Any debate on global warming now OVER!?

[EMH]

I trust the experts that go on Fox News to you.

Then perhaps you can explain why Faux will not allow its viewers to observe anyone on Faux asking basic climate questions...


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



Before joining Faux, Gutfeld used to work at that bastion of conservatism, the Huffington Post. Gutfeld has known all of this stuff for two decades and he and Faux completely censor all of it.

If these questions were asked on Faux, that may very well tip the election.... since the Co2 FRAUD cannot answer any of those without admitting Co2 is NOT THE CAUSE...

 

[EMH]

Could not find any confirmation that Surface Air Pressure would rise as ice melts

Well, you really are a physics genius, aren't you. Clearly when ice age glacier ice melts, it releases air back into the atmosphere, increasing the molecular count of the atmosphere.

Let's try the reverse for you. Real toughy...

What happens to SURFACE AIR PRESSURE if we remove all the gas molecules from the atmosphere....???

Gosh that's tough, IQ over 5 required....

 

[EMH]

Yes

That's actually not an answer, so please reaffirm, if Earth warms, there would be MORE FIRES - is that what your "yes" means???

 

[Slyhunter]

Then perhaps you can explain why Faux will not allow its viewers to observe anyone on Faux asking basic climate questions...


1. Why does one Earth polar circle have 9+ times the ice of the other?
2. Why is there ice age glacier south of Arctic Circle on Greenland but no such ice age glacier north of Arctic Circle on Alaska?
3. If the oceans are "warming" why is the record decade for canes still the 1940s?
4. If the oceans are "rising" why can't we see one single photo of land sinking?
5. How did Co2 thaw North America and freeze Greenland at the same time?



Before joining Faux, Gutfeld used to work at that bastion of conservatism, the Huffington Post. Gutfeld has known all of this stuff for two decades and he and Faux completely censor all of it.

If these questions were asked on Faux, that may very well tip the election.... since the Co2 FRAUD cannot answer any of those without admitting Co2 is NOT THE CAUSE...

Because they don't want to.

 

[EMH]

Because they don't want to.

And why don't they want to?

Because they know it is a fraud, and they like it....

Heck, they never even noticed when homO went silent for two years...

https://www.google.com/search?q=obama+climate+silence+2010+2012&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS1003US1003&oq=o&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0i131i433i512l2j0i433i512j0i131i433i512l2j46i199i433i465i512.3999j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

The Silence of US President Obama on Climate Change-A Serious Ethical Lapse?

Editor’s note on the following entry. On the very day that the following entry was posted, President Obama mentioned climate change for the first time in a long time in a speech at the Unive…

ethicsandclimate.org

and Faux still has not noticed that Big Mike is a guy...

 

[ding]

I certainly would be if I got my news from you. You probably watch PMSNBC News.

Everything I posted was non-controversial empirical climate evidence from the geologic record. So, no. I actually study paleoclimates using real, non-controversial data. Been doing it for over 20 years. Whereas you have blindly accepted a belief that is based solely upon flawed computer modeling and false correlations.

 

[ding]

And you still cannot explain how they got "temperature" from ice cores....

As for the McBullshit video at the bottom, already destroyed on both poles..

How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?

This is where the climate debate is now stuck. Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today. Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very...

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The lies of Milankovich Cycles aka McBullshit - where was land mass Antarctica 70 million years ago

McBullshit claims Antarctica has been on the South Pole forever, it never moved at all. And, while it is on the South Pole, it has rapidly gone from ice age to tropical paradise and back over and over.... a Dennis Quaid theory for sure... We know that Antarctica has 70 million year old...

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The real question is, how did McBullshit pass a "peer review" when its tectonic movement is beyond wrong, it is flat out laughable...

From oxygen isotopes from the ice cores, dumb ass.

Keep denying the empirical evidence. And I'll keep rubbing your nose in it.

 

[alang1216]

Well, you really are a physics genius, aren't you. Clearly when ice age glacier ice melts, it releases air back into the atmosphere, increasing the molecular count of the atmosphere.

Let's try the reverse for you. Real toughy...

What happens to SURFACE AIR PRESSURE if we remove all the gas molecules from the atmosphere....???

Gosh that's tough, IQ over 5 required....

Do the math if you want to convince anyone. Your theories are no better than the fudged data you rail against.

Let me get you started:

1. If all ice is 10% air, how much air is trapped in the Earth's ice?
2. What percent of the existing atmosphere would that be?

 

[alang1216]

That's actually not an answer, so please reaffirm, if Earth warms, there would be MORE FIRES - is that what your "yes" means???

The Earth is not homogeneous so some places would be more while others would get less.

 

[EMH]

From oxygen isotopes from the ice cores, dumb ass.

Keep denying the empirical evidence. And I'll keep rubbing your nose in it.

And precisely HOW do you get TEMPERATURE from isotopes??

You don't.

The Co2 FRAUD simply fudged it...

Those isotopes have sat in that ice for thousands of years.

 

[ding]

And precisely HOW do you get TEMPERATURE from isotopes??

You don't.

The Co2 FRAUD simply fudged it...

Those isotopes have sat in that ice for thousands of years.

Paleoclimatology: The Oxygen Balance

Oxygen is one of the most significant keys to deciphering past climates.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

 

[EMH]

Paleoclimatology: The Oxygen Balance

Oxygen is one of the most significant keys to deciphering past climates.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

Paleoclimatologists use oxygen ratios from water trapped in glaciers as well as the oxygen absorbed in the shells of marine plants and animals to measure past temperatures and rainfall. In polar ice cores, the measurement is relatively simple: less heavy oxygen in the frozen water means that temperatures were cooler.



LAUGHABLE

NO WAY TO TEST IT

OTHER EXPLANATIONS EXIST

COMPLETE FRAUD

 

[EMH]

The Earth is not homogeneous so some places would be more while others would get less.

Actually when Earth warms it gets wetter, more H2O in the atmosphere...

During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today

https://www.google.com/search?q=jurassic+warmer+wetter&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS1003US1003&oq=jurassic+warmer&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0i22i30j0i390i512i650l3j0i512i546l4.17575j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Jurassic was a period when Earth had little to no land near the poles, and hence way less than the 9 million cubic miles of ice it has today. Jurassic was warmer, wetter, and had higher surface air pressure. Dinosaurs grew feathers because it was raining almost all the time.

 

[EMH]

Do the math if you want to convince anyone. Your theories are no better than the fudged data you rail against.

Let me get you started:

1. If all ice is 10% air, how much air is trapped in the Earth's ice?
2. What percent of the existing atmosphere would that be?

You are not accounting for compression. The deeper the ice is buried, the more compression. A mile down in Antarctic ice and it is 50 fold. Further down, even more.

There is more air trapped in Antarctic ice than is in the atmosphere now. That is why Jurassic had 2+ times our surface air pressure, because all of that was "loose" and now it is frozen and out of the atmosphere.

Ice age glacier is the key driver of climate change, and ice age glacier is about land near the poles....

Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

What is an ICE AGE? Most apparently still believe it is a terrifying horror movie event where Earth all at once freezes up. The data has never supported such a scenario. Since 2010, there has been a massive effort to re-write Earth climate history into a series of rapid "glaciations" and ice...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[alang1216]

Actually when Earth warms it gets wetter, more H2O in the atmosphere...

During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today

https://www.google.com/search?q=jurassic+warmer+wetter&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS1003US1003&oq=jurassic+warmer&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j69i59j0i22i30j0i390i512i650l3j0i512i546l4.17575j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Jurassic was a period when Earth had little to no land near the poles, and hence way less than the 9 million cubic miles of ice it has today. Jurassic was warmer, wetter, and had higher surface air pressure. Dinosaurs grew feathers because it was raining almost all the time.

You started off OK but how do you know the Jurassic had higher surface air pressure? This sounds way off too: Dinosaurs grew feathers because it was raining almost all the time. What advantage did feathers provide over scales?

 

[alang1216]

You are not accounting for compression. The deeper the ice is buried, the more compression. A mile down in Antarctic ice and it is 50 fold. Further down, even more.

Pressure and compression are not the same thing. Water and ice are NOT compressible beyond a tiny amount.

There is more air trapped in Antarctic ice than is in the atmosphere now. That is why Jurassic had 2+ times our surface air pressure, because all of that was "loose" and now it is frozen and out of the atmosphere.

Who made those calculations?

 

[ding]

Paleoclimatologists use oxygen ratios from water trapped in glaciers as well as the oxygen absorbed in the shells of marine plants and animals to measure past temperatures and rainfall. In polar ice cores, the measurement is relatively simple: less heavy oxygen in the frozen water means that temperatures were cooler.



LAUGHABLE

NO WAY TO TEST IT

OTHER EXPLANATIONS EXIST

COMPLETE FRAUD

Oxygen isotope measurements are considered highly accurate, especially when analyzed using modern mass spectrometry techniques, providing a reliable tool for studying past climates and geological processes due to their good reproducibility and sensitivity to environmental changes; however, accuracy can be affected by factors like sample preparation, matrix effects, and the specific analytical method used, with precision often reported in the range of 0.2‰ (per mil) or better.

Paleoclimatology: The Oxygen Balance

Oxygen is one of the most significant keys to deciphering past climates.

earthobservatory.nasa.gov

 

[EMH]

how do you know the Jurassic had higher surface air pressure?

It really isn't that hard to find...

jurassic surface air pressure - Google Search

The atmospheric pressure during the Jurassic Period was likely much higher than it is today, at least 3.2–5.0 bar compared to the current 1 bar.



and THAT is what is trapped in ice age glacier on Antarctica and Greenland today, the difference...

 

[EMH]

Co2 Fraud hasn't fudged all data, surface air pressure for one....

The Co2 FRAUD is run by very lame "climate scientists" who flat out aren't very good at science at all. They are good at lying, fudging data, and censoring truth. But there is data, and it isn't friendly to the Co2 FRAUD, which is why the Co2 FRAUD fudges everything they think they need to...

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Comparison of the interannual variation in sea level and air pressure at sea level, and the 5-year moving average for the period 1963–2005.​

If there was an ongoing net ice melt on Planet Earth, Surface Air Pressure would be rising... but it isn't...

LOL!!

 

[EMH]

Oxygen isotope measurements are considered highly accurate

This is the boilerplate answer from the Co2 FRAUD about all FUDGE....


There is ZERO way to test that.

There is hence ZERO reason to say that with any credibility. Other factors than temperature affect isotopes. Volcano eruptions are one.

No wonder it has that pathetic zig zag chart.... laughable.