AOC humiliated at a Town Hall: "You ran as a outsider but are voting to start nuclear war with Russia & China. you're a progressive socialist coward!"

[marvin martian]

So are the Rs.

Yep, but the Dems had long enjoyed the false perception that they "oppose war". That's gone now with Obama's 8 years of constant war and Biden's dangerous warmongering in Ukraine.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Thats just some bullshit you made up.

50% of Republicans, 64% of Independants and 80% of Democrats support arming Ukraine as long as it takes for them to retake their territories.

Americans Back Ukrainian Goal of Reclaiming Territory

A majority of Americans support Ukraine in reclaiming lost territory, even if it means a prolonged conflict. Democrats are the most ardent in backing Ukraine.

news.gallup.com

That makes it America's bussiness and I double dare you isolationists to go and try to run a candidate who favors abandoning Ukraine.

Regardless, no matter what party they are in, 99.99% of people making "Stand with Ukaine" proclamations have even a sliver of an idea of the reasons/history of this conflict. None.
And yeah - arming supposed allies has never back fired right? Those arms never fall into the wrong hands right? We have never lost technology off of stolen arms before right?
Supplying arms never leads to an escalation of a war right? Has never caused increased death and prolonging a war - right?
And every time we have supplied weapons, the outcome of the war always goes our way right?

We cannot supply Ukraine with enough armament without spending 5x what we have so far. It is fucking Russia. Putin is clearly losing his mind here. He is clearly willing to take this as far as it takes - gee - so good of us to facilitate that. So good of us to provide $billions that will likely fall into Russian hands if half of it hasn't already. Clearly the money is not exactly going where it is supposed to.
If this fucking war get's out of hand, and it will, we'll see how many "I stand with Urkrain" bots are willing to take that literal.

 

[AntonToo]

Regardless, no matter what party they are in, 99.99% of people making "Stand with Ukaine" proclamations have even a sliver of an idea of the reasons/history of this conflict. None.

You can repeat that bullshit as much as you want, doesn't make it true.

Case for support of Ukraine is very simple - they are a young democracy and a sovereign country, they were violently invaded without provocation and are defending their land.

Not a very complicated concept.

 

[Paleman]

Those at that meeting are far left liberals and they believe no funding should be given to Ukraine, and Cortez campaigns as an outsider and she is now an insider that votes the party line. We have no business in this war and we have no business funding this war, liberals Used to be against conflict, no longer is it true.

If you actually and wrongly believe that we have no business in this Russian, Ukrainian war, you are saying that we and the world should just look the other way when our sworn enemies attack another nation. The end result of that warped position means that some day, Russia, China or Iran will be knocking on our door. Will we then be able to respond? Will our neighbors respond? Will you then agree that there should be a vigorous and lethal response? No need to answer, by then it will be too late. Dipshit!

 

[pknopp]

You can repeat that bullshit as much as you want, doesn't make it true.

Case for support of Ukraine is very simple - they are a sovereign country, they were invaded without provocation and are defending their land. Not a very complicated concept.

They entered into the agreement with Russia when Russia removed their nukes. They sought to violate that agreement.

 

[pknopp]

If you actually and wrongly believe that we have no business in this Russian, Ukrainian war, you are saying that we and the world should just look the other way when our sworn enemies attack another nation. The end result of that warped position means that some day, Russia, China or Iran will be knocking on our door. Will we then be able to respond? Will our neighbors respond? Will you then agree that there should be a vigorous and lethal response? No need to answer, by then it will be too late. Dipshit!

Russia did nothing we weren't prepared to do with Cuba when Russia was set to put missiles there.

 

[Paleman]

Russia did nothing we weren't prepared to do with Cuba when Russia was set to put missiles there.

WTF! Russia in Cuba would be a direct threat to the US, and we would be justified in intervening. Ukraine is no threat to Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine solely as a power grab and if left to their devices, what sovereign nation would be next. Would you continue to look the other way?

 

[AntonToo]

They entered into the agreement with Russia when Russia removed their nukes. They sought to violate that agreement.

Agreement was that Ukraine liquidates it's nuclear stockpiles in exachange for security guaranteees from Russia.

Ukraine gave up the nukes and Russia annexed Crimea in 2014...and now you are going to try to claim that Ukraine violated the agreement?

Who pumped you full of that bullshit?

 

[pknopp]

WTF! Russia in Cuba would be a direct threat to the US, and we would be justified in intervening. Ukraine is no threat to Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine solely as a power grab and if left to their devices, what sovereign nation would be next. Would you continue to look the other way?

Joining NATO would have allowed NATO to put missiles on their border. We along with others agreed to not support that in exchange for Russia removing theirs.

 

[AntonToo]

Russia did nothing we weren't prepared to do with Cuba when Russia was set to put missiles there.

There were never any plans for nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

Why do you keep posting Russian propaganda? Who is pumping you full of this bulshit?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You can repeat that bullshit as much as you want, doesn't make it true.

Case for support of Ukraine is very simple - they are a young democracy and a sovereign country, they were violently invaded without provocation and are defending their land.

Not a very complicated concept.

Hilarious

 

[pknopp]

There were never any plans for nuclear weapons in Ukraine.

I said nothing about nuclear weapons.

Why do you keep posting Russian propaganda? Who is pumping you full of this bulshit?

I'm posting factual history.

 

[AntonToo]

Joining NATO would have allowed NATO to put missiles on their border.

Ignoramus there are ALREADY four NATO countries on Russian border (soon to be more). Never any nuclear missiles deployed to any of them.

 

[marvin martian]

Ukraine gave up the nukes and Russia annexed Crimea in 2014

Joe Biden's first act. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is his second act.

Biden works for Putin.

 

[pknopp]

Ignoramus there are ALREADY four NATO countries on Russian border (soon to be more). Never any nuclear missiles deployed to any of them.

I said nothing about nuclear. But don't let that stop you.

 

[AntonToo]

I said nothing about nuclear weapons.

Because you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Cuban crisis was about NUCLEAR MISSLES deployment by USSR.

in July 1962 Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev reached a secret agreement with Cuban premier Fidel Castro to place Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

history.state.gov 3.0 shell

history.state.gov

 

[AntonToo]

Joe Biden's first act.

Russian invasion and annexation of Ukraine's land in 2014 was...Joe Biden's act?

Are you at least a little embarassed to shit your pants publicly like this?

 

[JustAGuy1]

You can repeat that bullshit as much as you want, doesn't make it true.

Case for support of Ukraine is very simple - they are a young democracy and a sovereign country, they were violently invaded without provocation and are defending their land.

Not a very complicated concept.

No, you actually proved his point. You refuse to do your own research because you are a phony, lazy partisan.

 

[AntonToo]

Hilarious

Enlightening.

 

[pknopp]

Because you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Cuban crisis was about NUCLEAR MISSLES deployment by USSR.

in July 1962 Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev reached a secret agreement with Cuban premier Fidel Castro to place Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba

Milestones in the History of U.S. Foreign Relations - Office of the Historian

history.state.gov 3.0 shell

history.state.gov

The agreement was no eastward expansion of NATO.