ABORTION and MEDICARE

[Emma]

Thank you Emma....an abortion in the USA costs approximately 1500.00 - 2000.00 with no complications. In Canada the procedure is free regardless of complications.

It won't be long though when American women will get free procedures. Obama is bringing in Medicare which will bring American society completely into the 21st century. You wont go bankrupt because you can't afford Health Insurance.

Your cost is a bit inflated. The average is a little over $500.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/journals/4000608.pdf

 

[Emma]

From Medicare.gov:

The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) administers Medicare, the nation's largest health insurance program, which covers nearly 40 million Americans. Medicare is a Health Insurance Program for people age 65 or older, some disabled people under age 65, and people of all ages with End-Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure treated with dialysis or a transplant).

I already said this, but God forbid you should read, let alone think and remember.

In that case...make the abortion mandatory

Why? Cripples shouldn't be allowed to breed, Dr. Goebbels?

Disability doesn't necessarily equate to "crippled", Ms. Know-it-all.

 

[Cecilie1200]

In that case...make the abortion mandatory

Why? Cripples shouldn't be allowed to breed, Dr. Goebbels?

Disability doesn't necessarily equate to "crippled", Ms. Know-it-all.

I think that was MY point, Ms. Reading Comprehension. It's called "sarcasm". Look it up.

 

[Emma]

Knew a 30-something fellow nurse who was 'disabled' d/t depression.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Knew a 30-something fellow nurse who was 'disabled' d/t depression.

Depression can be truly debilitating if it's severe enough. God knows, I had a horrible time with post-partum blues this year before they got my medication worked out. And I know my bout was pretty mild compared to what some women experience.

 

[Emma]

Knew a 30-something fellow nurse who was 'disabled' d/t depression.

Depression can be truly debilitating if it's severe enough. God knows, I had a horrible time with post-partum blues this year before they got my medication worked out. And I know my bout was pretty mild compared to what some women experience.

No doubt.

But I knew this person. She bragged about getting full disability for her "depression" and never having to work again. I realize that the majority truly deserve it, but I've also known people who just played the system.

 

[FA_Q2]

Christopher
Outlawing anything never makes it stop. Just look at banned substances and handguns for instance.

No kidding. Where has it been stated that it would be better to outlaw here in this thread?? Hmmmm….. that’s right, we are talking about not making it FREE. Making it free certainly won’t make it stop, it will increase it!

 

[Rozman]

Americans are going to have universal health care (Medicare for all) provided by the government. It's going to happen next year. Get used to it.

Living in Canada we have had Medicare for over 40 years and it works quite well. Our Medicare system pays for ABORTION which is deemed as a medical procedure not a crime. Amercan's new medicare bill too will cover abortion, after all 85 % of private insurance plans pay for it and President Obama has said Mediacre will be equal to private insurance.

How do you feel about a woman being able to have an abortion (medical procedure not a crime) which will be paid for by tax dollars - your tax dollars? I'd like to read your thoughts on this subject and please cast your vote in my poll.


Thank you,
Yukon (retired Roman Catholic Priest)

If a woman wants an abortion,fine it's not illegal. But why should my tax dollars go to pay for it.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Knew a 30-something fellow nurse who was 'disabled' d/t depression.

Depression can be truly debilitating if it's severe enough. God knows, I had a horrible time with post-partum blues this year before they got my medication worked out. And I know my bout was pretty mild compared to what some women experience.

No doubt.

But I knew this person. She bragged about getting full disability for her "depression" and never having to work again. I realize that the majority truly deserve it, but I've also known people who just played the system.

You probably should have reported her for fraud.

 

[frazzledgear]

If she has a back alley abortion and dies as a result of an infection, I say adios to her.

That's just Darwinism at its best.

Lets make the man who impregnated her pay for it instead.

There's a beautiful double standard to be found in the abortion debate.

Women have the right to abort a child they do not want. But men are forced to pay child support for children they do not want.

If a man wants his unborn child, and the woman does not, the man is shit out of luck.

Like I said, it's a very beautiful standard.

As for the issue of abortion in the health care debate, I notice that the topic of Viagra continues to come up. Why do abortionists think the solution is, "If they cover Viagra, they cover abortions?" First of all, the two things are not related. Secondly, maybe the issue should be, "Why don't we STOP covering Viagra?" Because personally, I don't see any medicinal use that comes from the drug.

I agree about that double standard -I've pointed out the hypocrisy of that several times. Insurance companies cover Viagra because it returns a physical impairment back to normal. MANY medical conditions cause all sorts of physical dysfunctions and erectile dysfunction is one of the earliest impairments caused by both disease AND the medications used to treat those diseases. If your body does not work properly, the treatments needed to return it to normal or as near normal as possible are covered by insurance. Who in their right mind would argue they don't want the treatments needed to return normal function covered by insurance? Disease steals normal function in all sorts of areas of the body and insurance should cover the treatments that restore as normal a function again as possible -period.

The comparable treatment for women IS covered by insurance -treatment, medication and even surgery if needed for women to be able to return to having a normal sex life. And there ARE medical conditions as the result of aging, disease and trauma that can interfere with that -but are covered by insurance as well.

But abortion has nothing do with physical impairment -in NO WAY is it comparable to having Viagra covered. Their ability to have a normal sex life was never impaired and women just want taxpayers to foot their bill for their own irresponsible behavior. It is like demanding taxpayers pay the fines for drunk drivers. Except that abortion involves the LIFE of another human being and the vast majority in this country do not want to be forced to pay to have that child KILLED! I am sick to death of these liberal jerks who want to pretend it only involves the woman and that unless everyone agrees that poor, irresponsible woman can have her child killed at taxpayer expense -why we just aren't ENLIGHTENED! Insisting taxpayers, no matter how they feel about abortion, no matter how immoral they believe it to be, no matter if they believe it is the slaughter of the innocent - should be forced to foot the bill so some irresponsible woman can have her own child killed -is just not horrific MORAL BANKRUPTCY -it is the typical totalitarian-loving left that believes in using the power of the state so the minority can tyrannize the majority. As if history has never shown that will never come back to bite them in the ass big time.

 

[frazzledgear]

Ok so my sarcasm doesnt match others here though I dont resort to name calling.

Can you imagine the outcry if Viagra was stopped?

So your solution is to that two wrongs do make a right? Ignorance at its best.

Two wrongs? I expect insurance to cover the treatments, medications and procedures needed to restore any impaired physical function to normal or as near normal as possible -for women and men. And without others deciding I should be forced to forfeit some normal functions forever all because someone ELSE has replaced THEIR value of that function for my OWN!

But that is NOT the issue with abortion. I put abortion in the same category as cosmetic surgery which is usually NOT covered by insurance. A woman decides to get breast implants because she thinks it will improve her appearance. And likewise for most women who get an abortion, they think they look much better without being saddled with an unwanted child. It still doesn't mean they have any right to expect taxpayers to foot the bill to have their child killed and butchered up like a piece of meat. I only see ONE wrong here.

 

[Emma]

Depression can be truly debilitating if it's severe enough. God knows, I had a horrible time with post-partum blues this year before they got my medication worked out. And I know my bout was pretty mild compared to what some women experience.

No doubt.

But I knew this person. She bragged about getting full disability for her "depression" and never having to work again. I realize that the majority truly deserve it, but I've also known people who just played the system.

You probably should have reported her for fraud.

Didn't have to

 

[AllieBaba]

Knew a 30-something fellow nurse who was 'disabled' d/t depression.

Depression can be truly debilitating if it's severe enough. God knows, I had a horrible time with post-partum blues this year before they got my medication worked out. And I know my bout was pretty mild compared to what some women experience.

No doubt.

But I knew this person. She bragged about getting full disability for her "depression" and never having to work again. I realize that the majority truly deserve it, but I've also known people who just played the system.

To get full disability you have to have supporting documentation/evaluations which show that you are unable to work and will continue to be unable to work.

 

[Emma]

Depression can be truly debilitating if it's severe enough. God knows, I had a horrible time with post-partum blues this year before they got my medication worked out. And I know my bout was pretty mild compared to what some women experience.

No doubt.

But I knew this person. She bragged about getting full disability for her "depression" and never having to work again. I realize that the majority truly deserve it, but I've also known people who just played the system.

To get full disability you have to have supporting documentation/evaluations which show that you are unable to work and will continue to be unable to work.

Of course. Obviously she either was a hell of an actor or her doc was less than honest.

 

[uscitizen]

There are also required perodic re-certifications of your disability.

 

[MajikMyst]

Americans are going to have universal health care (Medicare for all) provided by the government. It's going to happen next year. Get used to it.

Living in Canada we have had Medicare for over 40 years and it works quite well. Our Medicare system pays for ABORTION which is deemed as a medical procedure not a crime. Amercan's new medicare bill too will cover abortion, after all 85 % of private insurance plans pay for it and President Obama has said Mediacre will be equal to private insurance.

How do you feel about a woman being able to have an abortion (medical procedure not a crime) which will be paid for by tax dollars - your tax dollars? I'd like to read your thoughts on this subject and please cast your vote in my poll.


Thank you,
Yukon (retired Roman Catholic Priest)

If a woman wants an abortion,fine it's not illegal. But why should my tax dollars go to pay for it.

You answered your own question.. Because it isn't illegal.. The law says she can have it then the law should pay for it.. If you don't like the law then change it or move to another country..

 

[Cecilie1200]

Americans are going to have universal health care (Medicare for all) provided by the government. It's going to happen next year. Get used to it.

Living in Canada we have had Medicare for over 40 years and it works quite well. Our Medicare system pays for ABORTION which is deemed as a medical procedure not a crime. Amercan's new medicare bill too will cover abortion, after all 85 % of private insurance plans pay for it and President Obama has said Mediacre will be equal to private insurance.

How do you feel about a woman being able to have an abortion (medical procedure not a crime) which will be paid for by tax dollars - your tax dollars? I'd like to read your thoughts on this subject and please cast your vote in my poll.


Thank you,
Yukon (retired Roman Catholic Priest)

If a woman wants an abortion,fine it's not illegal. But why should my tax dollars go to pay for it.

You answered your own question.. Because it isn't illegal.. The law says she can have it then the law should pay for it.. If you don't like the law then change it or move to another country..

He didn't answer his own question, unless you think Medicare should cover any and all medical procedures that are legal, including Lasik, breast augmentation, face lifts . . .

Of course, you're such an ignorant, sucking leech, you probably do.

 

[Big_D]

75% of Americans are OBESE from eating junk food 24/7. You people are so fat, and so lazy that eventually every dime you make will go towards eating junk food and going to Chinese Doctors.

Wrong again. 34% of Americans are obese.

Obese Americans now outweigh the merely overweight | Reuters

 

[Emma]

75% of Americans are OBESE from eating junk food 24/7. You people are so fat, and so lazy that eventually every dime you make will go towards eating junk food and going to Chinese Doctors.

Wrong again. 34% of Americans are obese.

Obese Americans now outweigh the merely overweight | Reuters

Obesity and Overweight
(Data are for the U.S.)

• Percent of noninstitutionalized adults age 20 years and over who are overweight or obese: 67% (2005-2006)
  
  
• Percent of noninstitutionalized adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 34% (2005-2006)
  
  
• Percent of adolescents age 12-19 years who are overweight: 18% (2005-2006)
  
  
• Percent of children age 6-11 years who are overweight: 15% (2005-2006)
  
  
• Percent of children age 2-5 years who are overweight: 11% (2005-2006)

FASTSTATS - Overweight Prevalence

Pretty fucking sad. In this area, the percentage is far higher.

 

[Yukon]

Wrong again. 34% of Americans are obese.

Obese Americans now outweigh the merely overweight | Reuters

Gee whiz BIG D I'm really sorry for the horrible mistake I made. I stand corrected as based on your figure of 34% only slightly more than 100,000,000 of you are fat, bloated, lazy, beer swilling grotesque excuses of a human being. I really am sorry!