47% of able bodied people in Maine don't work.

[sameech]

What republican and libertarian voters have been led to believe. This is a product of the republican machine pounding out a message that our economic problems are caused by ordinary Americans getting free stuff. A take off from Reagan's speech about the welfare mom and her cadillac, although she couldn't be found. The Maine Governor can't back up what he says anymore than the republican machine coming up with evidence of massive voter fraud by democrats. If they have, then where is the evidence? How many people have been charged and convicted of voter fraud?

a link would be nice

Sorry here it is:
Gov. LePage lets slip what he really thinks about Maine people Mike Tipping

Your source is further out of the ballpark that the governor according to politifact--probably because they tried to include "people seeking work" in their number

Maine Gov. Paul LePage says 47 percent of able-bodied Maine residents aren t working PolitiFact

Sorry, I'm not understanding what you said.

the governor said 47%; your source says 65%; politifact calculated it at 50% which puts the governor closer to accurate than the person who wrote the linked article. In short about only half of people in maine work. That is somewhere in the national average these days though.

 

[Care4all]

Maine is home to a huge somalie population. They came for the welfare.

Maine Struggles to Cut Off Welfare for Somali Migrants FrontPage Magazine

Having a regular income from welfare allows the somalies to become the same kind of criminals they were back home.

Maine has gone from having no gang members a few years ago to having 4,000 of them. Mainahs have gone from thinking of gang members as something they saw on COPS to something they see when they look out the window.
Vacationland now hosts the True Somali Bloods and the True Sudanese Bloods who spill each other’s blood to find out who has the truest blood of them all. In Lewiston, Somali flash mobs attack natives. In Bangor, a Somali gang is at the heart of local crime.

And Jebus Mary and Joseph Katz, you don't have a clue nor does your racist piece of crap magazine writer...

MAINE IS THE SAFEST STATE IN THE NATION

GOT that?

Out of All 50 states, for more than a decade, or two or three, we have been in the TOP 5 SAFEST STATES to live in....last year, we were THE SAFEST.

We don't have violent gangs here, the Somalians are not trouble makers for the most part. The Somalians are NOT ILLEGAL ALIENS, many are refugees awaiting documentation that were placed here by the Federal Government, and others came here to join them from other cities that the Federal Government had placed them in...we are talking about 6000 people IN TOTAL, and YOU say 4000 violent gang members exist in Maine due to the Somalis???

SHEESH!

Your whole article link and your statement about violent gangs in Maine is a LIE....as I said, we ARE the safest State in the Nation.

Police say report on violent gangs in Portland is wrong - The Portland Press Herald Maine Sunday Telegram

Police say report on violent gangs in Portland is wrong
Crime groups here are far different from the murderous rivals in bigger areas, officials say.


By David Hench Staff Writer
[email protected] | @MaineHenchman | 207-791-6327
A national newspaper’s report that Maine’s largest city is home to three violent rival gangs is wildly exaggerated, law enforcement officials said Tuesday.

Gangs that do exist in Portland, and to an extent in other parts of Maine, tend to be small, neighborhood groups involved in drug activity, they said, not the large, national organizations that battle for turf in some of the largest cities.

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Portland Police Chief Michael Sauschuck talks with a reporter Tuesday after a news conference. Officials sought to reinforce residents’ sense of security after a report said three violent gangs operate in the city. “I take umbrage with the characterization. ... That is not the case in any way,” he said. Gabe Souza/Staff Photographer

Portland Police Chief Michael Sauschuck responds to a media report about drug gang activity in Portland at a news conference Tuesday. David Hench/Staff Writer
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“When community members read a story about gangs, they’re going to think about that classic Bloods and Crips and ‘I’m going to wear this color and you’re going to wear that color and we’re going to hate each other for life,’ and we don’t have that problem here in the city of Portland,” said Police Chief Michael Sauschuck. “I do not believe we have an ongoing issue with violent criminal gangs in the city of Portland.”

Sauschuck spoke at a news conference in response to the Los Angeles Times story Tuesday that said Portland is “home to a trio of violent gangs called the True Somali Bloods, the Little Rascals Gang and a newly formed faction of the Crips Nation.”

Aaron Steps, resident agent in charge of the FBI in Maine, noted that Maine has one of the nation’s lowest murder rates – an indication that gang activity is far different from other parts of the country.

the federal FBI is clueless as well, and that is scary!!!!

 

[jasonnfree]

What republican and libertarian voters have been led to believe. This is a product of the republican machine pounding out a message that our economic problems are caused by ordinary Americans getting free stuff. A take off from Reagan's speech about the welfare mom and her cadillac, although she couldn't be found. The Maine Governor can't back up what he says anymore than the republican machine coming up with evidence of massive voter fraud by democrats. If they have, then where is the evidence? How many people have been charged and convicted of voter fraud?

Take away the free stuff and people out of work will start working. It's easy to create a job, but even easier to sit on your ass collecting welfare checks.

What republican and libertarian voters have been led to believe. This is a product of the republican machine pounding out a message that our economic problems are caused by ordinary Americans getting free stuff. A take off from Reagan's speech about the welfare mom and her cadillac, although she couldn't be found. The Maine Governor can't back up what he says anymore than the republican machine coming up with evidence of massive voter fraud by democrats. If they have, then where is the evidence? How many people have been charged and convicted of voter fraud?

Take away the free stuff and people out of work will start working. It's easy to create a job, but even easier to sit on your ass collecting welfare checks.

That's what father coughlin and the republicans said in the thirties in response to FDR. "America will go broke", but America became the strongest, most successful country in the world and fought a war in spite of all the FDR socialism. This is the stuff the republican attack machine pumps out 24/7, blame the little guy for our economic woes, but not one word about corporate welfare, or the war for profit industry, which is costing trillions, or no mentioning massive corporate welfare. They just feed you stories of welfare moms, food stamps, etc.

You're a fucking idiot. The percentage of worthless Americans has been going up since FDR and has just now reached 47%.

Revert to vulgarity when you have no decent response.

There is no decent response to your marxist bullshit. You folks need to be shot.

I thought the marxists and fascists were the ones that wanted to shoot people that they didn't agree with. Your reverting to vulgarity just shows me what kind of upbringing you had. You're still the spoiled little brat you were when your parents didn't wash your mouth out with soap or spanked your butt when you needed it.

 

[Esmeralda]

Untold millions of illegals don't seem to have difficulty finding a job, its time for American deadbeats to get off their ass and earn their keep.

Agree. Most immigrants do the jobs Americans think they are too good for. If Americans actually lived by the work ethic they are always pontificating about, there would be no jobs for immigrants and no reason for them to come here.

 

[BluesLegend]

Maine is home to a huge somalie population. They came for the welfare.

Maine Struggles to Cut Off Welfare for Somali Migrants FrontPage Magazine

Having a regular income from welfare allows the somalies to become the same kind of criminals they were back home.

Maine has gone from having no gang members a few years ago to having 4,000 of them. Mainahs have gone from thinking of gang members as something they saw on COPS to something they see when they look out the window.
Vacationland now hosts the True Somali Bloods and the True Sudanese Bloods who spill each other’s blood to find out who has the truest blood of them all. In Lewiston, Somali flash mobs attack natives. In Bangor, a Somali gang is at the heart of local crime.

Untold millions of illegals don't seem to have difficulty finding a job, its time for American deadbeats to get off their ass and earn their keep.

Why should Americans get off their ass when democrats want to pay them to sit down?

They should be ashamed of sitting around on their ass while other people work overtime to pay the taxes to fund the welfare.

 

[jasonnfree]

What republican and libertarian voters have been led to believe. This is a product of the republican machine pounding out a message that our economic problems are caused by ordinary Americans getting free stuff. A take off from Reagan's speech about the welfare mom and her cadillac, although she couldn't be found. The Maine Governor can't back up what he says anymore than the republican machine coming up with evidence of massive voter fraud by democrats. If they have, then where is the evidence? How many people have been charged and convicted of voter fraud?

a link would be nice

Sorry here it is:
Gov. LePage lets slip what he really thinks about Maine people Mike Tipping

Your source is further out of the ballpark that the governor according to politifact--probably because they tried to include "people seeking work" in their number

Maine Gov. Paul LePage says 47 percent of able-bodied Maine residents aren t working PolitiFact

Sorry, I'm not understanding what you said.

the governor said 47%; your source says 65%; politifact calculated it at 50% which puts the governor closer to accurate than the person who wrote the linked article. In short about only half of people in maine work. That is somewhere in the national average these days though.

However, retirees are included in that figure. So retirees are included as ones sitting home receiving free stuff. This includes military.

 

[Esmeralda]

17 percent of the population of Maine is over 65. Therefore, it is highy likely that of the 47 percent not working, about 20% are retired. Maine has the oldest population in the country -- and that does not mean they are not able bodied.

 

[jasonnfree]

Untold millions of illegals don't seem to have difficulty finding a job, its time for American deadbeats to get off their ass and earn their keep.

Agree. Most immigrants do the jobs Americans think they are too good for. If Americans actually lived by the work ethic they are always pontificating about, there would be no jobs for immigrants and no reason for them to come here.

I have to disagree. I painted houses on the side for extra money back in the early eighties. So many immigrants, not just Latinos, even Koreans, were giving estimates I couldn't beat. Were they illegal? Many on the crews not speaking English was a good indication that they probably were.

 

[jasonnfree]

17 percent of the population of Maine is over 65. Therefore, it is highy likely that of the 47 percent not working, about 20% are retired. Maine has the oldest population in the country -- and that does not mean they are not able bodied.

So if they are retired, but able bodied, they are still included in with the 47%.

 

[BluesLegend]

Untold millions of illegals don't seem to have difficulty finding a job, its time for American deadbeats to get off their ass and earn their keep.

The illegals will work so cheaply, they price Americans out of work. I have no documentation, but I've seen it in jobs like home repair and services. Home depot full of day workers every day, undercutting wages.

It is WELL documented what happened the last time they were granted amnesty, the poor and middle class took it right on the chin in terms of jobs and wages and it was a net loss to America financially. Yet our government allowed untold millions more into our country, they refuse to secure our borders, they refuse to enforce our laws and deport these people, and want to give them amnesty and a path to citizenship and the vote. Man it sucks to be the poor and middle class in this country.

 

[BluesLegend]

Untold millions of illegals don't seem to have difficulty finding a job, its time for American deadbeats to get off their ass and earn their keep.

Agree. Most immigrants do the jobs Americans think they are too good for. If Americans actually lived by the work ethic they are always pontificating about, there would be no jobs for immigrants and no reason for them to come here.

It chaps my ass the amount of overtime I work and taxes I pay while so many able bodied people sit around on their fat ass sucking up the welfare.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How many are retired or have the means so they don't have to work.

 

[BluesLegend]

Untold millions of illegals don't seem to have difficulty finding a job, its time for American deadbeats to get off their ass and earn their keep.

Agree. Most immigrants do the jobs Americans think they are too good for. If Americans actually lived by the work ethic they are always pontificating about, there would be no jobs for immigrants and no reason for them to come here.

I have to disagree. I painted houses on the side for extra money back in the early eighties. So many immigrants, not just Latinos, even Koreans, were giving estimates I couldn't beat. Were they illegal? Many on the crews not speaking English was a good indication that they probably were.

Hence our borders need to be secured and these people need to be deported. Are you aware they scammed $4 billion out of American taxpayers last year filing fraudulent tax returns claiming refunds and credits they are not legally entitled to? Are you aware Dem's have blocked efforts to put a stop to this?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is a product of the republican machine pounding out a message that our economic problems are caused by ordinary Americans getting free stuff.

That is part of our problem.

 

[eagle1462010]

Our immigration problem is a numbers game. We can't allow the numbers of immigrants here that would flock to our country if allowed.

The problem isn't America. The problem is in Central and South America. In Central America alone approx. 220 MILLION live on less than 5 Bucks a day. So when they come here and work in the fields of farms making low wages it is actually HIGH TO THEM from where they came from. And in doing so they pool their resources and live 20 to a house and have maybe 1 old vehicle or get picked up for work. No American can live on the wages paid to these types unless they are willing to live in a barracks with their families.

Our cost of living doesn't allow that.

We cannot handle the numbers coming. We cannot allow all of the poor of Central and South America to come here..................Because it is a wrecking ball on our State, Federal, and Local budgets...............

Which is exactly why the borders need to be secured.

It isn't that we hate them........because in their shoes we'd do the same damn thing..............It's about maintaining OUR COUNTRY and not promoting policies that are detrimental to our future economic survival.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That's what father coughlin and the republicans said in the thirties in response to FDR. "America will go broke", but America became the strongest, most successful country in the world and fought a war in spite of all the FDR socialism.

We are carrying a debt of $17 trillion right now not including future "obligations" we can't afford. That sounds pretty broke to me.

 

[Esmeralda]

17 percent of the population of Maine is over 65. Therefore, it is highy likely that of the 47 percent not working, about 20% are retired. Maine has the oldest population in the country -- and that does not mean they are not able bodied.

So if they are retired, but able bodied, they are still included in with the 47%.

Yes, which means the 47% figure misrepresents the situation. You need to deduct the 20% of the population that is retired and change the 47% to 27%.

 

[Esmeralda]

How many are retired or have the means so they don't have to work.

17 percent of the population is 65 or older. At least that number are probably retired.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

That's what father coughlin and the republicans said in the thirties in response to FDR. "America will go broke", but America became the strongest, most successful country in the world and fought a war in spite of all the FDR socialism.

We are carrying a debt of $17 trillion right now not including future "obligations" we can't afford. That sounds pretty broke to me.

Don't worry. Money's imaginary. Debt's real, but our money isn't. So it's actually MUCH worse because we don't have a single cent with which to pay it off with. Just a lot of worthless paper.

 

[Care4all]

Come on guys.......Stop playing the games the politicians keep playing for the country............They keep us at each others throats for a reason..........

Carsey Institute Indicator Website

The Labor participation rate for main is ranked 26th in the country.
That rate is 65.3%.

I know their is a political divide in this country. Both sides know this...........One side wants more Gov't the other side doesn't.

I stand on the side to live within our means and end the reckless spending in this country. But I see that the parties want us divided so we will not put the Gov't on a leash.........so they play sides and propaganda pitting Americans against Americans............

I posted data...........and expect to see data from others to either confirm or deny the numbers I posted.

the Labor participation rate is low here, but the people here DO WORK...where I live, mainly on their own Farms, their own Homesteads....the wife works right along side her husband, and on occasion she may even work part time in the summer cleaning hotel rooms, or summer rental cottages for the visitors for $15.00 an hour and still do her chores to maintain their farm....just because she doesn't participate in working all winter and Spring, does not mean she is not working....just that she is not participating in what the gvt has determined as "the work force".... And there are lots and lots of Mainers that have opened up their own Internet shops together, selling vintage items or wood work items or handmade jellies or handmade furniture shops, where they do not work in "the work force" and pay Social Security etc, because it is considered a business or hobby....the income still gets added to their IRS taxed income, but may not be considered as participating in the work force.... and people BARTER up here...my husband is a guitarist, singer, song writer part time and this group of really cool farmers around here have hired him for several of their Lobster bake Parties to sing and have paid him a couple of hundred, for each of these parties he worked.... well, we became friends with these homesteaders and we began trading with them...my green and red peppers for their peaches kind of thing.....1 farms cattle/bison, one farms chickens and one farms pigs and is trying to get in to free range turkeys as well....(he's actually trying to get us to put up some coops for winter, on our property but we said no)

Anyway, just yesterday...the farmer that has cattle, also does construction work in the summer only...came over and tore apart our old rotten deck and made a new larger one with my husband...it took well over 8 hours to do...and we were going to pay him at least a couple of hundred for his direction and help and tools that he brought but he would NOT take a dime, but agreed to the next party that they had, that Matt would perform for free....Even / Steven, without a dollar being spent....

Sooo, it's like a whole 'nuther' country up here, compared to all of the States I have lived in....and that's part of why I love it here.

Yes, we do have a lot of poor people here, that do rely on social programs to make ends meet..... they are not getting rich off of it, and they would work in the workforce if there was work to be had...but one thing they are not doing, at least in my region of Maine, is sitting on their bums just collecting a check....they are working whether it is planting a garden to get their vegetables or making a deal/barter for cleaning someone's house for some beef or pork, until the jobs open up for the next summer's vacationers....even if it is not work in the workforce....