9/11 Explosive Connections - The 9/11 Masterminds

[irosie91]

BS did you pass high school physics?

I won the high jump every year.

I never won the high jump------but always aced physics and calculus

 

[the other mike]

BS did you pass high school physics?

I won the high jump every year.

I never won the high jump------but always aced physics and calculus

Sounds like my youngest brother who's an aerospace engineer. Graduated from Ga Tech and masters at J Hopkins.

 

[sparky]

By the way....someone mentioned the 'chain of custody' regarding nanothermite particles found at ground zero.

If the Grand Jury sees enough evidence to rule in favor
of opening a criminal investigation, all we have to do is exhume any one of the bodies and retrieve samples from their lungs full of dust that could have come from nowhere else, and it will be admissible in court.

But there were very few intact bodies left .......~S~

 

[irosie91]

By the way....someone mentioned the 'chain of custody' regarding nanothermite particles found at ground zero.

If the Grand Jury sees enough evidence to rule in favor
of opening a criminal investigation, all we have to do is exhume any one of the bodies and retrieve samples from their lungs full of dust that could have come from nowhere else, and it will be admissible in court.

But there were very few intact bodies left .......~S~

their "lung dust" is not going to include "thermite" anyway

 

[the other mike]

their "lung dust" is not going to include "thermite" anyway

Nanothermite. Big difference.
Traces of explosives in 9/11 dust, scientists say
A layer of dust lay over parts of Manhattan immediately following the collapse of the towers, and it was samples of this dust that Jones and fellow researchers requested in a 2006 paper, hoping to determine "the whole truth of the events of that day." They eventually tested four samples they received from New Yorkers.

One sample was from a man who had swept up a handful of dust on the Brooklyn Bridge, where he was walking when the second tower fell. As the journal authors note, "It was, therefore, definitely not contaminated by the steel-cutting or clean-up operations at Ground Zero, which began later. Furthermore, it is not mixed with dust from WTC-7, which fell hours later."

Another man collected dust in his apartment, about five blocks from the World Trade Center, on the morning of Sept. 12. There was a layer about an inch thick on a stack of folded laundry near an open window.

Red/gray chips, averaging in size between .2 and 3 mm, were found in all four dust samples. The chips were then analyzed using scanning electron microscopy and other high-tech tools.

The red layer of the chips, according to the researchers, contains a "highly energetic" form of thermite. While normal thermite (a mixture of finely granulated aluminum and an oxide of metal) can be incendiary, "super thermite" is explosive. He says there is no benign explanation for the thermite in the WTC dust.

 

[irosie91]

BS

 

[the other mike]

BS

Whatever you say Huckleberry.
If you want to be another rodeo monkey
I know some people you'll like when you make it down to hell.

 

[candycorn]

BS

Whatever you say Huckleberry.
If you want to be another rodeo monkey
I know some people you'll like when you make it down to hell.

Another video nobody will watch.

One would think that you’d realize by now nobody cares about these vids. Put it in writing; what you think happened. I’m sure it will be amusing.

 

[the other mike]

Another video nobody will watch.

Funny. I don't hear anyone else saying that.

 

[the other mike]

Everyone who sees this
will go back and watch all the
videos posted by Angelo.
Everyone who sees this
will go back and watch all the
videos posted by Angelo.
Everyone who sees this
will go back and watch all the
videos posted by Angelo.

 

[candycorn]

Another video nobody will watch.

Funny. I don't hear anyone else saying that.

You get a lot of comments from the vids?

 

[the other mike]

Another video nobody will watch.

Funny. I don't hear anyone else saying that.

You get a lot of comments from the vids?

I'm opening eyes to facts. It's fun.
You should try it.

For a truth denier like you , I'd
imagine it would be a heavy burden lifted
off your shoulders- to be able to finally
stop lying to everyone.

I'm not a truther or a conspiracy theorist. Just an American asking the questions
we should all be asking, sifting through a mountain of lies
and collecting all the facts. And I'll never stop, and
our numbers are growing faster than you disinformation
agents can keep up with us.

 

[candycorn]

Another video nobody will watch.

Funny. I don't hear anyone else saying that.

You get a lot of comments from the vids?

I'm opening eyes to facts. It's fun.
You should try it.

For a truth denier like you , I'd
imagine it would be a heavy burden lifted
off your shoulders- to be able to finally
stop lying to everyone.

I'm not a truther or a conspiracy theorist. Just an American asking the questions
we should all be asking, sifting through a mountain of lies
and collecting all the facts. And I'll never stop, and
our numbers are growing faster than you disinformation
agents can keep up with us.

You ask few, if any questions.
When the questions are answered….you reject the answer.
Pretty much the definition of a conspiracy theorist.

Anyway, that nobody listens to you should emphasize, to you, a need to change your moronic tactics. Nobody watches your video. Nobody follows your links. Nobody cares what you think because…amazingly….you won’t state what you think.

You’re welcome.

 

[the other mike]

You ask few, if any questions.
.

Whatever you say Huckleberry.

 

[the other mike]

Why was it the first priority to destroy the crime scene evidence ?
WTC Steel Removal
The Expeditious Destruction of the Evidence at Ground Zero
Steel was the structural material of the buildings. As such it was the most important evidence to preserve in order to puzzle out how the structures held up to the impacts and fires, but then disintegrated into rubble. Since the collapse of steel-framed skyscrapers due to fires is completely unprecedented, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of the vast crime and unprecedented engineering failure? They recycled it!

Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage. 1
The bulk of the steel was apparently shipped to China and India. The Chinese firm Baosteel purchased 50,000 tons at a rate of $120 per ton, compared to an average price of $160 paid by local mills in the previous year. 2

Mayor Bloomberg, a former engineering major, was not concerned about the destruction of the evidence:

If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything. 3
The pace of the steel's removal was very rapid, even in the first weeks after the attack. By September 29, 130,000 tons of debris -- most of it apparently steel -- had been removed. 4

During the official investigation controlled by FEMA, one hundred fifty pieces of steel were saved for future study. 5 One hundred fifty pieces out of hundreds of thousands of pieces! Moreover it is not clear who made the decision to save these particular pieces. It is clear that the volunteer investigators were doing their work at the Fresh Kills dump, not at Ground Zero, so whatever steel they had access to was first picked over by the people running the cleanup operation.

LINK
Highly Sensitive Garbage
Given that the people in charge considered the steel garbage, useless to any investigation in this age of computer simulations, they certainly took pains to make sure it didn't end up anywhere other than a smelting furnace. They installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks that was carrying loads away from Ground Zero, at a cost of $1000 each. The securitysolutions.com website has an article on the tracking system with this passage.

Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed. 6
LINK
Shielding Investigators From the Evidence
According to FEMA, more than 350,000 tons of steel were extracted from Ground Zero and barged or trucked to salvage yards where it was cut up for recycling. Four salvage yards were contracted to process the steel.

• Hugo Nue Schnitzer at Fresh Kills (FK) Landfill, Staten Island, NJ
• Hugo Nue Schnitzer's Claremont (CM) Terminal in Jersey City, NJ
• Metal Management in Newark (NW), NJ
• Blanford and Co. in Keasbey (KB), NJ

FEMA's BPAT, who wrote the WTC Building Performance Study, were not given access to Ground Zero. Apparently, they were not even allowed to collect steel samples from the salvage yards. According toAppendix D of the Study:

Collection and storage of steel members from the WTC site was not part of the BPS Team efforts sponsored by FEMA and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE).
LINK
Fate of Some Steel Revealed Years Later

The base of one of the Twin Towers' massive core columns stored in a hanger at JFK Airport is shown in the film Up From Zero.
Given that the removal and recycling of World Trade Center seel continued over the objections of victims' families and others seeking a genuine investigation, revelations, years later, that some of Twin Towers' steel parts were preserved comes as something of a surprise. Many of the heaviest steel pieces from the Twin Towers are stored in an 80,000-square-foot hangar at John F. Kennedy International Airport. These include some of the base sections of the Towers' massive core columns and 13 of the 153 steel trees from the bases of the Towers' perimeter walls. 7 Some of these pieces are shown in the film Up From Zero.

The hangar, which reportedly holds one five-hundredth of the "total debris field", is off-limits to the public. 8 Scott Huston, president of the Graystone Society, is attempting to obtain three of the steel trees for the National Iron & Steel Heritage Museum in Coatesville, PA. 9

The discovery of the existence of intact pieces of the Twin Towers' columns would appear to be good news for independent investigators who would like to test samples of steel. However, the locations of these pieces within the towers suggests a reason they were allowed to be preserved. The large core column sections stood on the Towers' foundations, seven stories below street level, and the perimeter column trees were from the lobby level, just above street level. Only these lower sections of the Towers were spared the blasting that shredded the steel frames down to about their fourth stories. This is evident from the facts that 18 people survived in the lower reaches of the North Tower's core, and fragments of the perimeter walls of each Tower remained standing.

Although it was believed that the last structrural steel remains had been removed from the site in May of 2003, in January of 2007, several large steel pieces were recovered in excavations of the site, below a road created during the cleanup operation. The excavation, which was commissioned to discover human remains, had already yielded nearly 300 bones. Two steel remains were described as columns, measuring about 18 feet long and weighing perhaps 60 tons, and three connected steel columns from the perimeter walls. The steel beams had apparently been buried during the cleanup operation, perhaps to stabalize the ground. Also discovered at the opposite side of the WTC site was a column which "appeared to be burned at one end", according to a person "with knowledge of the discovery".
9-11 Research: WTC Steel Removal

 

[the other mike]

Here is some more of the criminal evidence which doesn't require proof of chain of custody to be admissible....

...in court, when that day comes.

 

[P F Tinmore]

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The biggest things I call into question when viewing the trade center incidents.
Three buildings,two of which were among the tallest in the world,falling in their own foot print,one of which never got hit by a plane. I mean come on!!! You have two very tall buildings with the majority of the damage being on one side of the building. Shouldnt those buildings have fallen towards the side with the most damage? Then for all three to do the same thing? I call Bullshit.
Zero film from one the most surveilled buildings on the planet....the pentagon.
There's a shitload of other stuff that doesnt add up.
Call me skeptical....

wrong again----both buildings were struck by planes. Lots of film-----and me--eyewitness.
See a good neurologist

The planes were a diversion. They did not bring down the buildings.

 

[irosie91]

nope

 

[P F Tinmore]

BS

Whatever you say Huckleberry.
If you want to be another rodeo monkey
I know some people you'll like when you make it down to hell.

Another video nobody will watch.

One would think that you’d realize by now nobody cares about these vids. Put it in writing; what you think happened. I’m sure it will be amusing.

Ignorant by choice. Interesting concept.

 

[the other mike]

Ignorant by choice. Interesting concept.

Oh they watch everything. Their only concern
next to disinformation is control. They want to label us-- 'conspiracy theorists', activists, antiwar protesters, OWS, or anyone who questions 9/11--as potential terrorists and literally lock up any dissenters if things start to get
'out of hand'. And they're monitering us like guinea pigs as we speak. Look up who owns the cybersecurity firm called Coalfire and try to track how many billions their NSA, DHS, CIA and other agency contracts are pulling in.

If we stand in their way, we're a threat to national security right ?

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