1000 Americans, including Biden are banned from visiting Russia….Trump is not on the list

[kyzr]

They didn't renege on it, they were working to reach their goal, each year getting increasingly closer.

Back room negotiations and diplomacy have a purpose.

And Trump beefing up Putin and giving him an ounce of strength or bolstering, was in no way good for America or our allies....silly one! You are all messed up!

1. They were not meeting it. Therefore they reneged on it.
2. Bad faith negotiations don't work with liars and deadbeats.
3. Trump stopped NordStream 2 dumbass. Biden opened it. You only know lies. (beefing up Putin??)

 

[kyzr]

Haha, what an amazing idea!. Why has nobody thought of it?

What else is he going to do? Suggest we have an infrastructure bill, finally?

So you are suggesting Trump is going to do exactly what we are already doing. I had no idea you had such admiration for Joe Biden.

Biden is doing nothing but burning US cash in Ukraine.

 

[Care4all]

1. So what does Putin want exactly? ANS: All of Ukraine

2. So what would Trump/NATO be willing to give for peace exactly? ANS: Crimea and Donbas

3. What would Trump do if Putin says "no deal"? Put the economic screws on Russia.

Geez, Putin doesn't want all of Ukraine....he only wants the Donbas and Crimea, so YOU are appeasing him and giving Putin ALL THAT HE WANTS....

after he murdered, raped, kidnapped the children of, and destroyed the schools, hospitals, electric plants, businesses, Churches, homes and neighborhoods of the Ukrainians.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Biden is doing nothing but burning US cash in Ukraine.

Yes, someone on Putin's side would say that. .

Now tell us what else Trump will do that is already being done. What is he, a 7th grader cheating off Bidens test? He is a moron.

 

[rightwinger]

1. So what does Putin want exactly? ANS: All of Ukraine

2. So what would Trump/NATO be willing to give for peace exactly? ANS: Crimea and Donbas

3. What would Trump do if Putin says "no deal"? Put the economic screws on Russia.

What Putin wants is to be given all captured territory with no further contest and be able to rebuild his military

Trump will give him just that

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What Putin wants is to be given all captured territory with no further contest and be able to rebuild his military

So he can finish the job without the pesky West getting in his way.

One would have to be a fool to believe Putin, if he says he will take what he has stolen so far and leave Ukraine alone.

 

[Failzero]

Is Michael Savage or Bernie Sanders on teh List

 

[kyzr]

Geez, Putin doesn't want all of Ukraine....he only wants the Donbas and Crimea, so YOU are appeasing him and giving Putin ALL THAT HE WANTS....

after he murdered, raped, kidnapped the children of, and destroyed the schools, hospitals, electric plants, businesses, Churches, homes and neighborhoods of the Ukrainians.

1. Putin has Donbas and Crimea, so why is he fighting? Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

2. So you want to keep sacrificing Ukrainian lives and US cash? Hint: The US has no more spare cash

3. Trump said he would end the war quickly. Then Ukraine gets into NATO to secure them from further threats.

4. You type lies. Try researching the truth.

Restoration of empire is the endgame for Russia's Vladimir Putin | CNN

Reading Russian President Vladimir Putin's mind is rarely a straightforward task, but on occasion the Kremlin leader makes it easy.

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Restoration of empire is the endgame for Russia’s Vladimir Putin​

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

2. So you want to keep sacrificing Ukrainian lives and US cash? Hint: The US has no more spare cash

So you want Putin to acheive his goals?

 

[kyzr]

Yes, someone on Putin's side would say that. .

Now tell us what else Trump will do that is already being done. What is he, a 7th grader cheating off Bidens test? He is a moron.

1. Biden has no end to the war, he only wastes US cash.

2. Trump will end the war and get Ukraine into NATO.

3. Biden is so senile he has no clue where he is or what he is doing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Biden has no end to the war, he only wastes US cash.

And your proposal to end the war is to give Putin what he wants.

Which of course also will not end the war and will lead to much more war in the future.

So you don't have a leg to stand on, there.

 

[kyzr]

So you want Putin to achieve his goals?

1. Crimea was part of Russia before 1954, so Ukraine loses nothing, Putin gains nothing.
2. Donbas is a Russian speaking wasteland, part of Russia since 2014, good riddance
3. Keeping Ukraine from Putin is a win, he wants ALL of Ukraine.

Restoration of empire is the endgame for Russia's Vladimir Putin | CNN

Reading Russian President Vladimir Putin's mind is rarely a straightforward task, but on occasion the Kremlin leader makes it easy.

www.cnn.com

Restoration of empire is the endgame for Russia’s Vladimir Putin​

 

[kyzr]

And your proposal to end the war is to give Putin what he wants.

Which of course also will not end the war and will lead to much more war in the future.

So you don't have a leg to stand on, there.

see post #132

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

1. Crimea was part of Russia before 1954, so Ukraine loses nothing, Putin gains nothing.

What freakish propaganda, devoid of morality or ethics.

"Before 1954"

So, 70 years. If Putin gains nothing, why did he do it?

It's just mindbnumbingly dumb and amoral in every level.

I will just let it stand for itself.

Trump and his supporters clearly tell us who they are, if we just pay attention.

 

[rightwinger]

1. Putin has Donbas and Crimea, so why is he fighting? Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

2. So you want to keep sacrificing Ukrainian lives and US cash? Hint: The US has no more spare cash

3. Trump said he would end the war quickly. Then Ukraine gets into NATO to secure them from further threats.

1. Putin has Donbas and Crimea, so why is he fighting? Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

Putin keeps fighting because Ukraine is pounding his troops for contested territory. If he could keep what he has, he would

2. So you want to keep sacrificing Ukrainian lives and US cash? Hint: The US has no more spare cash

We spend $875 billion a year on our military. We spent $2 trillion in Afghanistan.
Ukraine wants to keep fighting

3. Trump said he would end the war quickly. Then Ukraine gets into NATO to secure them from further threats.

Only path for Trump to end the war quickly is to surrender Donbas and Crimea. Putin will never agree to Ukraine in NATO, that was one of his justifications for invading

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

1. Putin has Donbas and Crimea, so why is he fighting? Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

Putin keeps fighting because Ukraine is pounding his troops for contested territory. If he could keep what he has, he would

2. So you want to keep sacrificing Ukrainian lives and US cash? Hint: The US has no more spare cash

We spend $875 billion a year on our military. We spent $2 trillion in Afghanistan.
Ukraine wants to keep fighting

3. Trump said he would end the war quickly. Then Ukraine gets into NATO to secure them from further threats.

Only path for Trump to end the war quickly is to surrender Donbas and Crimea. Putin will never agree to Ukraine in NATO, that was one of his justifications for invading

Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

He knows.

What he won't say directly is that he is fine with Putin taking all of Ukraine. He instead says things like ' Ukrainians are wasting their lives fighting the murderous maniac who wants to kill them and take their country'.

He will tell you who he is. If you listen closely.

 

[kyzr]

What freakish propaganda, devoid of morality or ethics. "Before 1954"
So, 70 years. If Putin gains nothing, why did he do it?
It's just mindbnumbingly dumb and amoral in every level. I will just let it stand for itself.
Trump and his supporters clearly tell us who they are, if we just pay attention.

1. He did it because he thought he would capture Kiev in 3-days.
2. It stands for itself, you just don't understand it.
3. Trump will stop wasting US cash on a war that just wastes lives and cash.

You whine a lot but have no real solutions, neither does Biden or Harris.

 

[rightwinger]

Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

He knows.

What he won't say directly is that he is fine with Putin taking all of Ukraine. He instead says things like ' Ukrainians are wasting their lives fighting the murderous maniac who wants to kill them and take their country'.

He will tell you who he is. If you listen closely.

I think Putin blew his chance to capture all of Ukraine.
He no longer has the forces or equipment to take it.

 

[Lakhota]

Helps being a strong supporter of Putin

MSN

Shows the benefit of declaring Putin a Genius

Putin protects his little NaziCon buddy.

 

[kyzr]

1. Putin has Donbas and Crimea, so why is he fighting? Hint: he wants all of Ukraine

Putin keeps fighting because Ukraine is pounding his troops for contested territory. If he could keep what he has, he would

2. So you want to keep sacrificing Ukrainian lives and US cash? Hint: The US has no more spare cash

We spend $875 billion a year on our military. We spent $2 trillion in Afghanistan.
Ukraine wants to keep fighting

3. Trump said he would end the war quickly. Then Ukraine gets into NATO to secure them from further threats.

Only path for Trump to end the war quickly is to surrender Donbas and Crimea. Putin will never agree to Ukraine in NATO, that was one of his justifications for invading

1. Putin thinks he can still win all of Ukraine. He has lots of oil & gas to sell to China.

2. Ukraine wants to keep fighting, we need to stop the war.

3. True, Putin doesn't want Ukraine in NATO, but he didn't want Sweden in NATO either. That's his punishment for invading.