bucs90
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And the point? VA, NC, FL, Obama won. He won a lot of individual counties in the South, although maybe not the particular state.
Thats kind of a bigoted premise to assume all Southerners are racist and therefore would vote for Jim Crow laws even today. In fact, the cases of high racial tension we see in the news today is coming from: LA, Oakland, Phoenix, Chicago, Detoit, New York, Boston, Berkeley, Cincinatti, Philly, Pittsburgh, Jersey, etc, etc. I am truly proud of the way in which people of all races have learned to live together in the South with fewer big incidents of racial tension than the rest of the country.
In fact, taking into account the conditions in the South in the 50's and 60's compared to the rest of America, and looking at the South's race relations now compared with the rest of the country, I'd say the South has made 10X more progress in race relations than the rest of the country. Maybe because we have fewer major cities, or maybe we've gotten used to one another, or who knows. But it seems for every 1 incident of racial tension in the South, there are 10 more nationwide.
My theory? The last couple generations of Southerners have tried harder to make racial relation progress because of our past, where that effort is not as strong in other parts of the country where there wasn't a stigma attached to their people from birth as being racists. And now, the rest of the country is trying to come to terms with race relations and having difficulty, while in my opinion, much of the South has already done so.
Of course, some will say I'm crazy and the South is more racist than anywhere else. I'd also bet they've never lived here very long. In my visits across the South, the people of Atlanta, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Nashville, Memhpis, get along great with very little racial tension compared to that in Detroit, Philly, Oakland, LA, NY. The one Southern city I will say hasn't moved past race is New Orleans. In large part due to Mayor Ray Nagin.
1.) Despite what you said, he didn't win the Southern Vote.
2.) Nobody said all people from the south are racist. Jillian is accurately remarking in some parts of the South that today Jim Crow laws would likely still exist.
3.) I'd stop randomly naming places if I were you.
4.) Link for your every 1, there's 10 statistics? If not, I call bullshit.
1- He wouldnt' win the entire South if taken by itself. He did win the big states, VA, NC, FL.
2- I'm simply going to disagree. Being a life-long Southerner, I can say in my travels across the South living an many places the attitudes towards race have drastically changed. I don't think anywhere in the South would Jim Crow like laws pass. Some would vote in favor, of course, but nowhere would it win 50%+ of the population's vote.
3- Randomly? Those are all cities that have headlined Fox, CNN, NBC at some point in the last few years with racial violence breaking out. That leads to 4:
4:
Oakland- Racial violence and tension over Oakland PD shootings
NY- Do I need to list the cases of racial tension and violence? Amongst all races?
LA- See NY. Race riots. Rodney King. Hispanic vs Black vs White gang racial violence.
Chicago- See NY and LA.
Philly- Black Panther incident.
Phoenix- Racial violence, Hispanics throwing bottles at cops, Hispanic/Non-Hispanic tension
Boston- "Police acted stupidly", we all know the race element that one brought out. And of course the long history of the Irish racial tension in Boston, NY.
Seattle- white cop vs black female violent encounter, black community outrage, black shooter seeking out 4 white cops to ambush and kill
My point is, I could google and post hundreds of cases of racial tension and violence in non-Southern cities. To continue assuming racism is exclusive to the South is just wrong and ignorant. And in my opinion, I believe through all our past troubles, the South has progressed BEYOND the rest of the country in race relations. New Orleans, as I said, is in my opinion the worst place in the South right now where old racism still exists.