When exactly does the Democrats' socialism kick in?

The right wing lemmings for decades have campaigned on the theme that democrats want to usher in socialism. Well, when? After 8 years of Clinton, 8 years of Obama, 4 years of Biden, when does the socialism kick in and what does it look like specifically when it comes to programs?

Biden's largest achievements are:
  • Infrastructure Bill not socialism and disproportionately benefited rural America
  • CHIPS Bill not socialism and is supporting capitalist growth of manufacturing
  • PACT act - veteran healthcare is caring for vets socialism?
  • American Rescue Plan - not socialism and saved the capital markets and the small business engine of America setting it up to be the healthiest in the world
Not exactly the socialist list of dream policies. Even Obama's Affordable Care Act which pools risk is wildly popular in America and used in Red States to a higher degree than Blue States. In fact only one congressman proposed ending it in the last midterm elections. The rest of Republicans have moved on.

When will I see the socialism?



Your party is full of politicians who are ok with calling themselves Democratic Socialists because the lemmings that vote for them are ok with it. Are Democrats dumb enough to believe that Democratic Socialism is an amalgamation of just the good parts of Democracy and Socialism all balled into one? National Socialists has a bit of a bad reputation, so they changed one world and the sheeple run with it. Our country is doomed if the masses are as dumbed down and indoctrinated as they appear to be.
 
Your party is full of politicians who are ok with calling themselves Democratic Socialists because the lemmings that vote for them are ok with it. Are Democrats dumb enough to believe that Democratic Socialism is an amalgamation of just the good parts of Democracy and Socialism all balled into one? National Socialists has a bit of a bad reputation, so they changed one world and the sheeple run with it. Our country is doomed if the masses are as dumbed down and indoctrinated as they appear to be.
An old guy named Bernie identifies like that and is very nuanced in his views plus 4 others, to be 3 soon as one lost her primary. is not "full". And Bernie likes the Nordic version of social support but he hasnt implemented one socialist bill in his zillion years in congress so... what policy are you talking about?
 
An old guy named Bernie identifies like that and is very nuanced in his views plus 4 others, to be 3 soon as one lost her primary. is not "full". And Bernie likes the Nordic version of social support but he hasnt implemented one socialist bill in his zillion years in congress so... what policy are you talking about?

Harris, the current Democratic nomiee(if you can call her that), is right on par with Bernie, if not even further left. For example, Harris and Bernie raised their hands on stage during the 2020 Democratic primaries when ask who was in favor of removing private health insurance. You are being duped if you don’t know how far left Harris is.
 
Harris, the current Democratic nomiee(if you can call her that), is right on par with Bernie, if not even further left. For example, Harris and Bernie raised their hands on stage during the 2020 Democratic primaries when ask who was in favor of removing private health insurance. You are being duped if you don’t know how far left Harris is.
Sure. Secret lefty taking over. Meanwhile you failed like everyone else in explaining where this socialist scare will arise. Harris hasnt proposed a single socialist transition idea at all. I guess its double secret probation.
 
Sure. Secret lefty taking over. Meanwhile you failed like everyone else in explaining where this socialist scare will arise. Harris hasnt proposed a single socialist transition idea at all. I guess its double secret probation.

Um, price fixing, national health care with the lack of private health insurance?
 
Let me help righties. Here is socialism in the US:

  • Education is socialized with a private option. Communities run educations and educate everyone which is mandatory until you are 18
  • Libraries are socialized with private options if you want to buy materials instead of borrow. Communities run them and all contribute to the funding of it in the local community
  • Policing is socialized with some private options in security but NO private options for law enforcement. Law enforcement is community run and funded by the community.
  • Public spaces are socialized with some private options but they are dwarfed by community parks
  • Maintaining infrastructure is socialized. We do not pay private companies to own the means of transportation as we use them. We pool resources and build them as a government.
  • Your miliary protection is socialized

Oil, gas, food, entertainment, clothing, vacationing, and virtually everything else is private and there are no moves to socialize any of it. Even healthcare is destined to be private but the insurance continues to drift toward a public solutions with private options - like education.

There is no movement toward socialism happening.
 
Let me help righties. Here is socialism in the US:

  • Education is socialized with a private option. Communities run educations and educate everyone which is mandatory until you are 18
  • Libraries are socialized with private options if you want to buy materials instead of borrow. Communities run them and all contribute to the funding of it in the local community
  • Policing is socialized with some private options in security but NO private options for law enforcement. Law enforcement is community run and funded by the community.
  • Public spaces are socialized with some private options but they are dwarfed by community parks
  • Maintaining infrastructure is socialized. We do not pay private companies to own the means of transportation as we use them. We pool resources and build them as a government.
  • Your miliary protection is socialized

Oil, gas, food, entertainment, clothing, vacationing, and virtually everything else is private and there are no moves to socialize any of it. Even healthcare is destined to be private but the insurance continues to drift toward a public solutions with private options - like education.

There is no movement toward socialism happening.
Government subsidies for billionaires are socialized, including bailouts:
RankParentSubsidy Valuesort iconNumber of Awards
1Boeing$15,496,865,703958
2Intel$8,421,707,656135
3Ford Motor$7,742,056,086703
4General Motors$7,524,714,800792
5Micron Technology$6,790,131,91521
6Amazon.com$5,823,705,434460
7Alcoa$5,727,691,764134
8Cheniere Energy$5,617,152,52343
9Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)$4,820,110,11274
10Venture Global LNG$4,338,702,4418
11Texas Instruments$4,286,328,86969
12Volkswagen$3,977,630,513217
13Sempra Energy$3,828,022,78251
14NRG Energy$3,415,751,518266
15NextEra Energy$3,008,691,129116
16Sasol$2,836,049,84572
17Tesla Inc.$2,829,855,494114
18Stellantis$2,795,436,436213
19Walt Disney$2,543,219,673265
20Nucor$2,538,761,123176
21Iberdrola$2,380,558,984110
22Rivian Automotive Inc.$2,364,054,0127
23Hyundai Motor$2,349,743,47018
24Oracle$2,272,418,28896
25Shell PLC$2,211,676,001132
26Mubadala Investment Company$2,124,035,09762
27Nike$2,104,917,829153
28Meta Platforms Inc.$2,098,261,27282
29Toyota$2,071,010,689239
30Alphabet Inc.$2,054,325,527125
31Brookfield Corporation$1,979,408,388288
32Paramount Global$1,974,249,897342
33Comcast$1,927,402,844405
34Exxon Mobil$1,917,119,478241
35Samsung Electronics$1,891,136,59741
36Apple Inc.$1,845,004,67063
37Nissan$1,842,814,16598
38Berkshire Hathaway$1,830,986,2531,200
39Summit Power$1,783,593,4146
40JPMorgan Chase$1,740,972,6991,151
41Energy Transfer$1,736,836,843175
42Cleveland-Cliffs$1,705,497,604129
43Southern Company$1,694,958,17245
44General Electric$1,645,135,367958
45Vornado Realty Trust$1,623,857,33633
46Duke Energy$1,580,421,86986
47Wolfspeed Inc.$1,563,595,61064
48General Atomics$1,510,875,891112
49IBM Corp.$1,497,901,697368
50Lockheed Martin$1,462,674,082325
51OGE Energy$1,427,570,18215
52SCS Energy$1,419,011,7965
53Corning Inc.$1,391,603,359401
54Panasonic$1,384,147,58461
55Microsoft$1,366,243,159113
56Sagamore Development$1,320,000,0002
57Northrop Grumman$1,284,014,883285
58Vingroup$1,254,000,0001
59Continental AG$1,244,875,478111
60RTX Corporation$1,193,950,954797
61CF Industries$1,134,394,215131
62Valero Energy$1,053,812,692207
63Dow Inc.$1,049,354,213640
64AES Corp.$1,039,510,135136
65Air Products & Chemicals$1,025,557,48288
66Exelon$986,892,87798
67Pyramid Companies$973,565,27893
68SK Holdings$960,550,2838
69SkyWest$944,296,654339
70Centene$916,607,05460
71Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.$900,000,0001
72Apollo Global Management$897,750,089594
73Delta Air Lines$871,485,83313
74Jefferies Financial Group$871,137,33516
75SK Hynix$866,700,0002
76Bayer$852,475,226217
77Honda$849,832,30193
78Shin-Etsu Chemical$828,683,936106
79Enterprise Products Partners$826,988,37189
80SunEdison$817,425,725115
81Goldman Sachs$800,873,386253
82Bank of America$798,426,128956
83E.ON$786,865,47340
84Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.$786,835,708219
85EDF-Electricite de France$774,590,44136
86Triple Five Worldwide$748,000,0004
87EDP-Energias de Portugal$733,674,86814
88Related Companies$714,675,5048
89Koch Industries$683,066,388510
90Caithness Energy$672,688,88830
91Dell Technologies$658,417,951185
92Wells Fargo$657,333,216542
93FedEx$647,035,546633
94Entergy$638,533,387235
95OCI N.V.$627,879,4065
96Eli Lilly$623,326,36879
97Chevron Phillips Chemical$619,839,44420
98Bedrock Detroit$618,000,0001
99Dominion Energy$615,436,08979
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Capitalism privatizes its profits and makes public its losses.

It's socialism for the rich, and "pick yourself up by your own bootstraps" capitalism for the rest of us. That's how our system works.

 
Government subsidies for billionaires are socialized, including bailouts:
RankParentSubsidy Valuesort iconNumber of Awards
1Boeing$15,496,865,703958
2Intel$8,421,707,656135
3Ford Motor$7,742,056,086703
4General Motors$7,524,714,800792
5Micron Technology$6,790,131,91521
6Amazon.com$5,823,705,434460
7Alcoa$5,727,691,764134
8Cheniere Energy$5,617,152,52343
9Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)$4,820,110,11274
10Venture Global LNG$4,338,702,4418
11Texas Instruments$4,286,328,86969
12Volkswagen$3,977,630,513217
13Sempra Energy$3,828,022,78251
14NRG Energy$3,415,751,518266
15NextEra Energy$3,008,691,129116
16Sasol$2,836,049,84572
17Tesla Inc.$2,829,855,494114
18Stellantis$2,795,436,436213
19Walt Disney$2,543,219,673265
20Nucor$2,538,761,123176
21Iberdrola$2,380,558,984110
22Rivian Automotive Inc.$2,364,054,0127
23Hyundai Motor$2,349,743,47018
24Oracle$2,272,418,28896
25Shell PLC$2,211,676,001132
26Mubadala Investment Company$2,124,035,09762
27Nike$2,104,917,829153
28Meta Platforms Inc.$2,098,261,27282
29Toyota$2,071,010,689239
30Alphabet Inc.$2,054,325,527125
31Brookfield Corporation$1,979,408,388288
32Paramount Global$1,974,249,897342
33Comcast$1,927,402,844405
34Exxon Mobil$1,917,119,478241
35Samsung Electronics$1,891,136,59741
36Apple Inc.$1,845,004,67063
37Nissan$1,842,814,16598
38Berkshire Hathaway$1,830,986,2531,200
39Summit Power$1,783,593,4146
40JPMorgan Chase$1,740,972,6991,151
41Energy Transfer$1,736,836,843175
42Cleveland-Cliffs$1,705,497,604129
43Southern Company$1,694,958,17245
44General Electric$1,645,135,367958
45Vornado Realty Trust$1,623,857,33633
46Duke Energy$1,580,421,86986
47Wolfspeed Inc.$1,563,595,61064
48General Atomics$1,510,875,891112
49IBM Corp.$1,497,901,697368
50Lockheed Martin$1,462,674,082325
51OGE Energy$1,427,570,18215
52SCS Energy$1,419,011,7965
53Corning Inc.$1,391,603,359401
54Panasonic$1,384,147,58461
55Microsoft$1,366,243,159113
56Sagamore Development$1,320,000,0002
57Northrop Grumman$1,284,014,883285
58Vingroup$1,254,000,0001
59Continental AG$1,244,875,478111
60RTX Corporation$1,193,950,954797
61CF Industries$1,134,394,215131
62Valero Energy$1,053,812,692207
63Dow Inc.$1,049,354,213640
64AES Corp.$1,039,510,135136
65Air Products & Chemicals$1,025,557,48288
66Exelon$986,892,87798
67Pyramid Companies$973,565,27893
68SK Holdings$960,550,2838
69SkyWest$944,296,654339
70Centene$916,607,05460
71Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.$900,000,0001
72Apollo Global Management$897,750,089594
73Delta Air Lines$871,485,83313
74Jefferies Financial Group$871,137,33516
75SK Hynix$866,700,0002
76Bayer$852,475,226217
77Honda$849,832,30193
78Shin-Etsu Chemical$828,683,936106
79Enterprise Products Partners$826,988,37189
80SunEdison$817,425,725115
81Goldman Sachs$800,873,386253
82Bank of America$798,426,128956
83E.ON$786,865,47340
84Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.$786,835,708219
85EDF-Electricite de France$774,590,44136
86Triple Five Worldwide$748,000,0004
87EDP-Energias de Portugal$733,674,86814
88Related Companies$714,675,5048
89Koch Industries$683,066,388510
90Caithness Energy$672,688,88830
91Dell Technologies$658,417,951185
92Wells Fargo$657,333,216542
93FedEx$647,035,546633
94Entergy$638,533,387235
95OCI N.V.$627,879,4065
96Eli Lilly$623,326,36879
97Chevron Phillips Chemical$619,839,44420
98Bedrock Detroit$618,000,0001
99Dominion Energy$615,436,08979
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Capitalism privatizes its profits and makes public its losses.

It's socialism for the rich, and "pick yourself up by your own bootstraps" capitalism for the rest of us. That's how our system works.


The top companies on your list are a result of socialized defense spending. I acknowledged that above. None of those companies are nationalized and run by the government. In fact you could argue those companies run the government which is the opposite of socialism.
 

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