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ACTUALLY, Rice says intel still says the same thing, Pubs and Fox still WRONG...
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tinydancer
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Rice is NOW the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR AND SAID THIS 3 DAYS AGO- she was briefed by EVERYONE before the sunday talk shows and guess what, OUR BEST INTEL HASN'T CHANGED- despite a tidal wave of stupid irrelevant Pubcrappe. Jeebus you're functional tinfoil MORONS....WHERE THE FUCK DO THINK HAM WAS LOL...ay caramba..
Rice is in CYA mode now.
And where do I think Ham was? Let's see. At the Pentagon and meeting up with Panetta and Dempsey and briefing the President.
tinydancer
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The drone was deployed from WHERE...lol...
In his testimony Ham said the drone was repositioned by AFRICOM.
Ham served as head of the United States Africa Command, which manages U.S. military operations in Africa. He served in that capacity from March 2011 to April 2013.
He describes how as soon as AFRICOM learned of the attack, the command control repositioned a drone to the consulate to gather intelligence on the ground movements. The unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was ordered to be diverted to the Benghazi site at 9:59 p.m. Libya Time, 17 minutes after the attack.
francoHFW
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No drone either- total BS, NEVER RETRACTED, OF COURSE...HATER DUPES...
Origins: The claim that top Obama administration officials were gathered in the Oval Office watching a real-time video feed of the September 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, but did nothing to intervene appears to have originated with a 24 October 2012 Forbes op-ed piece ("White House Watched Benghazi Attacked And Didn't Respond"), the opening paragraph of which is quoted in the example block above.
However, that description is a rather distorted version of what the news sources it references (CBS News and ABC News) actually reported. A CBS News story from that same day ("U.S. military poised for rescue in Benghazi") stated the following:
Meanwhile, CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan reports that the FBI and State Department have reviewed video from security cameras that captured the attack on the consulate.
The audio feed of the attack was being monitored in real time in Washington by diplomatic security official Charlene Lamb. CBS News has learned that video of the assault was recovered 20 days later from the more than 10 security cameras at the compound.
The government security camera footage of the attack was in the possession of local Libyans until the week of Oct. 1. The video will be among the evidence that the State Department's review board will analyze to determine who carried out the assault.
According to that report, it was not the case that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary of Defense Panetta, and a national security team were "watching real-time video of developments from a drone circling over the site"; rather, a single diplomatic security official was listening to an audio feed of events in Benghazi. Security cameras in the U.S. consulate compound did record video of the events as they unfolded, and a U.S. surveillance drone camera did capture the last hour of the attack, but neither of those sources was watched real-time by officials in Washington, as the consulate video recordings were not recovered until weeks after the attack:
Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site [during the first week of October] by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials.
snopes.com: Attack on the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi
Origins: The claim that top Obama administration officials were gathered in the Oval Office watching a real-time video feed of the September 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, but did nothing to intervene appears to have originated with a 24 October 2012 Forbes op-ed piece ("White House Watched Benghazi Attacked And Didn't Respond"), the opening paragraph of which is quoted in the example block above.
However, that description is a rather distorted version of what the news sources it references (CBS News and ABC News) actually reported. A CBS News story from that same day ("U.S. military poised for rescue in Benghazi") stated the following:
Meanwhile, CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan reports that the FBI and State Department have reviewed video from security cameras that captured the attack on the consulate.
The audio feed of the attack was being monitored in real time in Washington by diplomatic security official Charlene Lamb. CBS News has learned that video of the assault was recovered 20 days later from the more than 10 security cameras at the compound.
The government security camera footage of the attack was in the possession of local Libyans until the week of Oct. 1. The video will be among the evidence that the State Department's review board will analyze to determine who carried out the assault.
According to that report, it was not the case that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary of Defense Panetta, and a national security team were "watching real-time video of developments from a drone circling over the site"; rather, a single diplomatic security official was listening to an audio feed of events in Benghazi. Security cameras in the U.S. consulate compound did record video of the events as they unfolded, and a U.S. surveillance drone camera did capture the last hour of the attack, but neither of those sources was watched real-time by officials in Washington, as the consulate video recordings were not recovered until weeks after the attack:
Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site [during the first week of October] by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials.
snopes.com: Attack on the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi
tinydancer
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Blog: Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi attack was terrorism
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They didn't know shytte, just that there'd been an attack. Give me a fecking break...______________
All the Generals, the Secretary of Defense and all sorts of senior officials at the Pentagon were getting information in real time.
This is not a grand conspiracy by the Defense Secretary or the Pentagon to discredit Obama.
It's all testimony. The Administration (aka the Pentagon and Panetta) all realized the Embassy were under a terrorist attack.
tinydancer
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No drone either- total BS, NEVER RETRACTED, OF COURSE...HATER DUPES...
Origins: The claim that top Obama administration officials were gathered in the Oval Office watching a real-time video feed of the September 2012 terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, but did nothing to intervene appears to have originated with a 24 October 2012 Forbes op-ed piece ("White House Watched Benghazi Attacked And Didn't Respond"), the opening paragraph of which is quoted in the example block above.
However, that description is a rather distorted version of what the news sources it references (CBS News and ABC News) actually reported. A CBS News story from that same day ("U.S. military poised for rescue in Benghazi") stated the following:
Meanwhile, CBS News correspondent Margaret Brennan reports that the FBI and State Department have reviewed video from security cameras that captured the attack on the consulate.
The audio feed of the attack was being monitored in real time in Washington by diplomatic security official Charlene Lamb. CBS News has learned that video of the assault was recovered 20 days later from the more than 10 security cameras at the compound.
The government security camera footage of the attack was in the possession of local Libyans until the week of Oct. 1. The video will be among the evidence that the State Department's review board will analyze to determine who carried out the assault.
According to that report, it was not the case that President Obama, Vice President Biden, Secretary of Defense Panetta, and a national security team were "watching real-time video of developments from a drone circling over the site"; rather, a single diplomatic security official was listening to an audio feed of events in Benghazi. Security cameras in the U.S. consulate compound did record video of the events as they unfolded, and a U.S. surveillance drone camera did capture the last hour of the attack, but neither of those sources was watched real-time by officials in Washington, as the consulate video recordings were not recovered until weeks after the attack:
Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation.
The footage, which was recovered from the site [during the first week of October] by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials.
snopes.com: Attack on the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi
You really should have read the whole article by Snopes. Thank you for validating that there was a drone recording the events.
And they not only have the recording from the drone but also from security cameras. But Lamb was listening to the events in real time.
The audio feed of the attack was being monitored in real time in Washington by diplomatic security official Charlene Lamb.
CBS News has learned that video of the assault was recovered 20 days later from the more than 10 security cameras at the compound.
tinydancer
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Nighters!
francoHFW
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THERE WAS NO DRONE FER CHRISSAKE lol, what Rice was briefed for 2 days later is more believable than first reports in the middle of a battle, AND she said the same thing 4 days ago, with all the intel in from the CIA ETC, from her position as NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR. ''PROBABLY A MILITIA ATTACK GROWING OUT OF A DEMONSTRATION, TRIGGERED BY A RW VIDEO PUBLICIZED ACROSS THE ME''.
GIVE IT UP PUBS, CHARLATANS AND HATER DUPES- ANOTHER PHONY SCANDAL.
GIVE IT UP PUBS, CHARLATANS AND HATER DUPES- ANOTHER PHONY SCANDAL.
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Panetta testified that it was a terror attack last year at the hearings. And that he knew right from the get go that it was a terror attack.
Give it up guys. It's on record.
So when the WH spokeswoman said "Extremist" carried out the attack on the Consulate building that night they were not a lying, right? That's on record too.
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Not the gd drone bs AGAIN LOL...
SO HAM WAS PSYCHIC LOL...he heard the first report and just KNEW LOL...AND THAT'S how we know our best intel was a LIE lol...
What are you talking about? A drone was deployed immediately. He was getting reports coming in from the command center.
It wasn't a protest. It wasn't a demonstration. This was a terrorist attack. Plain and simple.
Panetta and other high ranking officials all believed it was a terrorist attack as they have testified.
This isn't "he said she said". Susan Rice was not part of this.
Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that "there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi." "Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?" asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla.
"There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack," Panetta replied.
Senior State Department officials who were in direct, real-time contact with the Americans under assault in Benghazi have also made clear they, too, knew immediately -- from surveillance video and eyewitness accounts -- that the incident was a terrorist attack.
After providing the first substantive "tick-tock" of the events in Benghazi, during a background briefing conducted on the evening of Oct. 9, 2012, a reporter asked two top aides to then-Secretary Clinton: "What in all of these events that you've described led officials to believe for the first several days that this was prompted by protests against the video?"
"That is a question that you would have to ask others," replied one of the senior officials. "That was not our conclusion."
Blog: Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi attack was terrorism
No wonder you buy the lies.
The drone wasn't dispatched until 15 minutes after, and didn't arrive on scene until after an hour of the initial reports of an attack.
francoHFW
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Actually. I'll go with the Kos and original documents from intel and the military...
09:02 pm. A Supreme Security Council (SSC) police vehicle arrives at main gate C1.
09:42 pm. The SSC police vehicle departs. At about the same time, the RSO in the office heard shots and an explosion. He looked on the security cameras and saw dozens of individuals, many armed, beginning to enter the compound through Gate C1. He hit the alarm, and notified the embassy in Tripoli, the CIA Annex, and the Diplomatic Security agency HQ in Washington DC that they were under attack.
ARSOs 1, 2 and 3 heard the shots, the explosion, and also chanting. Pursuant to a prior plan, ARSO 1 entered Villa C to place the ambassador and IMO Smith into the safe haven and also to retrieve his tactical kit. ARSO 2 ran to the office, where his kit was stored. ARSOs 3 and 4 ran to Villa B to retrieve their kits. When they attempted to return to Villa C, they could not because of the large number of attackers blocking the route. They returned to Villa B, and barricaded themselves in a back room with one of the unarmed local watchmen.
09:45 pm. Between 9:45 pm and 10:00 pm, the attackers used the diesel fuel on the compound to set fire to the February 17 living quarters and nearby vehicles. Attackers entered Villa C, damaged some of the comments, but did not directly attack the safe room. ARSO 1, who was inside the safe room with Ambassador Stevens and IMO Smith, decided not to attempt to engage the attackers from the safe area, but warned the ambassador and the IMO that the attackers might blow off the door hinges with explosives.
Instead the lights grew dim, and ARSO 1 realized that Villa C had been set on fire. As the smoke grew thick, ARSO sought to assist Ambassador Stevens and IMO Smith to escape from the building by breaking a window. In the process, he became separated from the other two. He repeatedly returned to Villa C through the window in attempts to rescue the ambassador and the foreign service office, but was driven back by heat and smoke.
During the attack on Villa C, there was also an attempt to burn Villa B, however there was no fuel remaining to use for an accelerant, and this attack failed. The intruders also attempted to enter the office, but this also failed.
ARSOs 2, 3, and 4 were able to reach Villa C, where they found ARSO 1, who had attempted to reenter the building from the roof, vomiting from smoke inhalation and losing consciousness. ARSOs 2, 3 and 4 then repeatedly entered Villa C themselves to search for the ambassador and IMO Smith. They do find the body of IMO Smith, who apparently died from smoke inhalation. They are unable to find Ambassador Stevens.
10:05 pm. (or earlier). A security team of six personnel and a translator leaves the CIA annex en route to the consulate.
10:25 pm. Security team enters consulate, encountering ineffective fire coming from the compound.
At the same time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, meet with the President at the White House. Panetta returns to the Pentagon, meets with others, including Carter Ham, chief of US Africa Command.
10:40 pm. The firefight between the security team from the annex and the consulate attackers ends. The security team reaches the building where the ambassador was last seen alive, but was unable to enter do to the intense fire and smoke.
11:11 pm. DoD unarmed surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi consulate. Later a second drone arrives.
11:15 pm. The annex security team sends the Diplomatic Security agents to the annex, using a fully armored vehicle.. All five agents were suffering from smoke inhalation. Enroute they come under heavy fire, and apparently an organized attempt to lure the vehicle into a trap.
11:30 pm. Unable to locate Ambassador Stevens, the security team from the annex leaves, separately (and later) from the Diplomatic Security Agents. They take with them the body of IMO Smith. Their vehicles also come under fire as they leave the consulate. Ambassador Stevens is still missing. The situation is quiet at the CIA Annex when the DS agents arrive, also about 11:30, in their armored vehicle. They take up defensive positions and receive medical treatment.
12:00 pm.Attackers fire (sporadically) small arms and RPGs at the CIA annex. The security team returns fire, disbursing the attackers.
12:30 am. Orders are issued to begin moving U.S. military units to Libya.
1:01 am. The sporadic RPG and small arms attacks on the CIA annex end.
01:15 am.. An additional team of seven security personnel from Tripoli arrive at the Benghazi airport via chartered aircraft. They are held up for at least three hours negotiating with Libyan authorities about logistics. The location of the ambassador is unknown at this time, but he is assumed to be dead.
02:00 am. The fate of Ambassador Stevens is learned. He appears to have been found (but not recognized) in the safe room of Villa C by some "good Samaritans" among the locals at about 01:15 am, and taken to a hospital. Medical personnel attempted to revive him, but he had no signs of life and apparently had died of smoke inhalation.
03:00 am. Acting on the orders of SecDef Panetta, three units are preparing to deport, consisting of two special forces teams, one at Fort Bragg, NC, and one in Central Europe, and a Marine anti-terrorism unit.
05:00 am. The additional security team at the airport manages to security transport and an armed escort, They learn that Ambassador Stevens is almost certainly dead and the hospital security situation is unclear. They go to the CIA annex to assist with the evacuation.
05:04 am. The security team from Tripoli arrives at the CIA annex.
05:14 am. The CIA annex is attacked with mortar rounds. The security teams engage the attackers. In so doing, CIA annex security officers Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, who had taken up a firing position on the roof, are killed by mortar rounds. An ARSO and an annex team security officer were severely wounded.
05:26 am. The mortar attack at the CIA annex ends.
06:00 am. Heavily-armed Libyan forces (not militia) arrive at the CIA complex with about 50 vehicles. They help evacuate the U.S. personnel from the annex to the airport.
06:22 am. Sunrise in Benghazi.
Benghazi attack -- the facts
The drones were unarmed and got there too late for the attack...
09:02 pm. A Supreme Security Council (SSC) police vehicle arrives at main gate C1.
09:42 pm. The SSC police vehicle departs. At about the same time, the RSO in the office heard shots and an explosion. He looked on the security cameras and saw dozens of individuals, many armed, beginning to enter the compound through Gate C1. He hit the alarm, and notified the embassy in Tripoli, the CIA Annex, and the Diplomatic Security agency HQ in Washington DC that they were under attack.
ARSOs 1, 2 and 3 heard the shots, the explosion, and also chanting. Pursuant to a prior plan, ARSO 1 entered Villa C to place the ambassador and IMO Smith into the safe haven and also to retrieve his tactical kit. ARSO 2 ran to the office, where his kit was stored. ARSOs 3 and 4 ran to Villa B to retrieve their kits. When they attempted to return to Villa C, they could not because of the large number of attackers blocking the route. They returned to Villa B, and barricaded themselves in a back room with one of the unarmed local watchmen.
09:45 pm. Between 9:45 pm and 10:00 pm, the attackers used the diesel fuel on the compound to set fire to the February 17 living quarters and nearby vehicles. Attackers entered Villa C, damaged some of the comments, but did not directly attack the safe room. ARSO 1, who was inside the safe room with Ambassador Stevens and IMO Smith, decided not to attempt to engage the attackers from the safe area, but warned the ambassador and the IMO that the attackers might blow off the door hinges with explosives.
Instead the lights grew dim, and ARSO 1 realized that Villa C had been set on fire. As the smoke grew thick, ARSO sought to assist Ambassador Stevens and IMO Smith to escape from the building by breaking a window. In the process, he became separated from the other two. He repeatedly returned to Villa C through the window in attempts to rescue the ambassador and the foreign service office, but was driven back by heat and smoke.
During the attack on Villa C, there was also an attempt to burn Villa B, however there was no fuel remaining to use for an accelerant, and this attack failed. The intruders also attempted to enter the office, but this also failed.
ARSOs 2, 3, and 4 were able to reach Villa C, where they found ARSO 1, who had attempted to reenter the building from the roof, vomiting from smoke inhalation and losing consciousness. ARSOs 2, 3 and 4 then repeatedly entered Villa C themselves to search for the ambassador and IMO Smith. They do find the body of IMO Smith, who apparently died from smoke inhalation. They are unable to find Ambassador Stevens.
10:05 pm. (or earlier). A security team of six personnel and a translator leaves the CIA annex en route to the consulate.
10:25 pm. Security team enters consulate, encountering ineffective fire coming from the compound.
At the same time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey, meet with the President at the White House. Panetta returns to the Pentagon, meets with others, including Carter Ham, chief of US Africa Command.
10:40 pm. The firefight between the security team from the annex and the consulate attackers ends. The security team reaches the building where the ambassador was last seen alive, but was unable to enter do to the intense fire and smoke.
11:11 pm. DoD unarmed surveillance drone arrives over the Benghazi consulate. Later a second drone arrives.
11:15 pm. The annex security team sends the Diplomatic Security agents to the annex, using a fully armored vehicle.. All five agents were suffering from smoke inhalation. Enroute they come under heavy fire, and apparently an organized attempt to lure the vehicle into a trap.
11:30 pm. Unable to locate Ambassador Stevens, the security team from the annex leaves, separately (and later) from the Diplomatic Security Agents. They take with them the body of IMO Smith. Their vehicles also come under fire as they leave the consulate. Ambassador Stevens is still missing. The situation is quiet at the CIA Annex when the DS agents arrive, also about 11:30, in their armored vehicle. They take up defensive positions and receive medical treatment.
12:00 pm.Attackers fire (sporadically) small arms and RPGs at the CIA annex. The security team returns fire, disbursing the attackers.
12:30 am. Orders are issued to begin moving U.S. military units to Libya.
1:01 am. The sporadic RPG and small arms attacks on the CIA annex end.
01:15 am.. An additional team of seven security personnel from Tripoli arrive at the Benghazi airport via chartered aircraft. They are held up for at least three hours negotiating with Libyan authorities about logistics. The location of the ambassador is unknown at this time, but he is assumed to be dead.
02:00 am. The fate of Ambassador Stevens is learned. He appears to have been found (but not recognized) in the safe room of Villa C by some "good Samaritans" among the locals at about 01:15 am, and taken to a hospital. Medical personnel attempted to revive him, but he had no signs of life and apparently had died of smoke inhalation.
03:00 am. Acting on the orders of SecDef Panetta, three units are preparing to deport, consisting of two special forces teams, one at Fort Bragg, NC, and one in Central Europe, and a Marine anti-terrorism unit.
05:00 am. The additional security team at the airport manages to security transport and an armed escort, They learn that Ambassador Stevens is almost certainly dead and the hospital security situation is unclear. They go to the CIA annex to assist with the evacuation.
05:04 am. The security team from Tripoli arrives at the CIA annex.
05:14 am. The CIA annex is attacked with mortar rounds. The security teams engage the attackers. In so doing, CIA annex security officers Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, who had taken up a firing position on the roof, are killed by mortar rounds. An ARSO and an annex team security officer were severely wounded.
05:26 am. The mortar attack at the CIA annex ends.
06:00 am. Heavily-armed Libyan forces (not militia) arrive at the CIA complex with about 50 vehicles. They help evacuate the U.S. personnel from the annex to the airport.
06:22 am. Sunrise in Benghazi.
Benghazi attack -- the facts
The drones were unarmed and got there too late for the attack...
tinydancer
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Not the gd drone bs AGAIN LOL...
SO HAM WAS PSYCHIC LOL...he heard the first report and just KNEW LOL...AND THAT'S how we know our best intel was a LIE lol...
What are you talking about? A drone was deployed immediately. He was getting reports coming in from the command center.
It wasn't a protest. It wasn't a demonstration. This was a terrorist attack. Plain and simple.
Panetta and other high ranking officials all believed it was a terrorist attack as they have testified.
This isn't "he said she said". Susan Rice was not part of this.
Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that "there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi." "Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?" asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla.
"There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack," Panetta replied.
Senior State Department officials who were in direct, real-time contact with the Americans under assault in Benghazi have also made clear they, too, knew immediately -- from surveillance video and eyewitness accounts -- that the incident was a terrorist attack.
After providing the first substantive "tick-tock" of the events in Benghazi, during a background briefing conducted on the evening of Oct. 9, 2012, a reporter asked two top aides to then-Secretary Clinton: "What in all of these events that you've described led officials to believe for the first several days that this was prompted by protests against the video?"
"That is a question that you would have to ask others," replied one of the senior officials. "That was not our conclusion."
Blog: Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi attack was terrorism
No wonder you buy the lies.
The drone wasn't dispatched until 15 minutes after, and didn't arrive on scene until after an hour of the initial reports of an attack.
And?
15 minutes is "immediately".And Lamb was listening to audio in real time. All this is testimony that has been given.
If you want to think that Panetta, Ham, Dempsey and a slew of others gave false testimony and lied to the committee be my guest.
I happen to believe the gentlemen that were "hands on" at that very moment in time.
francoHFW
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Hands on 6000 miles away, in the middle of a chaotic battle, with audio only. BTW, IF THEY'RE WRONG, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WERE lying...Too much Fox Noise...a disgrace...
Saw this on Char;ie Rose last - NY Times reporter Kirkpatrick just returned from Bengazi and interviewing militia leaders and others.... They all agreed the video was a trigger for the anti-American militias. When they entered the mission they found many tins of propellent for a new generator...Guess what, hater dupes...not much of a plan.
Few Libyans had seen the video, but they all heard the fundie Rush Limbaugh of the ME rail against it and call for protests against US facilities...
No evidence of orders from outside Libya, which would mean NOT terrorists in the true sense..
Don't hater dupes EVER get tired of being lied to, and demonizing our remaining great news sources...
Saw this on Char;ie Rose last - NY Times reporter Kirkpatrick just returned from Bengazi and interviewing militia leaders and others.... They all agreed the video was a trigger for the anti-American militias. When they entered the mission they found many tins of propellent for a new generator...Guess what, hater dupes...not much of a plan.
Few Libyans had seen the video, but they all heard the fundie Rush Limbaugh of the ME rail against it and call for protests against US facilities...
No evidence of orders from outside Libya, which would mean NOT terrorists in the true sense..
Don't hater dupes EVER get tired of being lied to, and demonizing our remaining great news sources...
tinydancer
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Hands on 6000 miles away, in the middle of a chaotic battle, with audio only. BTW, IF THEY'RE WRONG, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WERE lying...Too much Fox Noise...a disgrace...
Saw this on Char;ie Rose last - NY Times reporter Kirkpatrick just returned from Bengazi and interviewing militia leaders and others.... They all agreed the video was a trigger for the anti-American militias. When they entered the mission they found many tins of propellent for a new generator...Guess what, hater dupes...not much of a plan.
Few Libyans had seen the video, but they all heard the fundie Rush Limbaugh of the ME rail against it and call for protests against US facilities...
No evidence of orders from outside Libya, which would mean NOT terrorists in the true sense..
Don't hater dupes EVER get tired of being lied to, and demonizing our remaining great news sources...
What a fairy tale! Gee a New York Times reporter talks to militias who go "yeah, yeah that's the ticket! it was protestors armed with grenades and rocket launchers who were pissed off at a video, yeah yeah that's the ticket."
Now hard facts. AQ#2 is assassinated by a drone attack. AQ#2 was Libyan.
AQ#1 was really pissed off and called for revenge for his death. AQ affiliates exacted revenge.
True story.
tinydancer
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No, it was an anti-American militia that was triggered by the video...I thought it was 9/11...
My apologies. Typing on the fly. Wrong link from my sack of stuff. It gets confusing because you keep whacking #2's
.Promotions get you dead it seems with AQ.
You whacked #2 a Libyan in August the year before. This guy Libi, another Libyan you whacked in the summer of 2012.
This is where #1 gets super duper pissed off and calls for revenge. Here's two links.
Al Qaeda's No. 2 killed in Pakistan by CIA drone strike
The death of Abu Yahya al Libi is deemed a major blow to Al Qaeda. The Libyan gained notoriety for his escape from U.S. detention in Afghanistan in 2005.
June 05, 2012|By Ken Dilanian and Alex Rodriguez, Los Angeles Times
Al Qaeda's No. 2, Abu Yahya al Libi, seen in a 2007 video on a website frequented by militants and provided by IntelCenter, was considered a charismatic leader and a prolific propagandist.
Al Qaeda's No. 2, Abu Yahya al Libi, seen in a 2007 video on a website (IntelCenter )
WASHINGTON CIA drone strikes have killed Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader, Abu Yahya al Libi, and at least two other people in a rural village in northwestern Pakistan in what U.S. officials called a major blow to the battered core leadership of the terrorist network.
<snip>
Libi, who was believed to be in his late 40s, was the second top Al Qaeda deputy killed since U.S. NavySEALs killed Osama bin Laden in a raid in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad in May 2011.
Bin Laden's longtime deputy, Ayman Zawahiri, initially named Atiyah Abdul Rahman as second in command. But a CIA drone missile killed Rahman in August, and Libi, another Libyan, was chosen as his replacement.
Al Qaeda's No. 2 killed in Pakistan by CIA drone strike - Los Angeles Times
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Ansar al Sharia, the group whose flag the Benghazi attackers displayed, is one of the largest armed extremist groups operating in Libya. But the attack came just hours after al Qaida leader Ayman al Zawahiri in a video appeal urged Libyans to attack U.S. targets to avenge the killing by a U.S. drone in June of his Libyan second in command, Abu Yahya al-Libi.
BENGHAZI, Libya: Islamists targeted U.S. diplomats with gunfire, RPGs in planned assault, witness says | Middle East | McClatchy DC
I'll delete the other post because both of these articles bring up both Libyans who were assassinated.
And just a quick aside, I have no problem with the government whacking these guys.
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