15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

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So Ding-a-Ling has No answer to the simple fact.

There's evidence you're spiritual/delusional, but NO evidence there's an object of your beliefs, nor all the contrary ones.
You are a logical disaster/cumstain.
There is overwhelming evidence for Evolution though.

IOW, you cannot prove, or even show EVIDENCE of a god .
While I can show overwhelming EVIDENCE for evolution

Your posts are Delusional distraction/Deflections from that simple fact.

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Existence is evidence of God, dummy.

Didn't I already say like two times that God and evolution are not mutually exclusive?

 

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but NO evidence there's an object of your beliefs

You mean besides the physical laws of nature, the biological laws of nature and the moral laws of nature?

I thought I already explained this to you. Oh well, I guess I'll have to do it again. Oh bother...

It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit it should be obvious that the creation of the material world was intentional. After all in my perception of God, God is no thing and the closest thing I can relate to is a mind with no body. Using our own experiences as creators as a proxy, we know that when we create things we create them for a reason and that reason is to serve some purpose. So it would be no great leap of logic to believe that something like a mind with no body would do the same. We also know from our experiences that intelligence tends to create intelligence. We are obsessed with making smart things. So what better thing for a mind with no body to do than create a universe where beings with bodies can create smart things too.



We have good reason to believe that we find ourselves in a universe permeated with life, in which life arises inevitably, given enough time, wherever the conditions exist that make it possible. Yet were any one of a number of the physical properties of our universe otherwise - some of them basic, others seemingly trivial, almost accidental - that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere. It takes no great imagination to conceive of other possible universes, each stable and workable in itself, yet lifeless. How is it that, with so many other apparent options, we are in a universe that possesses just that peculiar nexus of properties that breeds beings that know and create.



The biological laws are such that life is programmed to survive and multiply which is a requisite for intelligence to arise. If the purpose of the universe was to create intelligence then a preference in nature for it had to exist. The Laws of Nature are such that the potential for intelligence to existed the moment space and time were created. One can argue that given the laws of nature and the size of the universe that intelligence arising was inevitable. One can also argue that creating intelligence from nothing defies the Second Law of Entropy. That creating intelligence from nothing increases order within the universe. It actually doesn't because usable energy was lost along the way as a cost of creating order from disorder. But it is nature overriding it's tendency for ever increasing disorder that interests me and raises my suspicions to look deeper and to take seriously the proposition that a mind without a body created the material world so that minds with bodies could create too.



If we examine the physical laws we discover that we live in a logical universe governed by rules, laws and information. Rules laws and information are a signs of intelligence. Intentionality and purpose are signs of intelligence. The definition of reason is a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event. The definition of purpose is the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists. The consequence of a logical universe is that every cause has an effect. Which means that everything happens for a reason and serves a purpose. The very nature of our physical laws point to reason and purpose.



All we have done so far is to make a logical argument for spirit creating the material world. Certainly not an argument built of fairy tales that's for sure. So going back to the two possibilities; spirit creating the material world versus everything proceeding from the material, the key distinction is no thing versus thing. So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.



If the universe were created through natural process and we are an accidental happenstance of matter and energy doing what matter and energy do, then there should be no expectation for absolute morals. Morals can be anything we want them to be. The problem is that nature does have a preference for an outcome. Societies and people which behave with virtue experience order and harmony. Societies and people which behave without virtue experience disorder and chaos. So we can see from the outcomes that not all behaviors have equal outcomes. That some behaviors have better outcomes and some behaviors have worse outcomes. This is the moral law at work. If the universe was created by spirit for the express purpose of creating beings that know and create we would expect that we would receive feedback on how we behave. The problem is that violating moral laws are not like violating physical laws. When we violate a physical law the consequences are immediate. If you try to defy gravity by jumping off a roof you will fall. Whereas the consequences for violating a moral law are more probabilistic in nature; many times we get away with it.



Morals are effectively standards. For any given thing there exists a standard which is the highest possible standard. This standard exists independent of anything else. It is in effect a universal standard. It exists for a reason. When we deviate from this standard and normalize our deviance from the standard, eventually the reason the standard exists will be discovered. The reason this happens is because error cannot stand. Eventually error will fail and the truth will be discovered. Thus proving that morals cannot be anything we want them to be but are indeed based upon some universal code of common decency that is independent of man.



So the question that naturally begs to be asked is if there is a universal code of common decency that is independent of man how come we all don't behave the same way when it comes to right and wrong? The reason man doesn't behave the same way is because of subjectivity. The difference between being objective and being subjective is bias. Bias is eliminated when there is no preference for an outcome. To eliminate a preference for an outcome one must have no thought of the consequences to one's self. If one does not practice this they will see subjective truth instead of objective truth. Subjective truth leads to moral relativism. Where consequences to self and preferences for an outcome leads to rationalizations of right and wrong.



Man does know right from wrong and when he violates it rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he did not violate it. You can see this behavior in almost all quarrels and disagreements. At the heart of every quarrel and disagreement is a belief in a universal right and wrong. So even though each side believes right to be different each side expects the other to believe their side should be universally known and accepted. It is this behavior which tells us there is an expectation for an absolute truth.



If there were never a universal truth that existed man would never have an expectation of fairness to begin with because fairness would have no meaning. The fact that each of us has an expectation of fairness and that we expect everyone else to follow ought to raise our suspicion on the origin of that expectation.

 

[Grumblenuts]

It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit

It would also have no purpose. "Spirit" is simply the way you sneak in your appeal to religious belief. God did it! Nope. And as always, you neglect the Aether (math) which necessarily precedes any space, time, matter, or energy. All or which, as I've indicated before, can easily be referred to simply as "Nature" or "Natural" meaning what would be the case without human interference, including any supposed interference from man's conveniently concocted spirits or gods.

The result of randomly tossing an evenly weighted coin infinite times clearly depends upon no plan, gods, or laws. Probability (Nature) dictates that it will be exactly 50/50 in the limit.. whether flipped by man or monkey. Addition and multiplication exhibit commutative and associative properties, not plans, gods, or laws. Because math is a real part of Nature. A part that we've only partially explored and discovered, much the same as crows have done. We don't create, invent, or plan math. It would all be there waiting, just the same, with or without us.

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover. So does nature. In fact, your explanation implies it was guided. What is math if not mind stuff?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Yes, it's been obvious that you'll just repeat the same pile of long debunked gibberish no matter what anyone says. I'm sure there's at least one descriptive word for that.. Hmm?..

 

[Grumblenuts]

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover.

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It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit

It would also have no purpose. "Spirit" is simply the way you sneak in your appeal to religious belief. God did it! Nope. And as always, you neglect the Aether (math) which necessarily precedes any space, time, matter, or energy. All or which, as I've indicated before, can easily be referred to simply as "Nature" or "Natural" meaning what would be the case without human interference, including any supposed interference from man's conveniently concocted spirits or gods.

The result of randomly tossing an evenly weighted coin infinite times clearly depends upon no plan, gods, or laws. Probability (Nature) dictates that it will be exactly 50/50 in the limit.. whether flipped by man or monkey. Addition and multiplication exhibit commutative and associative properties, not plans, gods, or laws. Because math is a real part of Nature. A part that we've only partially explored and discovered, much the same as crows have done. We don't create, invent, or plan math. It would all be there waiting, just the same, with or without us.

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover. So does nature. In fact, your explanation implies it was guided. What is math if not mind stuff?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Yes, it's been obvious that you'll just repeat the same pile of long debunked gibberish no matter what anyone says. I'm sure there's at least one descriptive word for that.. Hmm?..

It hasn't been debunked.

 

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Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover.

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Sometimes.



"...It is primarily physicists who in recent times have expressed most clearly and forthrightly this pervasive relationship between mind and matter, and indeed at times the primacy of mind. Arthur Eddington in 1928 wrote, “the stuff of the world is mind‑stuff ... The mind‑stuff is not spread in space and time.... Recognizing that the physical world is entirely abstract and without ‘actuality’ apart from its linkage to consciousness, we restore consciousness to the fundamental position . . .”

Von Weizsacker in 1971 states as “a new and, I feel, intelligible interpretation of quantum theory” what he calls his “Identity Hypothesis: Consciousness and matter are different aspects of the same reality.”

I like most of all Wolfgang Pauli’s formulation, from 1952: “To us . . . the only acceptable point of view appears to be the one that recognizes both sides of reality -- the quantitative and the qualitative, the physical and the psychical -- as compatible with each other, and can embrace them simultaneously . . . It would be most satisfactory of all if physis and psyche (i.e., matter and mind) could be seen as complementary aspects of the same reality.”

What this kind of thought means essentially is that one has no more basis for considering the existence of matter without its complementary aspect of mind, than for asking that elementary particles not also be waves.

As for this seeming a strange viewpoint for a scientist -- at least until one gets used to it -- as in so many other instances, what is wanted is not so much an acceptable concept as an acceptable rhetoric. If I say, with Eddington, “the stuff of the world is mind‑stuff,” that has a metaphysical ring. But if I say that ultimate reality is expressed in the solutions of the equations of quantum mechanics, quantum electrodynamics, and quantum field theory -- that sounds like good, modern physics. Yet what are those equations, indeed what is mathematics, but mind‑stuff? -- virtually the ultimate in mind‑stuff and for that reason deeply mysterious..." George Wald

 

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It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit

It would also have no purpose. "Spirit" is simply the way you sneak in your appeal to religious belief. God did it! Nope. And as always, you neglect the Aether (math) which necessarily precedes any space, time, matter, or energy. All or which, as I've indicated before, can easily be referred to simply as "Nature" or "Natural" meaning what would be the case without human interference, including any supposed interference from man's conveniently concocted spirits or gods.

The result of randomly tossing an evenly weighted coin infinite times clearly depends upon no plan, gods, or laws. Probability (Nature) dictates that it will be exactly 50/50 in the limit.. whether flipped by man or monkey. Addition and multiplication exhibit commutative and associative properties, not plans, gods, or laws. Because math is a real part of Nature. A part that we've only partially explored and discovered, much the same as crows have done. We don't create, invent, or plan math. It would all be there waiting, just the same, with or without us.

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover. So does nature. In fact, your explanation implies it was guided. What is math if not mind stuff?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Yes, it's been obvious that you'll just repeat the same pile of long debunked gibberish no matter what anyone says. I'm sure there's at least one descriptive word for that.. Hmm?..

Can you debunk this?

We have good reason to believe that we find ourselves in a universe permeated with life, in which life arises inevitably, given enough time, wherever the conditions exist that make it possible. Yet were any one of a number of the physical properties of our universe otherwise - some of them basic, others seemingly trivial, almost accidental - that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere. It takes no great imagination to conceive of other possible universes, each stable and workable in itself, yet lifeless. How is it that, with so many other apparent options, we are in a universe that possesses just that peculiar nexus of properties that breeds beings that know and create.

 

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It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit

It would also have no purpose. "Spirit" is simply the way you sneak in your appeal to religious belief. God did it! Nope. And as always, you neglect the Aether (math) which necessarily precedes any space, time, matter, or energy. All or which, as I've indicated before, can easily be referred to simply as "Nature" or "Natural" meaning what would be the case without human interference, including any supposed interference from man's conveniently concocted spirits or gods.

The result of randomly tossing an evenly weighted coin infinite times clearly depends upon no plan, gods, or laws. Probability (Nature) dictates that it will be exactly 50/50 in the limit.. whether flipped by man or monkey. Addition and multiplication exhibit commutative and associative properties, not plans, gods, or laws. Because math is a real part of Nature. A part that we've only partially explored and discovered, much the same as crows have done. We don't create, invent, or plan math. It would all be there waiting, just the same, with or without us.

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover. So does nature. In fact, your explanation implies it was guided. What is math if not mind stuff?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Yes, it's been obvious that you'll just repeat the same pile of long debunked gibberish no matter what anyone says. I'm sure there's at least one descriptive word for that.. Hmm?..

Can you debunk this?

The biological laws are such that life is programmed to survive and multiply which is a requisite for intelligence to arise. If the purpose of the universe was to create intelligence then a preference in nature for it had to exist. The Laws of Nature are such that the potential for intelligence to existed the moment space and time were created.

 

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It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit

It would also have no purpose. "Spirit" is simply the way you sneak in your appeal to religious belief. God did it! Nope. And as always, you neglect the Aether (math) which necessarily precedes any space, time, matter, or energy. All or which, as I've indicated before, can easily be referred to simply as "Nature" or "Natural" meaning what would be the case without human interference, including any supposed interference from man's conveniently concocted spirits or gods.

The result of randomly tossing an evenly weighted coin infinite times clearly depends upon no plan, gods, or laws. Probability (Nature) dictates that it will be exactly 50/50 in the limit.. whether flipped by man or monkey. Addition and multiplication exhibit commutative and associative properties, not plans, gods, or laws. Because math is a real part of Nature. A part that we've only partially explored and discovered, much the same as crows have done. We don't create, invent, or plan math. It would all be there waiting, just the same, with or without us.

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover. So does nature. In fact, your explanation implies it was guided. What is math if not mind stuff?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Yes, it's been obvious that you'll just repeat the same pile of long debunked gibberish no matter what anyone says. I'm sure there's at least one descriptive word for that.. Hmm?..

Can you debunk this?

If we examine the physical laws we discover that we live in a logical universe governed by rules, laws and information. Rules laws and information are a signs of intelligence. Intentionality and purpose are signs of intelligence. The definition of reason is a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event. The definition of purpose is the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists. The consequence of a logical universe is that every cause has an effect. Which means that everything happens for a reason and serves a purpose. The very nature of our physical laws point to reason and purpose.

 

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It should be obvious that if the material world were not created by spirit that everything that has unfolded in the evolution of space and time would have no intentional purpose. That it is just matter and energy doing what matter and energy do. Conversely, if the material world were created by spirit

It would also have no purpose. "Spirit" is simply the way you sneak in your appeal to religious belief. God did it! Nope. And as always, you neglect the Aether (math) which necessarily precedes any space, time, matter, or energy. All or which, as I've indicated before, can easily be referred to simply as "Nature" or "Natural" meaning what would be the case without human interference, including any supposed interference from man's conveniently concocted spirits or gods.

The result of randomly tossing an evenly weighted coin infinite times clearly depends upon no plan, gods, or laws. Probability (Nature) dictates that it will be exactly 50/50 in the limit.. whether flipped by man or monkey. Addition and multiplication exhibit commutative and associative properties, not plans, gods, or laws. Because math is a real part of Nature. A part that we've only partially explored and discovered, much the same as crows have done. We don't create, invent, or plan math. It would all be there waiting, just the same, with or without us.

Randomly tossing a coin requires a prime mover. So does nature. In fact, your explanation implies it was guided. What is math if not mind stuff?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

Yes, it's been obvious that you'll just repeat the same pile of long debunked gibberish no matter what anyone says. I'm sure there's at least one descriptive word for that.. Hmm?..

Can you debunk this?

So if we assume that everything I have described was just an accidental coincidence of the properties of matter, the logical conclusion is that matter and energy are just doing what matter and energy do which makes sense. The problem is that for matter and energy to do what matter and energy do, there has to be rules in place for matter and energy to obey. The formation of space and time followed rules. Specifically the law of conservation and quantum mechanics. These laws existed before space and time and defined the potential of everything which was possible. These laws are no thing. So we literally have an example of no thing existing before the material world. The creation of space and time from nothing is literally correct. Space and time were created from no thing. Spirit is no thing. No thing created space and time.

 

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Grumblenuts , you have debunked jack shit. I could write pages of support for each sentence of what you refer to as "debunked gibberish." You haven't even attempted to debunk one sentence of it.

 

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Next time send me a bigger one.

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Hollie you have no clue as to how stupid you are. How is life creating itself out of nothing in a pond not supernatural.
Lol

Hey Quesadilla, you MORON.
How did god get 'created out of nothing.'?

Or that logical to you?
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I was created by God and when my Sons travel to other planets they will create new life and they will not mutilate the genitals of the women that they bring along.

Yawning

 

[Grumblenuts]

The data overwhelmingly shows that man is a spiritual being.

By providing zero quotes or source information for verification you make plain that this alleged "data" driven claim is plucked straight from nowhere but your ass. Try being honest about your (ab)use of terms for once. First clearly define what you mean by "spiritual" if you dare.

In reality "The data overwhelmingly shows" only "that man is" an evolved being, not a "spiritual" one.

Roughly eight-in-ten U.S. adults (81%) say humans have evolved over time, according to data from a new Pew Research Center study.
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Scientists overwhelmingly agree that humans evolved over time, and most Americans are aware that this is the case. Among scientists connected to the American Association for the Advancement of Science, 98% say they believe humans evolved over time.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Speaking of which,

That's actually an old computer programming cliche, not something commonly related to "science" you pusillanimous pile of pontificating porcupine piss.

In computer science, garbage in, garbage out (GIGO) is the concept that flawed, or nonsense input data produces nonsense output or "garbage". In the UK the term sometimes used is rubbish in, rubbish out (RIRO).[1][2][3]

The principle also applies more generally to all analysis and logic, in that arguments are unsound if their premises are flawed.

Notice first that the phrase is still not "garbage in equals garbage out" as you idiotically asserted. Also that , as I indicated, it was first used in "computer science" and later applied "more generally to all analysis and logic" - not simply to your "science" in general assertion which further revealed you to be just a desperate, pathetic poser. A dancing fool.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Grumblenuts , you have debunked jack shit. I could write pages of support for each sentence of what you refer to as "debunked gibberish." You haven't even attempted to debunk one sentence of it.

 

[esalla]

Hollie you have no clue as to how stupid you are. How is life creating itself out of nothing in a pond not supernatural.
Lol

Hey Quesadilla, you MORON.
How did god get 'created out of nothing.'?

Or that logical to you?
`

I was created by God and when my Sons travel to other planets they will create new life and they will not mutilate the genitals of the women that they bring along.

Yawning

What kind of human being laughs at mutilating women?

Silly turd

 

[Grumblenuts]

What kind of human being laughs at mutilating women?

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The data overwhelmingly shows that man is a spiritual being.

By providing zero quotes or source information for verification you make plain that this alleged "data" driven claim is plucked straight from nowhere but your ass. Try being honest about your (ab)use of terms for once. First clearly define what you mean by "spiritual" if you dare.

In reality "The data overwhelmingly shows" only "that man is" an evolved being, not a "spiritual" one.

Roughly eight-in-ten U.S. adults (81%) say humans have evolved over time, according to data from a new Pew Research Center study.
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Scientists overwhelmingly agree that humans evolved over time, and most Americans are aware that this is the case. Among scientists connected to the American Association for the Advancement of Science, 98% say they believe humans evolved over time.

Look at any poll, dummy.

Physiologically speaking man is pretty much the same as he was 10,000 years ago. If you are trying to argue man has gotten less spiritual, you are doing a poor job of it.

Let me say this for the third time, evolution and a Creator are not mutually exclusive.