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Maybe because it's such a stupid question. The answer would be obvious to most people.
It's obvious to me, but I doubt you even understand the question. Suppose you answer it and prove me wrong, OK?
Oh, shut up, Ernie.
The reactionaries here are just pounding sand is all.
The yell "liberal" then cry when they are appropriately labeled and rebuked.
The school district is properly handling the issue.
Now for all of you reactionaries who are yelling about public school. Yes, if you own property, you will help pay for it. Tough beans. If you don't like it, send your child to private school or home school. You will still pay for public school, anywy. Tough beans.
If the child failed to follow orders from the administrators that threatened neither life nor life nor injury and that could be negotiated later in simple fashion, then the child was right to be turned around, handcuffed, and carted off to jail. Stupid kid. Stupid parents.
And, oh, to Ernie's question: shut up Ernie.
If the child failed to follow orders from the administrators that threatened neither life nor life nor injury and that could be negotiated later in simple fashion, then the child was right to be turned around, handcuffed, and carted off to jail. Stupid kid. Stupid parents.
And, oh, to Ernie's question: shut up Ernie.
If the child failed to follow orders from the administrators that threatened neither life nor life nor injury and that could be negotiated later in simple fashion, then the child was right to be turned around, handcuffed, and carted off to jail. Stupid kid. Stupid parents.
And, oh, to Ernie's question: shut up Ernie.
If you are trying to pretend to be a troll, you are way over doing it.
even trolls don't spout this kind of stuff as long as you have.
If a student is told to do or not do something, and if that order does not jeopardize his welfare physically, he better do it, or else. He can argue later.
The contrary of that, then, bripat, would be that you would approve of the teacher beating the student?
The difference is that the one happened in a tax-supported public institution sanctioned and governed by the laws of the land.
Your hypothetical is parent-child relations in the home. Different game, different rules.
One of my daughters did require a serious intervention of awareness training: straighten up or a six-month no-furlough internment at a psychiatric hospital for teenagers who just don't get that they are not in charge. Bright child: she got it. That was almost twenty years ago. She and her little ones are going with me to the petting zoo on Saturday.
Just another NRA radical. They brainwash them young.
" the student is facing charges which include obstruction and disturbing the education process."
Disturbing the education process? What kind of nazi ass law is that?
The contrary of that, then, bripat, would be that you would approve of the teacher beating the student?
The difference is that the one happened in a tax-supported public institution sanctioned and governed by the laws of the land.
Your hypothetical is parent-child relations in the home. Different game, different rules.
One of my daughters did require a serious intervention of awareness training: straighten up or a six-month no-furlough internment at a psychiatric hospital for teenagers who just don't get that they are not in charge. Bright child: she got it. That was almost twenty years ago. She and her little ones are going with me to the petting zoo on Saturday.
You were going to send the WRONG PERSON to the nut farm, dude!
"…the student is facing charges which include obstruction and disturbing the education process."
Disturbing the education process? What kind of nazi ass law is that?
It's what useless idiots like JakeTheFake cook up to make themselves feel powerful.
Ernie S., the story is what it is. If your child acted out in our school district when I was superintendent, I would have backed my administrators and teachers having your child sequestered until you got there. If you got loud and belligerent with them, you would have been on the way down to the county jail for booking then on to the magistrate. We found putting unruly parents under insurance bond based on performance always took care of the problem.
In public, we have laws. That you don't like them does not mean a fuck in there being executed.
Act out, and see what happens.
Jake claims he would "sequester" my child until I arrived.
I have zero tolerance for inept school districts. The last one that "sequestered" one of my children, tied him to a chair and left a welt in the shape of a hand print on his face. He was 5.
They bought me a house.
for the most part
we didnt have much trouble with the schools
when my boys went to school
however when i was a kid (7th grade)
a teacher punched me on the back of the neck
dad went to school
i was switched into another class
he was able to continue to assault children
I knew this poor kid have to have a cuckoo parent!!!!
When Your Parents Are TEApublican Gun-Worshiping Idiots (Video)
A Logan County Ohio 8th grader named Jared Marcum was suspended, arrested and is now facing two charges obstruction and disturbing the education process, for wearing a pro-NRA shirt featuring an assault weapon like the one used to slaughter 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary, to school.
WTRF7 News reported that Jareds father, Allen Lardieri, wasnt happy about leaving work early to pick up his son from jail.
Appearing in an interview by local news dressed up in his finest NRA gun-nut gear Allen Lardieri said, I dont see how anybody would have an issue with a hunting rifle and NRA put on a t-shirt, especially when policy doesnt forbid it.
Except thats not a hunting rifle on the shirt; its a military-style assault-type weapon, which is only good for hunting people. This is a familiar semantic argument that TEApublicans try to use when claiming that their semi-auto assault weapons with military accessories and hi-capacity magazines are just like any other hunting rifle.
Lardieri went on to say that Jared didnt become aggressive or violate any school policy, though Jared admitted that he refused to turn the shirt inside out, or put on a different one.
When Your Parents Are TEApublican Gun-Worshiping Idiots (Video) - Americans Against the Tea Party
When I was in 8th grade, a teacher grabbed a classmate and took him to the hall pinned him to the wall and was beating the crap out of him. The girls ran to get help and the boys mobbed the teacher. He left in handcuffs.for the most part
we didnt have much trouble with the schools
when my boys went to school
however when i was a kid (7th grade)
a teacher punched me on the back of the neck
dad went to school
i was switched into another class
he was able to continue to assault children
good
on the other hand
the wood shop teacher would punish students that acted badly
mostly fooling around with the shop tools
by a paddling from a chunk of board from the scrap box ( one whack)
at least you got to pick which piece he would use
--LOL
The rights of public safety always outweighs the right of a person's speech rights. No one gets to yell 'fire' in a theatre. No one is allowed to get overly vocal and belligerent with a teacher. The teacher is in charge and responsible for the welfare of the class, to which all class members must submit. Protocol exists for students to afterwards express complaints.
No one wonder the libertarian nonsense never gets much in the way of votes.
Yes, considering the state of American education, you're right. I'm surprised they get any votes at all since they are taught that the public rights (a fantasy) preclude individual rights.
That means no one has any rights but some nebulous concept called the public.
What a weak, silly country we've become.
And, if the shirt had a Vote For Obama message on it?
If it had a pro-gay rights message?
Pro-women's right to choose message?
All of you who are arguing for the kid's "right" to wear that message to school would be saying exactly the opposite if the message was for any of the above mentioned reasons. Every one of you have said you support giving away rights to The State.
As usual, the hypocrisy of the right wingers is just stunning.
I tried to illustrate that in a previous post, Luddley.And, if the shirt had a Vote For Obama message on it?
If it had a pro-gay rights message?
Pro-women's right to choose message?
All of you who are arguing for the kid's "right" to wear that message to school would be saying exactly the opposite if the message was for any of the above mentioned reasons. Every one of you have said you support giving away rights to The State.
As usual, the hypocrisy of the right wingers is just stunning.
Students have freedom of speech, period. They can, in the absence of a dress code preventing it, wear whatever message they want on their clothing, short the support of an illegal act.
Pro choice, gay rights, Alan Grayson for President, anti abortion, anti gay marriage or Alan West for President tee-shirts are protected, despite my feelings or yours.
It is not a teacher's job to promote an agenda. It is their job to teach a subject and promote individual thought, regardless of whether or not that thought is offensive to them personally.
So you see, The hypocrite is you, little man, as usual.
Nope.
I really don't have time to waste on this but you can start by reading the 1st amend. Look very carefully for the word "government". Second, as was pointed out earlier, the kid cannot yell "fire" in a theater (or school), third, read the rules, first sentence. he broke that rule. Fourth, the nra pushes violence in schools. Schools have the right to do whatever they must to keep violence out. Fifth, the kid was physical with the teacher and the teacher has the right AND DUTY to keep the peace, if for no other reason than the safety of the other kids and teachers. The school is private property and just like your home, they have the right to disallow any message they want without having to explain themselves. They put that fact in writing and the parent/kid agreed to it.
The real culprit here is the shitty parent who used his kid to push a violent agenda. Read the link. He did not take responsibility for his actions and neither did the kid.
Just be glad no one in that classroom had a gun with which to settle the altercation.
Have a nice day.
You are the people? How many, you sound like a marxist.
You have to follow basic rules in society.
You know that, you just don't like it.
Jake is a "Main Stream Republican" 15 votes
Jake is "An irrelevant Asshole" 32 votes
You know that. You just don't like it.
32 reactionary votes against me is a mark of my integrity and American virtue.
Reactionaries are nothing more than uber-sillies of the far right and don't count anymore.
