9 out of 10 Americans completely wrong

The reason is that when an employer saves money by paying a substandard wage, the rest of us taxpayers have to step in to provide housing, food, healthcare and education subsidies

The employer banks the profit from low wages and the taxpayer makes up the difference

Why do "the rest of us taxpayers have to step in to provide housing, food, healthcare and education subsidies?"

Under what law do you derive this necessity? Is this one of those feel good liberal things? Where does the Constitution guarantee equal distribution of wealth?

You said, "the employer banks the profit from low wages and the taxpayer makes up the difference.." Employers set wages and prices based on consumer demand, employee demand, and competition. Why do you expect your employer to "donate" extra wages to you? Don't like it? Start your own business and pay everyone 6figures to flip burgers.

What company is paying their employees too little?

You want to increase American wages? You'll need to inflate the cost of imports. How? import taxes/duties... Result? Reduced exports when they do the same and increased cost at the register.

Under what law? The laws that our duly elected officials have passed to ensure that no person in this country will suffer

Employers compete in an artificial economy where the taxpayer makes up for his substandard pay.

Any employer whose full time employees need to be supported by the taxpayer is being paid too little

I see, so when the government takes money out of my paycheck for "redistribution purposes," my families' suffering due to said theft is ok because it's being use to reduce the suffering of someone else who does not work because they can't make enough money due to low wages being paid for flipping burgers? Gotcha. You call that a law. I call it socialism, aka. theft for the purpose of buying votes.

Your theory that "Employers compete in an artificial economy where the taxpayer makes up for his substandard pay" indicates you believe employers are somehow benefiting from taxpayer subsidies. ??? The VAST majority of welfare programs are for folks that don't work, don't have any income whatsoever. Most welfare programs require you to be earning little to no income. They take the jobs if they take one, that we used to give to high schoolers so that they can continue to earn less than the government maximum to receive benefits.

Or do you think we should pay folks 50k + benefits to bag groceries so they can live in a luxury apt off welfare?
 
So, we all should go to Communism?

Communism would be an overreach

What we need to do is examine the policies that enable the wealthy to accumulate and protect more wealth while inhibiting the wealth of working Americans.

Given the overwhelming amount of wealth controlled by such a small percentage, why do we continue policies that encourage more wealth to be concentrated there?

Still waiting for "Trickle Down"???

What we need to do is examine the policies that enable the wealthy to accumulate and protect more wealth while inhibiting the wealth of working Americans.

How does Bill Gates "inhibit the wealth of working Americnas"?

Now? not so much When he was running MSFT he did it by monopolizing the market and making sure the software was so buggy that you'd have to buy new stuff every couple years. Nudge :)
 
2nd issue explaining how it's broke: Culture has approved living off welfare as a plausible, viable, means for living in this country.

What is really broke is the large percentages od Americans who work full time yet do not make enough money to support their families needs for food, shelter, education and healthcare for their families

All while the wealthiest 1% accumulate a larger and larger slice of the pie


Why is that an issue? What makes you think one person should guaranteed to earn enough money to support all the needs and desires a large family?

I don't know anyone that's lacking for food, shelter, education, or healthcare in this country. Can you name one person?

I can name a lot of people. Go to your local community supper or food bank, you'll meet them too.
 
9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact - YouTube

Check out this video. What we believe is reality in wealth distribution isn't even close. The top 1% own 40% of the nations wealth while the bottom 80% own 7% of our nations wealth. 7%!

I don't understand how anyone can defend this.

I guess the bottom 80% need to start saving more.

How much do you expect someone on minimum wage to be able to save?

The fact is, a lot of middle class families struggle to make ends meet, even if they live sensibly.

Yeah, the whopping 5.2% of the hourly paid work force over the age of 16 that earns minimum wage 2011 BLS . The BLS won't include all workers (salaried workers) in their equation, because then that percentage drops dramatically lower. I fail to understand why people think there is this huge group of people trying to live off of a minimum wage income. There isn't.

Here is an informative article , median household income in 2011 was $51,413. I'd call that middle class. If a household is making $50k+ and can't save/invest money, then they are fools. I managed to become debt free (aside from my home mortgage) over 10 years ago on a household income of less than $35k. Oh, and by the way, I was a single parent with two children when I did it. Oh, and by the way #2, I didn't let my savings rate ever go below 5% of my gross income either.

Don't tell me "middle class families struggle to make ends meet, even if they live sensibly.", they aren't living sensibly if they can't make ends meet on a $50k income.
 
So, we all should go to Communism?

Communism would be an overreach

What we need to do is examine the policies that enable the wealthy to accumulate and protect more wealth while inhibiting the wealth of working Americans.

Given the overwhelming amount of wealth controlled by such a small percentage, why do we continue policies that encourage more wealth to be concentrated there?

Still waiting for "Trickle Down"???

What we need to do is examine the policies that enable the wealthy to accumulate and protect more wealth while inhibiting the wealth of working Americans.

How does Bill Gates "inhibit the wealth of working Americnas"?

By hiring "temporary" workers that he doesn't have to provide certain benefits for and by bringing in "guest workers" so he can keep the wages low.
 
2nd issue explaining how it's broke: Culture has approved living off welfare as a plausible, viable, means for living in this country.

What is really broke is the large percentages od Americans who work full time yet do not make enough money to support their families needs for food, shelter, education and healthcare for their families

All while the wealthiest 1% accumulate a larger and larger slice of the pie


Why is that an issue? What makes you think one person should guaranteed to earn enough money to support all the needs and desires a large family?

I don't know anyone that's lacking for food, shelter, education, or healthcare in this country. Can you name one person?

I remember watching this story......

America Now: Friends and Neighbors - Dateline NBC - America Now | NBC News
 
Good lord, another "they need to give me more so I don't have to do anything at all" thread by the site welfare queen.

Yay.

It is kind of funny Sallow derided the conservative "lottery mentality" which happens to be "pay to play" yet seems not to have a clue about the liberal "lottery mentality" which is nothing more than "let others pay so you can play"

Immie

I'm just glad I've never had to go before someone like kg to beg for help. Seeing as how she's a social worker, actually makes money off of providing aid to people yet believes every single person who comes to her for aid is LYING!

Then calls me the site welfare queen? Why? Because my youngest son is low functioning autism and 26 years old and we managed to finally get him in a home paid for by the state. If that makes me the site welfare queen, so be it.
KG shouldn't call you a "welfare queen".
But why do think it is the states responsibility (tax payer) to support your son?
I didn't cause his autism. I'm not the fault of his condition. Why do you think it is my responsibility to provide for him?
 
It is kind of funny Sallow derided the conservative "lottery mentality" which happens to be "pay to play" yet seems not to have a clue about the liberal "lottery mentality" which is nothing more than "let others pay so you can play"

Immie

I'm just glad I've never had to go before someone like kg to beg for help. Seeing as how she's a social worker, actually makes money off of providing aid to people yet believes every single person who comes to her for aid is LYING!

Then calls me the site welfare queen? Why? Because my youngest son is low functioning autism and 26 years old and we managed to finally get him in a home paid for by the state. If that makes me the site welfare queen, so be it.
KG shouldn't call you a "welfare queen".
But why do think it is the states responsibility (tax payer) to support your son?
I didn't cause his autism. I'm not the fault of his condition. Why do you think it is my responsibility to provide for him?

I would not want to live in the America of your dreams
 
It's not a matter of defending, I think most people are just completely unaware of the implications. That, and most conservatives live in the "lottery mentality" meaning that their wealth is just a lottery ticket away!

:lol:

Another idiotic lie from the left. Minorities spend more of their income on lottery tickets than any other group. The next lie will be that blacks and latinos voted for Romney thus making them conservatives.

Studies show that blacks and Latinos play the lottery at higher levels, as well as spend more per game. A Los Angeles Times poll, conducted two years after the California state lottery act was passed in 1984, found a higher in-state lottery participation rate among Hispanics than among whites, blacks, or Asian-Americans.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/then...power-to-american-dream-with-lottery-20121128
 
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It's not a matter of defending, I think most people are just completely unaware of the implications. That, and most conservatives live in the "lottery mentality" meaning that their wealth is just a lottery ticket away!

:lol:

Another idiotic lie from the left. Minorities spend more of their income on lottery tickets than any other group. The next lie will be that blacks and latinos voted for Romney thus making them conservatives.

Studies show that blacks and Latinos play the lottery at higher levels, as well as spend more per game. A Los Angeles Times poll, conducted two years after the California state lottery act was passed in 1984, found a higher in-state lottery participation rate among Hispanics than among whites, blacks, or Asian-Americans.

Minorities Seek to Power to American Dream With Lottery - NationalJournal.com

Your telling a fib about the lottery ticket thing. I posted the facts in another thread, should I find and post the link for you?
 
Im telling a fib...no jr I am stated what a liberal rag printed.... A Los Angeles Times from 2012.
 
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wow I should vist massachusetts....
States That Spend The Most On Lottery Tickets

Online Currency Trading Free $50,000 Practice
Account Massachusetts Has the Highest Prize Payback Ratio In addition to spending the most on lottery tickets, lottery players in Massachusetts also enjoy the highest prize payback ratio, at 71.9%. That is, of the almost $4.5 billion in total annual ticket sales, roughly $3.2 billion, or 71.9% of total annual ticket sales is returned to lottery participants in the form of prize money. With a payout ratio that high, it's no wonder residents of Massachusetts spend the most on lottery tickets.
 
Predominantly African American or Latino, low-income Chicago communities have generated the highest lottery sales in the state.

Illinois Lottery: The Poor Play More | The Chicago Reporter


Another fib.......

I guess we could flame links around and thats what I hate. I was trying to prove in another thread your point. that we all know the poor spends more on lottery tickets then the middle class. thanks for the reaserch!.!!!!!
 
wow I should vist massachusetts....
States That Spend The Most On Lottery Tickets

Online Currency Trading Free $50,000 Practice
Account Massachusetts Has the Highest Prize Payback Ratio In addition to spending the most on lottery tickets, lottery players in Massachusetts also enjoy the highest prize payback ratio, at 71.9%. That is, of the almost $4.5 billion in total annual ticket sales, roughly $3.2 billion, or 71.9% of total annual ticket sales is returned to lottery participants in the form of prize money. With a payout ratio that high, it's no wonder residents of Massachusetts spend the most on lottery tickets.

That proves what? That liberals spend more on lottery than conservatives just proving that shallow is a liar? Yup

BTW, next time you want to prove something, use a source that backs up your foolishness. No where does it say whom my race spends the most only that the state as a whole spends more......
 
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Sooo? and again its the blue staters that play the most. You do know their are middle class liberls right? I never waste my money on that stupid stuff, the horse and dog tracks have better odds.

The point that Sallow was making? WHOOSH! Right over your head.

The lottery MENTALITY has nothing to do with playing the lottery. The lottery mentality is actually thinking that you have a legitimate shot at being wealthy....if you just work hard enough, or if you suck their collective dicks long enough...but the truth is? They aren't going to let you in....if you actually DO something that competed with their interests, they'll crush you.
 
9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact - YouTube

Check out this video. What we believe is reality in wealth distribution isn't even close. The top 1% own 40% of the nations wealth while the bottom 80% own 7% of our nations wealth. 7%!

I don't understand how anyone can defend this.







And the top 1% CONTROL 90% of the nations wealth. They write the tax laws that make this happen...

We have turned into Rome. The Senate is corrupt, now all that's left is for the revolution to occur and a dictatorship to be installed. Hopefully it will be a benevolent tyrant...though i doubt we'll be so lucky.
 
9 Out Of 10 Americans Are Completely Wrong About This Mind-Blowing Fact - YouTube

Check out this video. What we believe is reality in wealth distribution isn't even close. The top 1% own 40% of the nations wealth while the bottom 80% own 7% of our nations wealth. 7%!

I don't understand how anyone can defend this.

The only shocking thing here is that most middle class conservatives support this and believe this is good for America. If people want to know what leads countries to socialism, all they need to do is watch that video.
 

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