Are Gun Free Zones Working?

JimBowie1958

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Are Gun-Free Zones Working? | Dare to Read, Think, Speak and Write

Western Europe has some of the strictest gun laws, yet three of the worst school shootings in the world took place in either Britain or Germany. In China, a country that bans guns, it is common for a school attack to take place each month; instead of guns, the killers use hammers, knives, and meat cleavers to kill school children. In Kennesaw, Georgia, the law requires that each household (with a few exception) own a firearm. In 2007, Family Circle named it one of the 10 best towns for families. The reason is probably because ever since the law passed in 1982 requiring everyone to own a gun, crime rate has decreased 50% and continues to decrease, having one of the lowest crime rates in the country. The residents believe it is because criminals know that everyone had a gun, thus it is best not to rob someone’s house. Strict gun laws do not guarantee safety since criminals do not obey the laws and will do harm, even in countries where guns are not allowed, the criminal still manages to kill. Meanwhile a town with a lax gun law boasts one of the lowest crime rates in the country.
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In 1999, John Lott of the University of Maryland and William Landes of the University of Chicago published a study that stated that mass shootings usually occur at places were firearms are banned, such as schools and malls. A shooter does not want to be shot before he finishes his goal of killing. When he goes into a gun-free zone, he knows that no one will be able to fire back at him. The Aurora movie theater killer, who killed 12 people, had 7 theaters to choose within 20 minutes of his house to commit his vicious crime. He did not choose the farthest theater or the closes theater, he chose the only one that banned concealed handguns. In the past, several shootings that occurred on gun-free zones were stopped when a civilian ran back to his car to get a gun out from the glove compartment and then confronted the shooter. Though some people are outraged that President Obama proposed more police officers in schools, the large number of mass shootings that require at gun-free zones show that gun-free zones do not work; to the shooter, he knows he has plenty of time to kill before the police arrive.

Gun Free Zones are Killing Fields, but we already know how comfortable the Jacobins are with those sorts of things.
 
And for justifying laws to strip your citizens of any weapons to defend themselves.
 
White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - Washington Post

Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years — not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine — have been committed by white men and boys. Yet when the National Rifle Association (NRA), led by white men, held a news conference after the Newtown massacre to advise Americans on how to reduce gun violence, its leaders’ opinions were widely discussed.

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It is rather odd no one discusses the clear danger of mass murder and white men and boys.
 
no one discusses it? wtf? the media was all over guns for MONTHS after each incident.

you're a dumb lying hack rdean. there was legislation thrown up all around the country after those incidences. why can't you just try to be honest?
 
White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - Washington Post

Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years — not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine — have been committed by white men and boys. Yet when the National Rifle Association (NRA), led by white men, held a news conference after the Newtown massacre to advise Americans on how to reduce gun violence, its leaders’ opinions were widely discussed.

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It is rather odd no one discusses the clear danger of mass murder and white men and boys.

You fucking racist bitch.
 
no one discusses it? wtf? the media was all over guns for MONTHS after each incident.

you're a dumb lying hack rdean. there was legislation thrown up all around the country after those incidences. why can't you just try to be honest?

His purpose here is to cause confusion, doubt and misguidance through the use of lies, distortions and inflammatory attacks.

By nature he is just a fucking liar and a sociopath.
 
The number of people killed in the average mass shooting would be a quiet weekend in Chicago, Detroit or Philadelphia.
 
White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - Washington Post

Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years — not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine — have been committed by white men and boys. Yet when the National Rifle Association (NRA), led by white men, held a news conference after the Newtown massacre to advise Americans on how to reduce gun violence, its leaders’ opinions were widely discussed.

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It is rather odd no one discusses the clear danger of mass murder and white men and boys.

They aren't much of a danger because they usually off themselves.

Black and Hispanic serial killers usually keep doing it until they're caught, like Aaron Hernandez and John Allen Muhammad.

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Born John Allen Williams in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, to Ernest and Eva Williams, he and his family moved to New Orleans when his mother was diagnosed with breast cancer; she died when he was five.[6] After his mother's death, his father left and he was raised mostly by his grandfather and an aunt. Muhammad enlisted in the Louisiana Army National Guard in 1979 and, after seven years of service, volunteered for active duty in 1986. In 1987 he joined the Nation of Islam.[7]

While in the U.S. Army, Muhammad was trained as a mechanic, truck driver and specialist metalworker. He qualified with the Army's standard infantry rifle, the M16, earning the Expert Rifleman's Badge. This rating is the Army's highest of three levels of marksmanship for a basic soldier. He was discharged from military service following the Gulf War, as a sergeant, in 1994[2] after service in the Persian Gulf.[8]

As a member of the Nation of Islam, Muhammad helped provide security for the "Million Man March" in 1995, but Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan has publicly distanced himself and his organization from Muhammad's crimes.[9] Muhammad kidnapped his children and brought them to Antigua around 1999, apparently engaging in credit card and immigration document fraud. It was during this time that he became close with Lee Boyd Malvo, who later acted as his partner in the killings. Williams changed his name to John Allen Muhammad in October 2001.

After his arrest, authorities also claimed that Muhammad admitted that he admired and modeled himself after Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, and approved of the September 11 attacks. One of Malvo's psychiatric witnesses testified in his trial that Muhammad had indoctrinated him into believing that the proceeds of the extortion attempt would be used to begin a new nation of only young, "pure" black people somewhere in Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad
 
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White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - Washington Post

Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years — not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine — have been committed by white men and boys. Yet when the National Rifle Association (NRA), led by white men, held a news conference after the Newtown massacre to advise Americans on how to reduce gun violence, its leaders’ opinions were widely discussed.

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It is rather odd no one discusses the clear danger of mass murder and white men and boys.

They aren't much of a danger because they usually off themselves.

Black and Hispanic serial killers usually keep doing it until they're caught, like Aaron Hernandez and John Allen Muhammad.

220px-John_Allen_Muhammad.jpg
Aaron-Hernandez-Murder-Inve.jpg

that simply is not true
 
They don't work and never will because criminals don't give a flying F*** about laws and gun free zones. Gun free Zones = easy pickins.
 
White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - Washington Post

Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years — not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine — have been committed by white men and boys. Yet when the National Rifle Association (NRA), led by white men, held a news conference after the Newtown massacre to advise Americans on how to reduce gun violence, its leaders’ opinions were widely discussed.

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It is rather odd no one discusses the clear danger of mass murder and white men and boys.

You fucking racist bitch.




Bro......he is only to be laughed at.......a flambouyant limpwrister or a miserable feminist bulldog. One or the other.

Whoever he or she is, this forum is their whole life. Doesn't get more pathetic than that.......
 
They work fine if you are a mass murderer looking for a location to do your killing.

Mass murders don't care if it's a gun free zone or not. If they are hell bent on shooting a bunch of people, they are going to do it. Here is a big problem with the whole idea of being against gun free zones. You assume that if it's not a gun free zone, that there will be lots of people packing. The truth is that not many carry. Chances are the mass murderer still kills a lot of people. I'm not saying gun free zones are the answer or are not the answer. The point is that just not having gun free zones won't change anything. Too many of you believe if it's not a gun free zone, these killers would never kill or someone would stop them before they killed a lot of people.
 
White men have much to discuss about mass shootings - Washington Post

Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years — not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine — have been committed by white men and boys. Yet when the National Rifle Association (NRA), led by white men, held a news conference after the Newtown massacre to advise Americans on how to reduce gun violence, its leaders’ opinions were widely discussed.

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It is rather odd no one discusses the clear danger of mass murder and white men and boys.

They aren't much of a danger because they usually off themselves.

Black and Hispanic serial killers usually keep doing it until they're caught, like Aaron Hernandez and John Allen Muhammad.

220px-John_Allen_Muhammad.jpg
Aaron-Hernandez-Murder-Inve.jpg

that simply is not true

lol, it is so true
 
They work fine if you are a mass murderer looking for a location to do your killing.

Mass murders don't care if it's a gun free zone or not. If they are hell bent on shooting a bunch of people, they are going to do it. Here is a big problem with the whole idea of being against gun free zones. You assume that if it's not a gun free zone, that there will be lots of people packing. The truth is that not many carry. Chances are the mass murderer still kills a lot of people. I'm not saying gun free zones are the answer or are not the answer. The point is that just not having gun free zones won't change anything. Too many of you believe if it's not a gun free zone, these killers would never kill or someone would stop them before they killed a lot of people.

So it is purely coincidence that ALL mass killings for the past thirty years or so (except two) were done in gun free zones?

The Aurora theater killer passed up other theaters in the ara to get to the ONE THA BANNED GUNS.

Coincidence? Are you THAT stupid?
 
They work fine if you are a mass murderer looking for a location to do your killing.

Mass murders don't care if it's a gun free zone or not. If they are hell bent on shooting a bunch of people, they are going to do it. Here is a big problem with the whole idea of being against gun free zones. You assume that if it's not a gun free zone, that there will be lots of people packing. The truth is that not many carry. Chances are the mass murderer still kills a lot of people. I'm not saying gun free zones are the answer or are not the answer. The point is that just not having gun free zones won't change anything. Too many of you believe if it's not a gun free zone, these killers would never kill or someone would stop them before they killed a lot of people.

If a killer is an organized killer, why WOULDNT he pick a gun free zone that has no real controls or protections around its perimeter?

I have a feeling they do care alot, because they KNOW they have X amount of time to create carnage before the police arrive.

A true gun free zone needs a controlled perimeter and armed people onsite to be truly called "gun free" A court or an airport is a good example of a real gun free zone, not a feel good one.
 
They work fine if you are a mass murderer looking for a location to do your killing.

Mass murders don't care if it's a gun free zone or not. If they are hell bent on shooting a bunch of people, they are going to do it. Here is a big problem with the whole idea of being against gun free zones. You assume that if it's not a gun free zone, that there will be lots of people packing. The truth is that not many carry. Chances are the mass murderer still kills a lot of people. I'm not saying gun free zones are the answer or are not the answer. The point is that just not having gun free zones won't change anything. Too many of you believe if it's not a gun free zone, these killers would never kill or someone would stop them before they killed a lot of people.

So it is purely coincidence that ALL mass killings for the past thirty years or so (except two) were done in gun free zones?

The Aurora theater killer passed up other theaters in the ara to get to the ONE THA BANNED GUNS.

Coincidence? Are you THAT stupid?

No, you are that stupid. The theater he chose was the closest one to his home and the one with the easiest access to gain entry.

Did The Aurora Shooter Seek Out A "Gun Free" Zone? : GUNFAQ.ORG
 

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