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It will be an interesting dynamic. The 30 million who are uninsured are probably underemployed. They are already recieving about 2/3 of the care they will recieve when they are covered, if they buy the insurance which is unlikely. They will more likely pay the $95.00 penalty due in the first year from their tax refund if they are due one, if not, no penalty and no punishment.
Wrong again my friend..
Those who are underemployed will now not have to make a choice between buying health insurance or paying the rent. They will not be penalized and will actually receive a subsidy to pay for the policy thay couldn't get before
A subsidy when you are unemployed or underemployed really doesn't help at all.
If I am unemployed (and I currently am) and the government comes along and says, "You now have to purchase health insurance... but we will subsidize 75% of the costs" that is still 25% that I must come up with. Unless the government subsidizes 100% of the cost for underemployed individuals this will hurt many who are barely able to pay the bills now.
My concern is for the people whose employers decide to drop health insurance benefits since it will now be possible for the individual to purchase his/her own insurance. Small businesses of less than 50 employees can do this and not be penalized at all. Those employees are going to suffer from this bill.
Immie
The Republican strategy for winning the 2010 elections hinged on two things
- The economy will fail
- Healthcare will fail
The strategy depended on Republicans doing nothing to prevent these things from happening
So far, the economy is recovering and it looks like jobs will be showing up by this summer (just in time for the elections). The Republicans will be held to their predictions of economic doom due to Democratic initiatives
Healthcare, as we know, has passed. This poll shows that it is not as unpopular with Americans as had been reported before the bill passed. Americans will find things in the bill that they like and do not want to give up. If the Republicans run on a "Repeal Healthcare" platform, they will be sent packing
Wrong again RW. What has happened is the Democrats have been painted as the party of we don't care what the public thinks, the healthcare bill will cost way more and not achieve the stated goals and most you unemployed still don'thave jobs. Frankly, I see no way for them to fix any of that before November. Your Japanese Zero is in a steep dive you can't pull out of in time. Enjoy the honor of your sacrifice.
Immie, the .2 or whatever is the result of rounding. The percents are rounded to the nearest number...which is why we never get polls saying 15.3 % yada yada yada. So when you figure backwards the people become .2s, etc.
It will be an interesting dynamic. The 30 million who are uninsured are probably underemployed. They are already recieving about 2/3 of the care they will recieve when they are covered, if they buy the insurance which is unlikely. They will more likely pay the $95.00 penalty due in the first year from their tax refund if they are due one, if not, no penalty and no punishment.
Wrong again my friend..
Those who are underemployed will now not have to make a choice between buying health insurance or paying the rent. They will not be penalized and will actually receive a subsidy to pay for the policy thay couldn't get before
A subsidy when you are unemployed or underemployed really doesn't help at all.
If I am unemployed (and I currently am) and the government comes along and says, "You now have to purchase health insurance... but we will subsidize 75% of the costs" that is still 25% that I must come up with. Unless the government subsidizes 100% of the cost for underemployed individuals this will hurt many who are barely able to pay the bills now.
My concern is for the people whose employers decide to drop health insurance benefits since it will now be possible for the individual to purchase his/her own insurance. Small businesses of less than 50 employees can do this and not be penalized at all. Those employees are going to suffer from this bill.
Immie
Wrong again my friend..
Those who are underemployed will now not have to make a choice between buying health insurance or paying the rent. They will not be penalized and will actually receive a subsidy to pay for the policy thay couldn't get before
A subsidy when you are unemployed or underemployed really doesn't help at all.
If I am unemployed (and I currently am) and the government comes along and says, "You now have to purchase health insurance... but we will subsidize 75% of the costs" that is still 25% that I must come up with. Unless the government subsidizes 100% of the cost for underemployed individuals this will hurt many who are barely able to pay the bills now.
My concern is for the people whose employers decide to drop health insurance benefits since it will now be possible for the individual to purchase his/her own insurance. Small businesses of less than 50 employees can do this and not be penalized at all. Those employees are going to suffer from this bill.
Immie
Don't worry Immie. LOL
Don't know how you will come up with the 25% you need to avoid the IRS but hey. Don't sweat the small stuff. Hell. THey will probably go after your unemployment check. Dirty Bastards. LOL
Wrong again my friend..
Those who are underemployed will now not have to make a choice between buying health insurance or paying the rent. They will not be penalized and will actually receive a subsidy to pay for the policy thay couldn't get before
A subsidy when you are unemployed or underemployed really doesn't help at all.
If I am unemployed (and I currently am) and the government comes along and says, "You now have to purchase health insurance... but we will subsidize 75% of the costs" that is still 25% that I must come up with. Unless the government subsidizes 100% of the cost for underemployed individuals this will hurt many who are barely able to pay the bills now.
My concern is for the people whose employers decide to drop health insurance benefits since it will now be possible for the individual to purchase his/her own insurance. Small businesses of less than 50 employees can do this and not be penalized at all. Those employees are going to suffer from this bill.
Immie
The loving, kind and caring government will just fine you $750 or more on your taxes for failing to carry the coverage. Hugs and kisses from your pals in DC.
A lot of small businesses that have 60 employees are going to become small businesses with 50 or less employees.
Just sayin'.
You know what would have been good for that?
A Public Option.
Just sayin'...
A lot of small businesses that have 60 employees are going to become small businesses with 50 or less employees.
Just sayin'.
You know what would have been good for that?
A Public Option.
Just sayin'...
Yes, it does when the 40% who think the car has too many options are using the 20% who want more as part of their justification not to buy the car and get a different one with less options.
show me where they have used the 20% to say they want a car with less options....
all i've seen is using the 20% to say people don't want "this" bill, which thus makes true that the majority do not want "this" bill
Intent is subjective and the last thing I am going to do is play semantic games with you.
The majority of Americans favored the bill or something stronger.
The right was trying to lump people against it because it didn't go far enough into their camp.
Sorry, but that's incorrect...
It's been explained in Ravi's other thread she abandoned...
The majority of americans DO and DID favor reforming health care.
The majority of americans DIDN'T and DO NOT favor the bill that was just passed.
Semantics can be very deceptive.
talking about yourself againFunny how you always manage to make yourself look like an asshole.Funny how you guys failed to lie enough about the contents to defeat it.
A lot of small businesses that have 60 employees are going to become small businesses with 50 or less employees.
Just sayin'.
You know what would have been good for that?
A Public Option.
Just sayin'...
A lot of small businesses that have 60 employees are going to become small businesses with 50 or less employees.
Just sayin'.
You know what would have been good for that?
A Public Option.
Just sayin'...
B'loney. Adding to the expense structure of a small business just causes them to reduce employees. We see that in the unemployment levels today.
The majority of Americans favored the bill or something stronger.
The right was trying to lump people against it because it didn't go far enough into their camp.
Sorry, but that's incorrect...
It's been explained in Ravi's other thread she abandoned...
The majority of americans DO and DID favor reforming health care.
The majority of americans DIDN'T and DO NOT favor the bill that was just passed.
Semantics can be very deceptive.
You know what would have been good for that?
A Public Option.
Just sayin'...
B'loney. Adding to the expense structure of a small business just causes them to reduce employees. We see that in the unemployment levels today.
How exactly would a Public Option add to the expense structure of small businesses?
WASHINGTON Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday,
Assuming that the poll reflects the opinion of the majority, isn't tyranny by the majority , tyranny nevertheless?
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