51 Documents: Hitler's Zionist Helpers

[Marc39]

The right to self-determination is the right that inhabitants, i.e. permanent residents, have to govern themselves. This right does not extend to foreigners.

Of the 37 people who signed Israel's declaration of independence, only one was born in Palestine. The rest were foreigners. The vast majority of Israel's original citizens were recent immigrants.

400 million Arabs have self determination in 30 countries. More than enough self determination, esp. since they have done nothing to advance their backward society beyond the Middle Ages.

An Juss like joo, Mahhhhkee. They are "self chosen"

You're ugly and have a small penis.

 

[georgephillip]

In a "Letter from Tel Aviv" Avishai Ehrlich writes of the sadness he feels watching tens of thousands of Arabs and Jews evacuate their homes in the midst of "the most beautiful eco-system in Israel, the Carmel mountain forest, destroyed for at least 50-60 years."

Ehrlich question why... a "permanent war society" would not have a "National Fire Fighting Authority properly financed and maintained by (the) central government" instead of relying on fire services financed entirely by local authorities.

And he also notes the aid sent by some of Israel's closest (geographically speaking) neighbors:

" What is impressive, though, is that help came promptly from Turkey, Jordan, and Egypt.

"Even the Palestinians have sent two fire engines as a token of solidarity."

Right wing Jews apparently are not fooled by "tokens of solidarity" and point their fingers at "arsonists" among Palestinian citizens of Israel:

"...This comes in the midst of anti-Arab laws advanced by the most right-wing coalition government Israel has had for many years.

"A survey, published just this week, by the 'Democracy Institute' has shown a majority of Israelis supporting an ethnic cleansing of Arabs in Israel.

"Also, according to the survey, in case of war the Jewish majority supports incarcerating Israeli Arabs in detention camps, as the Americans treated their Japanese citizens during WW2.

"A vast majority of Israelis do not think that Arab citizens should participate in major decisions, such as the conditions of peace.

"(For more on this, see 'Survey: Israel Yet to Grasp Concept of Democracy' in Haaretz.)

"The Carmel area is inhabited by Jews and Arabs alike, and Arab villages have been damaged as well!

"These unproven allegations are themselves petrol bombs lobbed by political arsonists into an already inflammatory situation between Arabs and Jews in Israel.

"The right in Israel is playing with fire!

 

[Marc39]

In a "Letter from Tel Aviv" Avishai Ehrlich writes of the sadness he feels watching tens of thousands of Arabs and Jews evacuate their homes in the midst of "the most beautiful eco-system in Israel, the Carmel mountain forest, destroyed for at least 50-60 years."

I am an Israeli Arab and I support Israel.

Why? Because, I can express myself freely. I'm a free man living in a free country. With my family situation, if I was living in an Arab country, I will be killed long time ago. With my mind and my way of living and my way of thinking, I'm surely already have been killed long time ago.

Why? Because, I love freedom. I adore liberty. And, in Israel, simply, you can express that. Can you imagine if you were a Jewish man living in an Arab country and Parliament member and trying to curse your country, they will kill you straight away. Look what Israel is doing with Arabs in Parliament, they listen, it's a democracy, no problem. They [Arabs] are shouting freely against Israel in the Parliament. This is the truth.
I'm proud to be an Arab living in Israel. I know Arabs they will hate me and kill me, but I don't care. I care about the truth. The truth is there is no much problems with Arabs in Israel. Poor people in Israel if they want to study in the university and clever, they can apply to the university and if they are really wise they can go study free. And, they don't have to pay even if they are an Arab. Israel gives you an opportunity to learn free.

There are very good things in Israel. Health security, in Israel if you are Arab and have any medical problem, you can be fixed for free, You don't pay a penny. They give you life security, no problem. You can work like everyone and you get your pension. Everyone in Israel have a pension. Arabs and Jewish they get the same. Arab doctor and Jewish doctor, they get the same salary. Arab teacher and Jewish teacher, they get the same salary.

Arab student and Jewish student they get the same education. It's the same. The dreams of life, quite the same. If you are good citizen, you have no problems. You can live free. You can go wherever you like. You can choose, you can get inside any group you want.

Honestly, I served in the Israeli army. What is the problem? You want to tell me Arabs don't kill each other? Look in Iraq, they are brothers living in the same neighborhood and they are killing each other. I'm living here, my family is here, everyone I care about is here--my wife, my daughters is here. This is the truth: I'm proud being an Arab living in Israel.

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[georgephillip]

Assuming anything you ever "write" conforms to reality, are you one Jew who supports incarcerating Israeli Arabs in the event of war?

If so, doesn't that make you at least as racist as Jim Crow USA?

 

[Marc39]

Assuming anything you ever "write" conforms to reality, are you one Jew who supports incarcerating Israeli Arabs in the event of war?

If so, doesn't that make you at least as racist as Jim Crow USA?

The vast majority of Israeli Arabs are enemies of the state. In the event of war, Israeli Arabs would engage in acts of treason and, thus, incarcerating them would be entirely prudent. After, they should be deported

 

[georgephillip]

Thank you for your response.

Is it fair to say you're not in favor of transforming Israel into "one binational, democratic state for all Palestinians and Jews in historic Palestine"?

Israel's Self Destruction

 

[Marc39]

Thank you for your response.

Is it fair to say you're not in favor of transforming Israel into "one binational, democratic state for all Palestinians and Jews in historic Palestine"?

Palestinians do not exist, dummy, and Israel is a sovereign state established under international law. They are merely Arabs, with nearly 30 Arab countries.

No wonder you have zero reputational points, dummy.

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen...

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.

Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Arab American Journalist Joe Farah...

There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.

Myths of the Middle East


Arab Commentator Azmi Bishara...

Well, I dont think there is a Palestinian nation at all. I think there is an Arab nation. I always thought so and I did not change my mind. I do not think there is a Palestinian nation, I think its a colonialist invention - Palestinian nation. When were there any Palestinians? Where did it come from? I think there is an Arab nation. I never turned to be a Palestinian nationalist, despite of my decisive struggle against the occupation. I think that until the end of the 19th century, Palestine was the south of Greater Syria.

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[RadiomanATL]

Sick spammer.

Not based on reputational points, of which you have not one.

You seem very concerned with rep points.

 

[Marc39]

Sick spammer.

Not based on reputational points, of which you have not one.

You seem very concerned with rep points.

You seem pitifully uninformed. Go to mommy

 

[RadiomanATL]

Facts prove otherwise.

Enjoy.

 

[Marc39]

Facts prove otherwise.

Enjoy.

In your delusional mind

 

[georgephillip]

"The collapse of the three empires ruling Poland gave the Polish capitalists an independent state that they had long ceased to want.

"After the failure of the 1863 insurrection against tsarism, they had begun to see the Russian empire as a huge market and saw no reason to cut themselves off from it.

"The enemy, they argued, was not Russia but the Jews and the German Protestants who dominated 'their' home market.

"Nationalism became the preserve of the working class and its Polska Partja Socjalistyczna (PPS)

Zionism in...

 

[Marc39]

"The collapse of the three empires ruling Poland gave the Polish capitalists an independent state that they had long ceased to want.

"After the failure of the 1863 insurrection against tsarism, they had begun to see the Russian empire as a huge market and saw no reason to cut themselves off from it.

"The enemy, they argued, was not Russia but the Jews and the German Protestants who dominated 'their' home market.

"Nationalism became the preserve of the working class and its Polska Partja Socjalistyczna (PPS)

Zionism in...

BOGUS website. No reputational point for you

 

[georgephillip]

Israel"s Mother of the Year?:

"NEW YORK (AP) - A Hasidic rabbi and three of his sons are suspected of sexually abusing at least four female relatives, after the rabbi's eldest victim — his daughter — confided in a co-worker at a Jewish school, police said Friday.

The 58-year-old father and his 21-year-old son fled to Israel two days ago and are wanted for questioning in the case, police said.

"They were apparently driven to the airport by the mother.

"Two other sons, a 24-year-old and a 15-year-old, were arrested on sexual abuse and rape charges. It was unclear whether they had attorneys, and a message left at the home wasn't immediately returned."

FOX News

 

[Marc39]

Israel"s Mother of the Year?:

Islam's Perfect Man Muhammad: Illiterate, cave-dwelling pedophile child molester married to a 6 year old little girl who still played with her toys.

Sahih Bukhari 5, 58, 236...

Narrated Hisham's father:

Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

 

[georgephillip]

It sounds like you're jealous of Muhammad.

Maybe you should ask the baby killer Moses for help.

Or tell us some more racist jokes.

 

[Marc39]

It sounds like you're jealous of Muhammad.

Maybe you should ask the baby killer Moses for help.

Or tell us some more racist jokes.

Winston Churchill...

We owe to the Jews in the Christian revelation a system of ethics which, even if it were entirely separated from the supernatural, would be incomparably the most precious possession of mankind, worth in fact the fruits of all wisdom and learning put together.

US President John Adams...

I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations. If I were an atheist of the other sect, who believe, or pretend to believe that all is ordered by chance, I should believe that chance had ordered the Jews to preserve and propagate to all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise, almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be the great essential principle of all morality, and consequently of all civilization.

President John Adams...

They [the Jewish People] are the most glorious nation that ever inhabited this Earth. The Romans and their empire were but a bubble in comparison to the Jews. They have given religion to three-quarters of the globe and have influenced the affairs of mankind more and more happily than any other nation, ancient or modern.

US President Warren G. Harding

It is impossible for one who has studied at all the service of the Hebrew people to avoid the faith that they will one day be restored to their historic national home and there enter on a new and yet greater phase of their contribution to the advance of humanity.

Alexis de Toqueville...

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.

Winston Churchill...

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.

The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

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[georgephillip]

What's the matter?

Have you exhausted your supply of sick racist Jew Jokes, Joke?

 

[Marc39]

What's the matter?

Have you exhausted your supply of sick racist Jew Jokes, Joke?

[alcoholic]

 

[georgephillip]

According to Lenni Brenner the answer is yes, and there's ample historical record to prove it:

"Zionism convicts itself. On June 21, 1933, the German Zionist Federation sent a secret memorandum to the Nazis:

"Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition.

"Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear, which it seeks to overcome by carrying out its challenge to transform Jewish life completely...

Linking assimilationist trends with deterioration seems like bedrock for Nazis and Zionists alike. Naturally, conservatives in both movements sought refuge in their pasts.

"Zionism believes that a rebirth of national life, such as is occurring in German life through adhesion to Christian and national values, must also take place in the Jewish national group.

"For the Jew, too, origin, religion, community of fate and group consciousness must be of decisive significance in the shaping of his life.

"This means that the egotistic individualism which arose in the liberal era must be overcome by public spiritedness and by willingness to accept responsibility."

51 Documents