61 year old woman beaten after she runs out of bullets for her gun...magazine limits are stupid...

[strollingbones]

guy i dont give a flying fuck about all those stats....all i care about...is when push comes to shove....i got not only the needed weapons but the knowing to use them wisely

 

[2aguy]

According to the story this woman was not the first victim they attacked....they found a purse from another victim in the trash can of the gas station the one thug was parked at....

She stopped 2 thugs, so please.....let's stop bitching about her marksmanship......good for her....she did her best.

 

[strollingbones]

o dont get me wrong great for her....she lived....simple as that....its odd when you live in an area where most people are armed....guns dont seem to be the first answer to things...in a weird way people are calmer..

 

[2aguy]

2 trained cops, at short range, fire 3 bullets....miss all 3.....but they did manage to hit a couple of bystanders...just not the actual perp...

So.....she has a better hit percentage than at least 2 trained New York Cops......

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/n...-square-police-wound-two-bystanders.html?_r=0

Two officers opened fire, discharging a total of three bullets. They missed the man, but struck two women nearby, including one who had been leaning against her walker; the bullet wound to her leg sent her tumbling to the ground. Other officers rushed toward the suspect; a sergeant used a Taser on the man, and he was quickly subdued.

 

[2aguy]

o dont get me wrong great for her....she lived....simple as that....its odd when you live in an area where most people are armed....guns dont seem to be the first answer to things...in a weird way people are calmer..

She woke up with 2 strangers in her house.......I would suggest that a gun might have been a good pick........

 

[strollingbones]

that is just sad

 

[strollingbones]

that would be my pick....if i were alone...i however failed my sons...security check...failed it all to hell

 

[Muhammed]

Sounds like she needs to work on her shooting skills. While I don't support any sort of mag cap laws, I think that the most restrictive mag cap limit is 7 rounds. That is, you cannot have a mag that holds more than 7 rounds.

If you have 2 home invaders and 7 rounds to use, and the distance between gun muzzle and target is probably 10 ft or less, then 7 shots ought to be plenty. If she had chosen a revolver she would have only had 5-7 rounds (possibly more with a .22 revolver depending on what she has).

So it sounds to me not that the mag cap law caused her beating. It sounds line she was unable to neutralize the threat due to her poor shooting skills. Think about it, if she could not take out 2 perps with 7 rounds, then another 7-8 rounds may not of mattered anyway. She was most likely just pointing her gun, closing her eyes and pulling the trigger as fast as she could. Clearly she lacked training and/or clarity of mind at the time of the attack.

I am with you 99.9% of the time, 2aguy. This is the 0.1%.

It's not a video game, dude.

How do you know she didn't have 2 rounds and only missed with one?

 

[JimBowie1958]

2 thugs break into a 61 year old woman's home...so she shoots one but misses the other one....and runs out of bullets......then the other thug beats her......this is why magazine limit laws are stupid, and pointless....

Woman Shoots Suspect, Runs Out of Bullets, Plans to Buy 'Another Gun' - Breitbart

Over the weekend, a 61-year-old woman awoke to two suspects, unloaded her gun on them, and plans to buy “another gun” in case such an incident occurs again.
The woman lives in the vicinity of Terrell, Texas, but wishes to remain unidentified for her own security.

According to CBS DFW, the woman grabbed her gun when she heard the suspects in her home.

Upon seeing them, she opened fire, shooting one in the stomach but emptying every bullet in her gun without hitting the second suspect.

She surmises that the suspects heard her gun as it began to “click” and realized she was out of rounds.

At that point, the uninjured suspect allegedly began to beat her, leaving the woman with “a concussion and her face was covered with cuts and bruises.”

The woman called police after the suspects fled and the injured one — 21-year-old Saul Guzman — was quickly captured at Texas Regional Medical Center in Sunnyvale, seeking treatment for his gunshot wound. The second suspect — 21-year-old Pedro Guzman — was captured sitting in his car at a gas station across the street from the medical center.

The woman said she plans to install a security system so she can know if someone is in her house as soon as they enter.

She also said she plans to buy “another gun.” She urged other woman to do the same, saying, “I hope other women will take note. I am glad I was able to defend myself.”

Thanks to this woman, at least two a**hole thugs are off the streets, at least for a while....

The Democrats have to protect their leg breakers and loan sharks dude.

 

[ClosedCaption]

When someone doesnt have a gun the OP says "good thing they didnt have a gun *wink wink*" as if thats the end all be all.

Then this lady actually has a gun, doesnt become Bang Bang Jane missing and the OP moves the goal posts to where if only granny had a should strap of ammo like Rambo it wouldve been fine.

No twit....the thread is in response to anti gun morons who want to limit how much ammo a victim can have....and the lead anti gun moron says they don't need more than 2 bullets since most self defense encounters only need 2.........

Again, she hit 1 out of 2 and put both of them in jail by her actions...she saved who knows how many others from being attacked by these monsters .....good for her...

There is no "lead anti gun" person. Thats just the person with the most extreme views that you attempt to hold up as representing everyone. You see? Instead of responding to me you just jumped behind the most extreme opinion and presented to me as if I should address it when you cant even address me.

 

[ZackB]

Sounds like she needs to work on her shooting skills. While I don't support any sort of mag cap laws, I think that the most restrictive mag cap limit is 7 rounds. That is, you cannot have a mag that holds more than 7 rounds.

If you have 2 home invaders and 7 rounds to use, and the distance between gun muzzle and target is probably 10 ft or less, then 7 shots ought to be plenty. If she had chosen a revolver she would have only had 5-7 rounds (possibly more with a .22 revolver depending on what she has).

So it sounds to me not that the mag cap law caused her beating. It sounds line she was unable to neutralize the threat due to her poor shooting skills. Think about it, if she could not take out 2 perps with 7 rounds, then another 7-8 rounds may not of mattered anyway. She was most likely just pointing her gun, closing her eyes and pulling the trigger as fast as she could. Clearly she lacked training and/or clarity of mind at the time of the attack.

I am with you 99.9% of the time, 2aguy. This is the 0.1%.

Sorry......there are stories of trained police officers.....several in the same shooting event missing every single shot on the perp....and hitting everyone else around the perp....she hit 1 out of 2.......she did her job. Had she had more ammo she might have hit the other guy.....

If it was a revolver...which it sounds like....she likely missed 3 times........give her 17+1....and she now has another 14 tries at hitting the other thug...and even if she missed...that much lead coming down range on the asshole would have been more likely to drive him out of the house....

we do not give the anti gunners one more gun, magazine, bullet or piece of equipment.........

Hey, I'm with you 100% on having it legal to have high cap mags. You never know when you may need it. But this is a situation where having an autoloader with a high cap mag may not have even saved her. But it could have saved her, and it is that POSSIBILITY it could have saved her that warrants allowing citizens to carry gun with as much ammo as they like and the type of ammo they like.

However, there are too many variables here to blame this on leftist gun laws as a causal relationship. The woman should have been shooting a shot gun with OO buckshot, or maybe a Judge revolver loaded with buckshot wielding .410s. She should have been shooting something that is a little more forgiving when it comes to accuracy if she needs it (which, obviously, she did). This, as much as anything, caused this woman to be beaten and victimized.

 

[OldLady]

that is why i prefer a shotgun

And if you take a top democrat's (Biden) advice, you shoot through the door without knowing who's on the other side.

Wasn't that the legless South African athlete? Can't remember his name.

 

[ZackB]

Sounds like she needs to work on her shooting skills. While I don't support any sort of mag cap laws, I think that the most restrictive mag cap limit is 7 rounds. That is, you cannot have a mag that holds more than 7 rounds.

If you have 2 home invaders and 7 rounds to use, and the distance between gun muzzle and target is probably 10 ft or less, then 7 shots ought to be plenty. If she had chosen a revolver she would have only had 5-7 rounds (possibly more with a .22 revolver depending on what she has).

So it sounds to me not that the mag cap law caused her beating. It sounds line she was unable to neutralize the threat due to her poor shooting skills. Think about it, if she could not take out 2 perps with 7 rounds, then another 7-8 rounds may not of mattered anyway. She was most likely just pointing her gun, closing her eyes and pulling the trigger as fast as she could. Clearly she lacked training and/or clarity of mind at the time of the attack.

I am with you 99.9% of the time, 2aguy. This is the 0.1%.

It's not a video game, dude.

How do you know she didn't have 2 rounds and only missed with one?

The OP implies a causal relationship between the woman's fate and the gun laws. I am saying - implying - that there are too many variables to draw any conclusions in this particular case.

 

[ZackB]

2 thugs break into a 61 year old woman's home...so she shoots one but misses the other one....and runs out of bullets......then the other thug beats her......this is why magazine limit laws are stupid, and pointless....

Woman Shoots Suspect, Runs Out of Bullets, Plans to Buy 'Another Gun' - Breitbart

Over the weekend, a 61-year-old woman awoke to two suspects, unloaded her gun on them, and plans to buy “another gun” in case such an incident occurs again.
The woman lives in the vicinity of Terrell, Texas, but wishes to remain unidentified for her own security.

According to CBS DFW, the woman grabbed her gun when she heard the suspects in her home.

Upon seeing them, she opened fire, shooting one in the stomach but emptying every bullet in her gun without hitting the second suspect.

She surmises that the suspects heard her gun as it began to “click” and realized she was out of rounds.

At that point, the uninjured suspect allegedly began to beat her, leaving the woman with “a concussion and her face was covered with cuts and bruises.”

The woman called police after the suspects fled and the injured one — 21-year-old Saul Guzman — was quickly captured at Texas Regional Medical Center in Sunnyvale, seeking treatment for his gunshot wound. The second suspect — 21-year-old Pedro Guzman — was captured sitting in his car at a gas station across the street from the medical center.

The woman said she plans to install a security system so she can know if someone is in her house as soon as they enter.

She also said she plans to buy “another gun.” She urged other woman to do the same, saying, “I hope other women will take note. I am glad I was able to defend myself.”

Thanks to this woman, at least two a**hole thugs are off the streets, at least for a while....

or maybe she shouldn't have had a gun at all.

It's her Constitutional right to have a gun.

which doesn't mean she should have one.

if you do have one, you'd better know how to use it.

Jill would be more satisfied too see granny raped, tortured and murdered than to allow her to exercise her constitutional right to own a firearm.

 

[Muhammed]

2 thugs break into a 61 year old woman's home...so she shoots one but misses the other one....and runs out of bullets......then the other thug beats her......this is why magazine limit laws are stupid, and pointless....

Woman Shoots Suspect, Runs Out of Bullets, Plans to Buy 'Another Gun' - Breitbart

Over the weekend, a 61-year-old woman awoke to two suspects, unloaded her gun on them, and plans to buy “another gun” in case such an incident occurs again.
The woman lives in the vicinity of Terrell, Texas, but wishes to remain unidentified for her own security.

According to CBS DFW, the woman grabbed her gun when she heard the suspects in her home.

Upon seeing them, she opened fire, shooting one in the stomach but emptying every bullet in her gun without hitting the second suspect.

She surmises that the suspects heard her gun as it began to “click” and realized she was out of rounds.

At that point, the uninjured suspect allegedly began to beat her, leaving the woman with “a concussion and her face was covered with cuts and bruises.”

The woman called police after the suspects fled and the injured one — 21-year-old Saul Guzman — was quickly captured at Texas Regional Medical Center in Sunnyvale, seeking treatment for his gunshot wound. The second suspect — 21-year-old Pedro Guzman — was captured sitting in his car at a gas station across the street from the medical center.

The woman said she plans to install a security system so she can know if someone is in her house as soon as they enter.

She also said she plans to buy “another gun.” She urged other woman to do the same, saying, “I hope other women will take note. I am glad I was able to defend myself.”

Thanks to this woman, at least two a**hole thugs are off the streets, at least for a while....

or maybe she shouldn't have had a gun at all.

Why not?

 

[Rustic]

Dick Tiny scours the internet every day hoping to find these kind of stories... but he never looks at stories like this one.

Boy, 12, accidentally shoots and kills himself while playing with parents' gun

A 12-year-old boy is dead after shooting himself in the garage of a Gwinnett County home and police are trying to find out how the boy obtained the gun, which family members said was normally locked away in a safe place.

The shooting happened shortly before 6 p.m. at a home in the 4900 block of Appaloosa Trail, according to Gwinnett County police. Investigators said the 12-year-old and a 9-year-old boy were inside the garage playing when the shooting occurred, police spokesman Cpl. Deon Washington said.

“The twelve year old was playing with a handgun when it went off by accident,” Washington said. “The mother was inside the home when the shot was fired.”

You like to talk about tiny dicks apparently… LOL

 

[2aguy]

Dick Tiny scours the internet every day hoping to find these kind of stories... but he never looks at stories like this one.

Boy, 12, accidentally shoots and kills himself while playing with parents' gun

A 12-year-old boy is dead after shooting himself in the garage of a Gwinnett County home and police are trying to find out how the boy obtained the gun, which family members said was normally locked away in a safe place.

The shooting happened shortly before 6 p.m. at a home in the 4900 block of Appaloosa Trail, according to Gwinnett County police. Investigators said the 12-year-old and a 9-year-old boy were inside the garage playing when the shooting occurred, police spokesman Cpl. Deon Washington said.

“The twelve year old was playing with a handgun when it went off by accident,” Washington said. “The mother was inside the home when the shot was fired.”

You like to talk about tiny dicks apparently… LOL

It is a topic he is intimately familiar with.....

 

[Rustic]

Dick Tiny scours the internet every day hoping to find these kind of stories... but he never looks at stories like this one.

Boy, 12, accidentally shoots and kills himself while playing with parents' gun

A 12-year-old boy is dead after shooting himself in the garage of a Gwinnett County home and police are trying to find out how the boy obtained the gun, which family members said was normally locked away in a safe place.

The shooting happened shortly before 6 p.m. at a home in the 4900 block of Appaloosa Trail, according to Gwinnett County police. Investigators said the 12-year-old and a 9-year-old boy were inside the garage playing when the shooting occurred, police spokesman Cpl. Deon Washington said.

“The twelve year old was playing with a handgun when it went off by accident,” Washington said. “The mother was inside the home when the shot was fired.”

You like to talk about tiny dicks apparently… LOL

It is a topic he is intimately familiar with.....

Almost as if he's envious… LOL

 

[2aguy]

Sounds like she needs to work on her shooting skills. While I don't support any sort of mag cap laws, I think that the most restrictive mag cap limit is 7 rounds. That is, you cannot have a mag that holds more than 7 rounds.

If you have 2 home invaders and 7 rounds to use, and the distance between gun muzzle and target is probably 10 ft or less, then 7 shots ought to be plenty. If she had chosen a revolver she would have only had 5-7 rounds (possibly more with a .22 revolver depending on what she has).

So it sounds to me not that the mag cap law caused her beating. It sounds line she was unable to neutralize the threat due to her poor shooting skills. Think about it, if she could not take out 2 perps with 7 rounds, then another 7-8 rounds may not of mattered anyway. She was most likely just pointing her gun, closing her eyes and pulling the trigger as fast as she could. Clearly she lacked training and/or clarity of mind at the time of the attack.

I am with you 99.9% of the time, 2aguy. This is the 0.1%.

Sorry......there are stories of trained police officers.....several in the same shooting event missing every single shot on the perp....and hitting everyone else around the perp....she hit 1 out of 2.......she did her job. Had she had more ammo she might have hit the other guy.....

If it was a revolver...which it sounds like....she likely missed 3 times........give her 17+1....and she now has another 14 tries at hitting the other thug...and even if she missed...that much lead coming down range on the asshole would have been more likely to drive him out of the house....

we do not give the anti gunners one more gun, magazine, bullet or piece of equipment.........

Hey, I'm with you 100% on having it legal to have high cap mags. You never know when you may need it. But this is a situation where having an autoloader with a high cap mag may not have even saved her. But it could have saved her, and it is that POSSIBILITY it could have saved her that warrants allowing citizens to carry gun with as much ammo as they like and the type of ammo they like.

However, there are too many variables here to blame this on leftist gun laws as a causal relationship. The woman should have been shooting a shot gun with OO buckshot, or maybe a Judge revolver loaded with buckshot wielding .410s. She should have been shooting something that is a little more forgiving when it comes to accuracy if she needs it (which, obviously, she did). This, as much as anything, caused this woman to be beaten and victimized.

Actually...I am not blaming magazine limit laws on her not having enough bullets.....I am using this story to show that the anti gunner argument that normal people only need 10 round magazines is stupid......no one knows how many rounds you will need to survive...and to put an artificial limit on the number simply because anti gunners hate guns is dumb.....

 

[2aguy]

Dick Tiny scours the internet every day hoping to find these kind of stories... but he never looks at stories like this one.

Boy, 12, accidentally shoots and kills himself while playing with parents' gun

A 12-year-old boy is dead after shooting himself in the garage of a Gwinnett County home and police are trying to find out how the boy obtained the gun, which family members said was normally locked away in a safe place.

The shooting happened shortly before 6 p.m. at a home in the 4900 block of Appaloosa Trail, according to Gwinnett County police. Investigators said the 12-year-old and a 9-year-old boy were inside the garage playing when the shooting occurred, police spokesman Cpl. Deon Washington said.

“The twelve year old was playing with a handgun when it went off by accident,” Washington said. “The mother was inside the home when the shot was fired.”

You like to talk about tiny dicks apparently… LOL

I think he is embarrassed because his partner, made of synthetic materials with which he has intimate relations, thinks he is.....lacking in that area. I keep telling him that those "dolls" are not real people and that he should not be embarrassed at lacking in that area.....but it really bothers him......

That and his sexual attraction to firearms.....that could be a dangerous fixation and I have pointed out he needs to get help with that.,,,.before he really hurts himself...