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everyday working Joe who busts his/her ass to make ends meet.
So working hard just to make ends meat, that is the measure for income now? What's the hardest job? Digging ditches? So that should get the highest pay right? Leading the country should not get any more money? Quarterback for the Jets same paycheck?
Yes or no?
Who should decide how much someone gets paid? you?
Why do you put down the efforts of Joe? Why do you feel Joe's life sucks so bad you need to rob Peter to make little of Joe's efforts? Who told you Joe wanted a bigger house or a bigger car or to rob his neighbor's retirement account to make his life easier?
It's not a matter of defending, I think most people are just completely unaware of the implications. That, and most conservatives live in the "lottery mentality" meaning that their wealth is just a lottery ticket away!
What percentage of that Lottery Ticket winnings does the winner actually get to keep? What percentage goes to taxes? Maybe instead the Government cut could go to reimbursing that same percentage of all of the losing tickets, less administrative costs. Why should the Government Profit? Isn't the General Welfare more important? The general welfare of everyone that played, right? Profit is evil, right? 
I think the issue is that some folks believe that everyone should have their own house, a full fridge, all the education they want, all the money for healthcare they need, spare no expense. Oh yeah and they should not have to earn any of it and we should "force" people to fund their "largesse." Don't get me wrong I'm all for voluntary assistance and doing good for people but I fail to see how making someone's life "easy" is helping them. Nah, that's crippling them for life.
No, the issue here is that 20% of our people own 83% of our wealth. You can't convince me that 80% of our people aren't working.
So if I have a twenty in my pocket and you have a nothing in your pocket that means I have all of our wealth so someone should come to my house and cut it in half and give it to you then the wealth will be evenly distributed. Problem solved right?
Nope. My answer to that is I'll just stop working hard enough to have that extra twenty in my pocket, we'll get the money from some other rich guy who has not figured out just how evil he is to be earning more than minimum wage in this country.
No, the issue here is that 20% of our people own 83% of our wealth. You can't convince me that 80% of our people aren't working.
So if I have a twenty in my pocket and you have a nothing in your pocket that means I have all of our wealth so someone should come to my house and cut it in half and give it to you then the wealth will be evenly distributed. Problem solved right?
Nope. My answer to that is I'll just stop working hard enough to have that extra twenty in my pocket, we'll get the money from some other rich guy who has not figured out just how evil he is to be earning more than minimum wage in this country.
That is not how wealth is redistributed. In fact, for thirty years, the wealth has been distributed from the guy with nothing in his pocket to the guy with $20 in his pocket
So if I have a twenty in my pocket and you have a nothing in your pocket that means I have all of our wealth so someone should come to my house and cut it in half and give it to you then the wealth will be evenly distributed. Problem solved right?
Nope. My answer to that is I'll just stop working hard enough to have that extra twenty in my pocket, we'll get the money from some other rich guy who has not figured out just how evil he is to be earning more than minimum wage in this country.
That is not how wealth is redistributed. In fact, for thirty years, the wealth has been distributed from the guy with nothing in his pocket to the guy with $20 in his pocket
So what you're saying is that the guy with 20 bucks took nothing from the guy with empty pockets because said guy with empty pockets had nothing to take.
That is not how wealth is redistributed. In fact, for thirty years, the wealth has been distributed from the guy with nothing in his pocket to the guy with $20 in his pocket
So what you're saying is that the guy with 20 bucks took nothing from the guy with empty pockets because said guy with empty pockets had nothing to take.
Not exactly
Wealth is not created by the rich. Wealth is created by labor. The redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich has happened because the wealthy have held down wages and benefits creating a situation where one guy has $20 in his pocket and 40 people have nothing
So what you're saying is that the guy with 20 bucks took nothing from the guy with empty pockets because said guy with empty pockets had nothing to take.
Not exactly
Wealth is not created by the rich. Wealth is created by labor. The redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich has happened because the wealthy have held down wages and benefits creating a situation where one guy has $20 in his pocket and 40 people have nothing
The only practical measure of "wealth" is net worth.
Anyone can increase their net worth and therefore their wealth.
You have yet to prove to me how some rich guy is preventing you from increasing your net worth.
Not exactly
Wealth is not created by the rich. Wealth is created by labor. The redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich has happened because the wealthy have held down wages and benefits creating a situation where one guy has $20 in his pocket and 40 people have nothing
The only practical measure of "wealth" is net worth.
Anyone can increase their net worth and therefore their wealth.
You have yet to prove to me how some rich guy is preventing you from increasing your net worth.
Let us first apply the Golden Rule....
"He who has the Gold makes the rules"
The rich hold down the accumulation of wealth for workers (of course with the help of their trusty Congressman) by:
1. Watering down worker rights
2. Squashing the right to unionize
3. Cutting healthcare plans (a big one)
4. Slashing wages
5 Moving jobs offshore
6 Getting tax cuts for doing all of the above
The only practical measure of "wealth" is net worth.
Anyone can increase their net worth and therefore their wealth.
You have yet to prove to me how some rich guy is preventing you from increasing your net worth.
Let us first apply the Golden Rule....
"He who has the Gold makes the rules"
The rich hold down the accumulation of wealth for workers (of course with the help of their trusty Congressman) by:
1. Watering down worker rights
How does that stop you from increasing your net worth?
How does that stop you from increasing your net worth?
How does that stop you from increasing your net worth?
How much has a rich guy cut your pay in the past 10 years?
5 Moving jobs offshore
There are other jobs still in this country
6 Getting tax cuts for doing all of the above
What tax cuts did a rich guy get that you didn't and again how do tax cuts for a rich guy affect your ability to increase your net worth?
Can anyone just please answer the question; Who is stopping you from increasing your net worth and how exactly are they doing it?
KG shouldn't call you a "welfare queen".I'm just glad I've never had to go before someone like kg to beg for help. Seeing as how she's a social worker, actually makes money off of providing aid to people yet believes every single person who comes to her for aid is LYING!
Then calls me the site welfare queen? Why? Because my youngest son is low functioning autism and 26 years old and we managed to finally get him in a home paid for by the state. If that makes me the site welfare queen, so be it.
But why do think it is the states responsibility (tax payer) to support your son?
I didn't cause his autism. I'm not the fault of his condition. Why do you think it is my responsibility to provide for him?
Because as a civilized society we take care of our disabled and elderly. If you want to go back to primitive times, we can take him into the woods and leave him to die on his own, but today, we'd end up in jail for that. My husband has parkinson's, I have arthritis and other problems and we can't continue to handle an adult that disabled. He ripped out several walls in our home. Did you expect us to just let him kill us? He still would have ended up being taken care of by the state, at your expense. And of course, if we took him out into the woods, the state would have us institutionalized and you'd be paying for us instead. What exactly was my other choice? I suppose I could have aborted him, if I'd known he was going to have autism, but I didn't. I suppose I could have been a worse mother and let him wander away and drown as a child in a nearby river as happened to another autistic boy near here. I really don't understand what you want me to do here, please explain it.
Can anyone just please answer the question; Who is stopping you from increasing your net worth and how exactly are they doing it?
In a nutshell
Restricting your ability to negotiate higher wages for the wealth you create reduces your net worth
Having to pay increasing heathcare costs out of your remaining wages reduces your net worth
Making your job less secure forces you to accept lower wages and reduces your net worth
Having to charge bills to credit cards and take out second mortgages because your salary no longer covers your bills decreases your net worth
In a nutshell
Restricting your ability to negotiate higher wages for the wealth you create reduces your net worth
Having to pay increasing heathcare costs out of your remaining wages reduces your net worth
Making your job less secure forces you to accept lower wages and reduces your net worth
Having to charge bills to credit cards and take out second mortgages because your salary no longer covers your bills decreases your net worth
Is there a law that makes you work for this jerk? Why can't you work for someone else? Why can't you work for "yourself?"
Let us first apply the Golden Rule....
"He who has the Gold makes the rules"
The rich hold down the accumulation of wealth for workers (of course with the help of their trusty Congressman) by:
1. Watering down worker rights
How does that stop you from increasing your net worth?
How does that stop you from increasing your net worth?
How does that stop you from increasing your net worth?
How much has a rich guy cut your pay in the past 10 years?
There are other jobs still in this country
6 Getting tax cuts for doing all of the above
What tax cuts did a rich guy get that you didn't and again how do tax cuts for a rich guy affect your ability to increase your net worth?
Can anyone just please answer the question; Who is stopping you from increasing your net worth and how exactly are they doing it?
In a nutshell
Restricting your ability to negotiate higher wages for the wealth you create reduces your net worth
Having to pay increasing heathcare costs out of your remaining wages reduces your net worth
Making your job less secure forces you to accept lower wages and reduces your net worth
Having to charge bills to credit cards and take out second mortgages because your salary no longer covers your bills decreases your net worth
In a nutshell
Restricting your ability to negotiate higher wages for the wealth you create reduces your net worth
Having to pay increasing heathcare costs out of your remaining wages reduces your net worth
Making your job less secure forces you to accept lower wages and reduces your net worth
Having to charge bills to credit cards and take out second mortgages because your salary no longer covers your bills decreases your net worth
Is there a law that makes you work for this jerk? Why can't you work for someone else? Why can't you work for "yourself?"
You keep running down the same rathole that seems to think that a problem that can be resolved at an individual level can be resolved the same way for a population as a whole
Let's see, the world according to you-tube says that the top 1% owns 40% of America's wealth and the bottom 80% own 7%. It must mean the middle class own 53% of America's wealth. That's a pretty good deal even for whiny neo-socialists ain't it?
Do you really believe people making $millions are in the middle class?
The middle class is part of the 80% that own only 7% of our wealth. The top 20%, the rich own 93% of our wealth and the top 1% of them owns 40% of our wealth.
I'm beginning to think math isn't your strong point. Did you even watch the video?
You still haven't told me how another's wealth diminishes your capability to accumulate wealth.
If your net worth, a measure of wealth, goes up it does not mean someone else's goes down. Conversely if another's net worth increases yours does not decrease.
We have to stop thinking like this.
A guy who comes into a company and gets a top slot in it, because he happens to belong to the same fraternity has the rest of the "old boys" SHOULD NOT be entitled to 300% more in pay then someone actually doing the work to make the profit.
Add in that most corporations DEPEND on the taxes we pay to keep and maintain their enterprise.
There has to be some parity in this system.
If there is not..it will definitely collapse.
We have to stop thinking like this.
A guy who comes into a company and gets a top slot in it, because he happens to belong to the same fraternity has the rest of the "old boys" SHOULD NOT be entitled to 300% more in pay then someone actually doing the work to make the profit.
Add in that most corporations DEPEND on the taxes we pay to keep and maintain their enterprise.
There has to be some parity in this system.
If there is not..it will definitely collapse.
So if I want to make my buddy a rich Executive in my company I should be stopped by the federal government? WOW What's next forcing me to hire Obama's buddies as rich Executives in my company? Or should we just have a law that makes companies pay everyone the same wage?
Here's one for you... If we all make the exact same paycheck what will the poverty rate be? 100%?
Do you really believe people making $millions are in the middle class?
The middle class is part of the 80% that own only 7% of our wealth. The top 20%, the rich own 93% of our wealth and the top 1% of them owns 40% of our wealth.
I'm beginning to think math isn't your strong point. Did you even watch the video?
You still haven't told me how another's wealth diminishes your capability to accumulate wealth.
If your net worth, a measure of wealth, goes up it does not mean someone else's goes down. Conversely if another's net worth increases yours does not decrease.
We have to stop thinking like this.
A guy who comes into a company and gets a top slot in it, because he happens to belong to the same fraternity has the rest of the "old boys" SHOULD NOT be entitled to 300% more in pay then someone actually doing the work to make the profit.
Add in that most corporations DEPEND on the taxes we pay to keep and maintain their enterprise.
There has to be some parity in this system.
If there is not..it will definitely collapse.
