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Excellent post.Here are 20 of her claims that are lies:
1. Trump supports and adopts Project 2025 (False: Trump has nothing to do with project 2025)
2. Trump would sign a National abortion ban (False: He has given the issue to the states, and has never stated he desires a national ban)
3. There are "Trump abortion bans" in states. (False: There are none)
4. There are zero cases of women having or desiring late abortions, and" it's not happening". (False: It's rare, but the desire happens, and if made legal, would happen).
5. Trump wants to Monitor all pregnancies (False: no evidence)
6. Trump called Nazi's at Charlottesville "Very fine people" (False: he denounced them, and called peaceful protestors of both sides of statue issue as very fine people)
7. Trump supported the Proud boys by only saying Stand by (False: He said "Stand down and stand by", opposing their violence/rhetoric)
8. Trump incited and ordered the attack on the Capitol (False: He said peaceful and patriotic protest, and to respect police)
9. A Joint letter said that Trump's policies would cause a recession (False: the letter doesn't say there would be a recession)
10. Trump's use of "Bloodbath" is a violent desire (False: It's obviously not literal, it's a common economic term)
11. Trump left us with the worst unemployment since the great depression (False: it's not even near the worst)
12. J6 was the worst event in US History since the Civil War. (False: Pearl Harbor, 9/11, JFK assassination, many others are objectively worse)
13. Trump said he would terminate the constitution (False: He never said it or has expressed wanting to do so)
14. "I made it clear in 2020" she would not ban fracking (False: she said "Joe Biden will not ban fracking" in the 2020 VP debate, and she said she would ban fracking in her 2019 presidential bid)
15. Trump got handed $400 million on a silver platter (False: He inherited money, but exaggerated the amount)
16. She said she didn't support defund the police movement (False: She is on record supporting it)
17. She said Police died on January 6th (False: none did).
18. He wants to be a dictator on day one (False: She took a joke and is representing it to the public as a serious declaration)
19. Biden/Harris Created 800,000 new manufacturing jobs (False: most aren't new, just returning after Democrat shut-down policies during COVID)
20. Trump would impose a 20% sales tax (False: Trump would impose tariffs, ones he did during his previous administration and there were no increases in inflation/prices because of them)
She told lie after lie after lie… far more than Trump.
Whats' BS is your response.This list is bullshit. None of these are lies.
You won't see ElmerMudd the moron anymore.Okay… list them
You might, at least, find some reasonable talking points to keep repeating instead of making a fool of yourself.If you're not aware that Trump unleashed a flood of abortion bans or that his team wrote Project 2025 for him or that he was born rich or that he's said the things he's said, I don't know what help I can be to you.
And the mods let her get away with every single one.Here are 20 of her claims that are lies:
1. Trump supports and adopts Project 2025 (False: Trump has nothing to do with project 2025)
2. Trump would sign a National abortion ban (False: He has given the issue to the states, and has never stated he desires a national ban)
3. There are "Trump abortion bans" in states. (False: There are none)
4. There are zero cases of women having or desiring late abortions, and" it's not happening". (False: It's rare, but the desire happens, and if made legal, would happen).
5. Trump wants to Monitor all pregnancies (False: no evidence)
6. Trump called Nazi's at Charlottesville "Very fine people" (False: he denounced them, and called peaceful protestors of both sides of statue issue as very fine people)
7. Trump supported the Proud boys by only saying Stand by (False: He said "Stand down and stand by", opposing their violence/rhetoric)
8. Trump incited and ordered the attack on the Capitol (False: He said peaceful and patriotic protest, and to respect police)
9. A Joint letter said that Trump's policies would cause a recession (False: the letter doesn't say there would be a recession)
10. Trump's use of "Bloodbath" is a violent desire (False: It's obviously not literal, it's a common economic term)
11. Trump left us with the worst unemployment since the great depression (False: it's not even near the worst)
12. J6 was the worst event in US History since the Civil War. (False: Pearl Harbor, 9/11, JFK assassination, many others are objectively worse)
13. Trump said he would terminate the constitution (False: He never said it or has expressed wanting to do so)
14. "I made it clear in 2020" she would not ban fracking (False: she said "Joe Biden will not ban fracking" in the 2020 VP debate, and she said she would ban fracking in her 2019 presidential bid)
15. Trump got handed $400 million on a silver platter (False: He inherited money, but exaggerated the amount)
16. She said she didn't support defund the police movement (False: She is on record supporting it)
17. She said Police died on January 6th (False: none did).
18. He wants to be a dictator on day one (False: She took a joke and is representing it to the public as a serious declaration)
19. Biden/Harris Created 800,000 new manufacturing jobs (False: most aren't new, just returning after Democrat shut-down policies during COVID)
20. Trump would impose a 20% sales tax (False: Trump would impose tariffs, ones he did during his previous administration and there were no increases in inflation/prices because of them)
She told lie after lie after lie… far more than Trump.
"Campaign and debate rhetoric" aka Lying is now the acceptable apparatus in American politics and media salesmanship.This list is bullshit. None of these are lies. Campaign and debate rhetoric, sure. The only thing she lied about straight up about was the unemployment rate Trump left when Biden and she took office.
And I don't see that on your list.![]()
ALL politicians lie, always have, always will. They lie on purpose, they lie to manipulate, they lie because they have the wrong information. You don't have to fight her corner, to stick up for her. If I lived in the US, I would vote for Trump and I know he's the chief manipulator liar. If you don't vote for someone because they told lies, you wouldn't be able to vote for anyone.This list is bullshit. None of these are lies. Campaign and debate rhetoric, sure. The only thing she lied about straight up about was the unemployment rate Trump left when Biden and she took office.
And I don't see that on your list.![]()
Ok… your first point… not a lie. She was quoting the estimate from a think tank.Harris claimed Trump intends to enact what in effect is a “sales tax” which she said economists estimate would raise prices on typical American families by almost $4,000 a year. That’s a high-end estimate from a liberal think tank about Trump’s plan for “universal baseline tariffs” on imports