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2005 will see the 2nd JFK in the White House
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Lefty Wilbury
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where to start here. kerry is far from honest. he'll lie to your face and not think twice about it. he has no postions that remain the same. a few examples:
he bitches that we need wind farms and alternative energy blah blah blah. sounds great don't it? but he forgets to mention that he's part of a lawsuit to STOP the construction of a wind farm in nantuckect sound. why? because it doesn't look right. some priorities.
another one of my favorites is he's been running ads and running his mouth that he was fighting the war on terrorism long before the was a war on terrorism. only problem is he's voted to CUT intelligence spending since day one. then he's quick to go on tv and complains how the cia screws up like he did after 9-11. i wonder why that was johnny boy lack of funds?
his voting record leaves something to be desired as well. he voted againest: the patriot missle system, tomahawk cruise missles and many many more.
he talks up his military record oh so well but never mentions he worked with hanoi jane when he came home. then he says he cares about vets but never mentions he voted to cut the va's budget as well as the military budget in general. i wonder if he'll bring up the fact that he wanted to put the us military under un control full time. some how i doubt that it will make an appearence in his next campigan ad.
you'll also notice he leaves out the time he was Dukakis lt gov. i wonder why that is.
i also like things like this:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110193,00.html
Sen. Kerry Now and Then
Now and Then
Howard Dean has criticized John Kerry for voting to authorize war with Iraq last year, after voting against the first Gulf War (search) in 1991. There's more to it than that.
Kerry sent a letter to a constituent back in 1991, saying -- "Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the U.S. against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted ... against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war."
Nine days later, the same constituent received another letter from Kerry, saying -- "Thank you for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush [in the Persian Gulf]... From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush's response to the crisis."
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oh well what do i know he's just my senator.
he bitches that we need wind farms and alternative energy blah blah blah. sounds great don't it? but he forgets to mention that he's part of a lawsuit to STOP the construction of a wind farm in nantuckect sound. why? because it doesn't look right. some priorities.
another one of my favorites is he's been running ads and running his mouth that he was fighting the war on terrorism long before the was a war on terrorism. only problem is he's voted to CUT intelligence spending since day one. then he's quick to go on tv and complains how the cia screws up like he did after 9-11. i wonder why that was johnny boy lack of funds?
his voting record leaves something to be desired as well. he voted againest: the patriot missle system, tomahawk cruise missles and many many more.
he talks up his military record oh so well but never mentions he worked with hanoi jane when he came home. then he says he cares about vets but never mentions he voted to cut the va's budget as well as the military budget in general. i wonder if he'll bring up the fact that he wanted to put the us military under un control full time. some how i doubt that it will make an appearence in his next campigan ad.
you'll also notice he leaves out the time he was Dukakis lt gov. i wonder why that is.
i also like things like this:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110193,00.html
Sen. Kerry Now and Then
Now and Then
Howard Dean has criticized John Kerry for voting to authorize war with Iraq last year, after voting against the first Gulf War (search) in 1991. There's more to it than that.
Kerry sent a letter to a constituent back in 1991, saying -- "Thank you for contacting me to express your opposition ... to the early use of military force by the U.S. against Iraq. I share your concerns. On January 11, I voted ... against a resolution giving the president the immediate authority to go to war."
Nine days later, the same constituent received another letter from Kerry, saying -- "Thank you for contacting me to express your support for the actions of President Bush [in the Persian Gulf]... From the outset of the invasion, I have strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush's response to the crisis."
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oh well what do i know he's just my senator.
Lefty Wilbury
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heres just a little bit more:
http://bjcat0.tripod.com/kerrylies.htm
As I listened to the news, I was stunned by the blatant lies being put forth by one Senator John Kerry.
He ranted and raved about how Bush is using the troops for political purposes. He is cutting their pay, their benefits and if HE were President, he would fix all that. I guess Kerry has had some private revelation about how the troops are being taken care of because nothing he said is even vaguely true. He has been and voted anti-military for decades. We do not need another military hating liberal in the White House. Now is NOT the time. It will be our undoing.
He compared Iraq to Vietnam. You know that war where he said he threw his medals away in protest. Well, not really. He threw someone else's. His are in a case on the wall behind his desk. It was the war that he used to put himself in the public light so he could get elected. He claims Bush is using the war for political reasons. What crap. (Gosh, what is HE doing right now?) Kerry said we need to send more troops. That Bush needs to listen to the Congress in regard to managing the war. We need to crawl to the U.N. because WE just can't handle the situation. That's what got us into trouble in Viet Nam! NOT LISTENING TO THE MILITARY MEN! Instead, LBJ and his democrat congress tried to run the war and you see how it ended up. The General in command in Iraq has said repeatedly that he DOES NOT NEED more troops. He needs more cops! He needs more engineers. He doesn't want OUR troops guarding bridges and buildings where they will just be targets. But Kerry thinks he knows it all. Like Gore, he feels a couple of years in the military, which he decried for years, is suddenly some banner for him to wear. He apparently thinks no one will look up his abysmal record when it comes to shafting the military and the men and women in them. He's wrong.
He said he has long advocated all things good for our military. RUBBISH! I can't believe he can even stand up in front of veterans, who have served this country and lie to them like that.
Here is a sample of his record: Kerry was lieutenant governor under Dukakis, one of the worst Governors in history. He was thrashed when he ran for President. Kerry was all for the passes for murderers and rapists which, once enacted, resulted in the rapes and murders of innocent people. He wants taxpayers to pay for all abortions on demand, including the partial birth murders.
Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times.
Kerry Voted Against President Bush's Tax Cuts, At Least The Tenth Key Anti-Tax Relief Vote Of His Senate Career.
Kerry Voted For The Biggest Tax Increase In American History Under President Clinton.
Kerry Has Voted For At Least Seven Major Reductions In Defense And Military Spending Necessary For Our National Security.
In 1996, Introduced Bill To Slash Defense Department Funding By $6.5 Billion.
In 1995, Voted To Freeze Defense Spending For 7 Years, Slashing Over $34 Billion From Defense.
Fiscal 1996 Budget Resolution Defense Freeze. Harkin, D-Iowa, amendment to freeze defense spending for the next seven years and transfer the $34.8 billion in savings to education and job training.
In 1993, Introduced Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs, Including:
Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews
Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one
Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force
Terminate the Navys coastal mine-hunting ship program
Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year.
Has Voted Repeatedly To Cut Defense Spending, Including:
In 1993, Voted Against Increased Defense Spending For Military Pay Raise. Kerry voted to kill an increase in military pay over five years.
In 1992, Voted To Cut $6 Billion From Defense.
In 1991, Voted To Slash Over $3 Billion From Defense, Shift Money To Social Programs.
In 1991, Voted To Cut Defense Spending By 2%.
Has Voted Repeatedly To Cut Or Eliminate Funding For B-2 Stealth Bomber Has Voted Repeatedly Against Missile Defense. Weapons Kerry Sought To Phase Out Were Vital In Iraq. [K]erry supported cancellation of a host of weapons systems that have become the basis of US military might -- the high-tech munitions and delivery systems on display to the world as they leveled the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein in a matter of weeks. (Brian C. Mooney, Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One, The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)
Military hardware he felt we no longer need since the "cold war" is past. The money would be better spent on "social" programs. These weapons are now the core of our military might.
F-16 Fighting Falcons.
B-1Bs B-2As F-15 And F-16s.
M1 Abrams.
Patriot Missile.
AH-64 Apache Helicopter
Tomahawk Cruise Missile.
Aegis Air-Defense Cruiser
During 1980s, Kerry And Michael Dukakis Joined Forces With Liberal Group Dedicated To Slashing Defense. Kerry sat on the board of Jobs With Peace Campaign, which sought to develop public support for cutting the defense budget (Pentagon Demonstrators Call For Home-Building, Not Bombs, The Associated Press, 6/3/88)
Running For Congress In 1972, Kerry Promised To Cut Defense Spending. On what hell do if hes elected to Congress, Kerry said he would bring a different kind of message to the president. He said he would vote against military appropriations. (Candidates For Congress Capture Campus In Andover, Lawrence [MA] Eagle-Tribune, 4/21/72)
So you can look at all the potential threats of the world, and when you add the expenditures of all of our allies to the United States of America, you have to stop and say to yourself, What is it that we are really preparing for in a post-cold-war world?(Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 5/15/96, p. S5061)
Apparently, Kerry was blissfully unaware of any of the multitude of terror attacks and threats against the country. If we had listened to him, we would have no military at all.
Kerry was also one of those who helped castrate our CIA and intelligence gathering, which, along with Clinton's total ignoring of the problem, led to 9/11 and the present global war on terror we are now fighting.
What upsets me most about this man is how easily he can LIE. Just like Bill. He even makes himself look like a Kennedy clone and married a woman rolling in money who would be an embarrassment as First Lady. (Almost as bad as Hillary, but more honest about it) I don't care if he was in the military. I don't care if he was in Viet Nam. He is a socialist and thus he abhors the military. He can write his time off in the service as "youthful indiscretion".
He is a Liar. If you value your freedom, your very life and that of your children, don't even consider voting for this man. It may well be the last vote you live to make. This man could no more conduct the war we are facing than my 4 year old Grandson. NOTE: My grandson might even be better.
http://bjcat0.tripod.com/kerrylies.htm
As I listened to the news, I was stunned by the blatant lies being put forth by one Senator John Kerry.
He ranted and raved about how Bush is using the troops for political purposes. He is cutting their pay, their benefits and if HE were President, he would fix all that. I guess Kerry has had some private revelation about how the troops are being taken care of because nothing he said is even vaguely true. He has been and voted anti-military for decades. We do not need another military hating liberal in the White House. Now is NOT the time. It will be our undoing.
He compared Iraq to Vietnam. You know that war where he said he threw his medals away in protest. Well, not really. He threw someone else's. His are in a case on the wall behind his desk. It was the war that he used to put himself in the public light so he could get elected. He claims Bush is using the war for political reasons. What crap. (Gosh, what is HE doing right now?) Kerry said we need to send more troops. That Bush needs to listen to the Congress in regard to managing the war. We need to crawl to the U.N. because WE just can't handle the situation. That's what got us into trouble in Viet Nam! NOT LISTENING TO THE MILITARY MEN! Instead, LBJ and his democrat congress tried to run the war and you see how it ended up. The General in command in Iraq has said repeatedly that he DOES NOT NEED more troops. He needs more cops! He needs more engineers. He doesn't want OUR troops guarding bridges and buildings where they will just be targets. But Kerry thinks he knows it all. Like Gore, he feels a couple of years in the military, which he decried for years, is suddenly some banner for him to wear. He apparently thinks no one will look up his abysmal record when it comes to shafting the military and the men and women in them. He's wrong.
He said he has long advocated all things good for our military. RUBBISH! I can't believe he can even stand up in front of veterans, who have served this country and lie to them like that.
Here is a sample of his record: Kerry was lieutenant governor under Dukakis, one of the worst Governors in history. He was thrashed when he ran for President. Kerry was all for the passes for murderers and rapists which, once enacted, resulted in the rapes and murders of innocent people. He wants taxpayers to pay for all abortions on demand, including the partial birth murders.
Kerry Has Voted Against A Balanced Budget Amendment At Least Five Times.
Kerry Voted Against President Bush's Tax Cuts, At Least The Tenth Key Anti-Tax Relief Vote Of His Senate Career.
Kerry Voted For The Biggest Tax Increase In American History Under President Clinton.
Kerry Has Voted For At Least Seven Major Reductions In Defense And Military Spending Necessary For Our National Security.
In 1996, Introduced Bill To Slash Defense Department Funding By $6.5 Billion.
In 1995, Voted To Freeze Defense Spending For 7 Years, Slashing Over $34 Billion From Defense.
Fiscal 1996 Budget Resolution Defense Freeze. Harkin, D-Iowa, amendment to freeze defense spending for the next seven years and transfer the $34.8 billion in savings to education and job training.
In 1993, Introduced Plan To Cut Numerous Defense Programs, Including:
Cut the number of Navy submarines and their crews
Reduce the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one
Reduce tactical fighter wings in the Air Force
Terminate the Navys coastal mine-hunting ship program
Force the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year.
Has Voted Repeatedly To Cut Defense Spending, Including:
In 1993, Voted Against Increased Defense Spending For Military Pay Raise. Kerry voted to kill an increase in military pay over five years.
In 1992, Voted To Cut $6 Billion From Defense.
In 1991, Voted To Slash Over $3 Billion From Defense, Shift Money To Social Programs.
In 1991, Voted To Cut Defense Spending By 2%.
Has Voted Repeatedly To Cut Or Eliminate Funding For B-2 Stealth Bomber Has Voted Repeatedly Against Missile Defense. Weapons Kerry Sought To Phase Out Were Vital In Iraq. [K]erry supported cancellation of a host of weapons systems that have become the basis of US military might -- the high-tech munitions and delivery systems on display to the world as they leveled the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein in a matter of weeks. (Brian C. Mooney, Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One, The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)
Military hardware he felt we no longer need since the "cold war" is past. The money would be better spent on "social" programs. These weapons are now the core of our military might.
F-16 Fighting Falcons.
B-1Bs B-2As F-15 And F-16s.
M1 Abrams.
Patriot Missile.
AH-64 Apache Helicopter
Tomahawk Cruise Missile.
Aegis Air-Defense Cruiser
During 1980s, Kerry And Michael Dukakis Joined Forces With Liberal Group Dedicated To Slashing Defense. Kerry sat on the board of Jobs With Peace Campaign, which sought to develop public support for cutting the defense budget (Pentagon Demonstrators Call For Home-Building, Not Bombs, The Associated Press, 6/3/88)
Running For Congress In 1972, Kerry Promised To Cut Defense Spending. On what hell do if hes elected to Congress, Kerry said he would bring a different kind of message to the president. He said he would vote against military appropriations. (Candidates For Congress Capture Campus In Andover, Lawrence [MA] Eagle-Tribune, 4/21/72)
So you can look at all the potential threats of the world, and when you add the expenditures of all of our allies to the United States of America, you have to stop and say to yourself, What is it that we are really preparing for in a post-cold-war world?(Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 5/15/96, p. S5061)
Apparently, Kerry was blissfully unaware of any of the multitude of terror attacks and threats against the country. If we had listened to him, we would have no military at all.
Kerry was also one of those who helped castrate our CIA and intelligence gathering, which, along with Clinton's total ignoring of the problem, led to 9/11 and the present global war on terror we are now fighting.
What upsets me most about this man is how easily he can LIE. Just like Bill. He even makes himself look like a Kennedy clone and married a woman rolling in money who would be an embarrassment as First Lady. (Almost as bad as Hillary, but more honest about it) I don't care if he was in the military. I don't care if he was in Viet Nam. He is a socialist and thus he abhors the military. He can write his time off in the service as "youthful indiscretion".
He is a Liar. If you value your freedom, your very life and that of your children, don't even consider voting for this man. It may well be the last vote you live to make. This man could no more conduct the war we are facing than my 4 year old Grandson. NOTE: My grandson might even be better.
Psychoblues
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You're kidding!!!!!!!
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Annie
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I agree with everything that Lefty said, however having made calls last night for Pres. Bush, there is no doubt they are alienating the base. He is vunerable.
People are very upset about his illegal immigration proposals, the deficit, the NEA proposals, the deficit, his Mars proposals, the deficit, get it?
IF it wasn't for his strong stands and speeches after 9/11, I think he would lose. IF Kerry wasn't so flawed, I'd be more worried.
People are very upset about his illegal immigration proposals, the deficit, the NEA proposals, the deficit, his Mars proposals, the deficit, get it?
IF it wasn't for his strong stands and speeches after 9/11, I think he would lose. IF Kerry wasn't so flawed, I'd be more worried.
MtnBiker
Senior Member
I'm not disagreeing with you Kathianne, but where are these people going to go with there vote. Perot proved that splitting the vote in 92' did not deliever the results his voters wanted, he was not elected and one could argue that it very much helped Clinton. Do conservatives want to see the Democratic nominee elected?Originally posted by Kathianne
People are very upset about his illegal immigration proposals, the deficit, the NEA proposals, the deficit, his Mars proposals, the deficit, get it?
I suppose instead of voting for a 3rd party canidate some could just not vote at all.
tim_duncan2000
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Just one of many reasons why I don't like Kerry.John Kerry didnt vote for the original Iraqi war in 1991, voted for the most recent Iraqi war, voted against the funding of the war he voted for, and now doesnt support his earlier vote supporting the war. Whats more, hes basically admitted that his experience in Vietnam has created a reluctance to take hard stances in extreme situations, an indecisiveness he demonstrated by not supporting the first Iraqi war when more than half the country did.
nbdysfu
That was an interesting article about Kerry and Vietnam. I know he was there and escaped death on a few occasions, but the things he said and did afterwards was a slap in the face to many veterans. He also seems to use his military service when it suits him (first he's not proud of his service, then he wants to talk about how he served, then he's not proud, and then...well you get the idea.
Lefty Wilbury
I was also interested in the link you posted. Seems like Kerry doesn't even know what he stands for half the time.
Annie
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Hey Mountain Biker, serious computer problems here, meant to respond, actually thought I did, much earlier. I obviously agree with you, or I wouldn't have given up 3 hours of my time to be abused by Republicans in DuPage County, a bastion of GOP support.
Kerry is the pits and he is the best the democrats can throw at the Republicans, but he will not be rolled over like Howard. He will not lose his cool. He is a certifiable hero, albeit also a flip flopper. Karl Rove has his job cut out for himself. That's all I'm saying.
Kerry is the pits and he is the best the democrats can throw at the Republicans, but he will not be rolled over like Howard. He will not lose his cool. He is a certifiable hero, albeit also a flip flopper. Karl Rove has his job cut out for himself. That's all I'm saying.
MtnBiker
Senior Member
Agreed, thanks for the input, it is always appreciated. Hope the computer is better. And thanks for putting some time on the phones, especially if you had to put up with abuse. Keep up the good fight.Originally posted by Kathianne
Karl Rove has his job cut out for himself. That's all I'm saying.
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