House]

Shitting Bull gets paid for every link to UnthinkingNoprogress....

 

[Jarhead]

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

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He's right.

that "somebody else" is there for everyone.

The fact that some capitalize on it by taking risks and putting in longer than "union forced" hours means that that person built the company.

Otherwise EVERYONE would be a bsuiness owner.

So he was wrong.

As usual.

 

[Jarhead]

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." - Barry 0bama

Let's face it... That statement was Barry's "Dukakis In A Tank" moment in this campaign...

Actually, "whats wrong with spreading the wealth a little" was Obamas Dukakis in a tank moment....but sadly the left made it a Joe the Plumber issue and a racist issue if you took offense to what he said

 

[boedicca]

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." - Barry 0bama

Let's face it... That statement was Barry's "Dukakis In A Tank" moment in this campaign...

Actually, "whats wrong with spreading the wealth a little" was Obamas Dukakis in a tank moment....but sadly the left made it a Joe the Plumber issue and a racist issue if you took offense to what he said

It's far more than just a Dukakis moment.

It’s as if President Obama climbed into a tank, put on his helmet, talked about how his foray into Cambodia was seared in his memory, looked at his watch, misspelled “potato” and pardoned Richard Nixon all in the same day.

Defining Moments - Ricochet.com

 

[rdean]

Your funny bone is broken, hun.

Get on the waiting list for Obamacare.

Health Care, the number one cause of bankruptcy. Republicans think that's great. It's why they want to end Medicare. We obviously need more bankruptcy and more people suffering. What a sadistic bunch.

Quit lying that was debunked.

What was "debunked"? Make it good. I have "facts".

 

[rdean]

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

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He's right.

You should make that Obama quote your new signature all the way til election day.

Good idea. It's smart. It's right. Only an idiot would disagree.

 

[rdean]

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

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He's right.

No he's not, because while you get help in life, you also get credit for your success. What was the point of his quote? I mean in an action sense, why make that quote?

The point of the quote was "you have to support the country". Republicans call that "socialism".

 

[rdean]

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.

So if you are unsuccessful, no one along the line gave you some help.

There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.

There was a great teacher in no one else's life?



Someone helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed EVERYONE to thrive. This system was not kept from anyone. Everyone has access to it.





For everyone. Everyone has access to the roads and bridges.



Really? Who?



The internet is available to everyone. No one is denied access to it.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

The point is, if you fail, it is because you did not do what it takes to succeed and the other guy did. Simple as that. Eat it.

He's right.

He's completely wrong.

Talk about "fail". You didn't make any sense.

 

[rdean]

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

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He's right.

So you acknowledge that Obama didn't get OBL "on his own", he had help along the way via Georgie and the previous administration. Good for you for seeing that light!

He could have gotten help from George. If George hadn't stopped looking for Bin Laden, stopped thinking about him and closed down the unit that was supposed to look for him.

 

[rdean]

No matter what Obama takes credit for in debates, be it saving General Motors or Killing OBL, all Romney needs to counter, " you did not do that on your own, Mr. President."

Obama never said he did it by himself. But at least you admit it was Obama that saved General Motors and took out OBL.

 

[rdean]

"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen." - Barry 0bama

Let's face it... That statement was Barry's "Dukakis In A Tank" moment in this campaign...

Actually, "whats wrong with spreading the wealth a little" was Obamas Dukakis in a tank moment....but sadly the left made it a Joe the Plumber issue and a racist issue if you took offense to what he said

It's far more than just a Dukakis moment.

It’s as if President Obama climbed into a tank, put on his helmet, talked about how his foray into Cambodia was seared in his memory, looked at his watch, misspelled “potato” and pardoned Richard Nixon all in the same day.

Defining Moments - Ricochet.com

http://www.usmessageboard.com/polit...gs-from-the-book-of-barack-2.html#post5670585

Did you notice that someone answered your accusation? I wasn't going to reply because you sit in front of the Internet and are too God Damned Fucking stupid to go look something up. What the hell is wrong with you? Are you a "fool"? You need to be slapped - hard.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Considering Papa Obama's
background of radical associates and
membership in a radical church of 20 years

it is no surprise, he says and believes such things

Not really in sync with the rest of the US

 

[PredFan]

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

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He's right.

I love it every time a looney leftie brings this up. It's hilarious to see the Obama sycophants trying desperately to spin this into something it clearly isn't.

Obama is dead wrong.

 

[PredFan]

Your funny bone is broken, hun.

Get on the waiting list for Obamacare.

Health Care, the number one cause of bankruptcy. Republicans think that's great. It's why they want to end Medicare. We obviously need more bankruptcy and more people suffering. What a sadistic bunch.

Quit lying that was debunked.

Without lies, deanie would have nothing.