When exactly does the Democrats' socialism kick in?

[dblack]

Socialism also allows markets provided they're under the government's control and economic plan. Capitalism can exist under socialism. It has to be well-regulated.

That is what the socialists tell us.

 

[Foolardi]

The hell with what old farts, brainwashed by Cold War capitalist propaganda (raised in the golden age of our nation's economy right after WW2) think. The younger generation wants their socialism and they're going to get it!

New Generation: 10
Old Brainwashed Farts: 0
America's Future: Wins!​

A non-collegiate Leftist guide
Democracy + Private Ownership = Capitalism
Democracy + Public Ownership = Socialism
Dictatorship + Private Ownership = Fascism
Dictatorship + Public ownership = Communism

 

[Foolardi]

That is what the socialists tell us.

That's funny.I never hear guys like Bernie Sanders or
Cenk Uygur talk politics without yelling.Like they're
always mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.
Take what.A chill-out pill maybe.

 

[dblack]

That's funny.I never hear guys like Bernie Sanders or
Cenk Uygur talk politics without yelling.Like they're
always mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.
Take what.A chill-out pill maybe.

What? Can you put spaces between your sentences?

 

[citygator]

LOL - no. That's not socialism. Socialism is state control over labor and resources - aka "the means of production". Go to a public library and check out a dictionary.


Sure there is - health care and health insurance are under the gun. Government price fixing, as proposed by Harris, is also socialism. Many prominent Dems self identify as socialists. There are plenty of posters on this board shilling for socialism (see below).

You shouldn’t be so dismissive when you are wrong.

The means of producing law enforcement is controlled by the government.

The means of producing education is controlled by the government.

 

[dblack]

You shouldn’t be so dismissive when you are wrong.

The means of producing law enforcement is controlled by the government.

The means of producing education is controlled by the government.

You shouldn't be so wrong when you're dismissive.

Trying to pretend that "We already have socialism, so we should have some more!" is disingenuous. As is most socialist propaganda.

 

[Foolardi]

Government subsidies for billionaires are socialized, including bailouts:

Rank	Parent	Subsidy Value	Number of Awards
1	Boeing	$15,496,865,703	958
2	Intel	$8,421,707,656	135
3	Ford Motor	$7,742,056,086	703
4	General Motors	$7,524,714,800	792
5	Micron Technology	$6,790,131,915	21
6	Amazon.com	$5,823,705,434	460
7	Alcoa	$5,727,691,764	134
8	Cheniere Energy	$5,617,152,523	43
9	Foxconn Technology Group (Hon Hai Precision Industry Company)	$4,820,110,112	74
10	Venture Global LNG	$4,338,702,441	8
11	Texas Instruments	$4,286,328,869	69
12	Volkswagen	$3,977,630,513	217
13	Sempra Energy	$3,828,022,782	51
14	NRG Energy	$3,415,751,518	266
15	NextEra Energy	$3,008,691,129	116
16	Sasol	$2,836,049,845	72
17	Tesla Inc.	$2,829,855,494	114
18	Stellantis	$2,795,436,436	213
19	Walt Disney	$2,543,219,673	265
20	Nucor	$2,538,761,123	176
21	Iberdrola	$2,380,558,984	110
22	Rivian Automotive Inc.	$2,364,054,012	7
23	Hyundai Motor	$2,349,743,470	18
24	Oracle	$2,272,418,288	96
25	Shell PLC	$2,211,676,001	132
26	Mubadala Investment Company	$2,124,035,097	62
27	Nike	$2,104,917,829	153
28	Meta Platforms Inc.	$2,098,261,272	82
29	Toyota	$2,071,010,689	239
30	Alphabet Inc.	$2,054,325,527	125
31	Brookfield Corporation	$1,979,408,388	288
32	Paramount Global	$1,974,249,897	342
33	Comcast	$1,927,402,844	405
34	Exxon Mobil	$1,917,119,478	241
35	Samsung Electronics	$1,891,136,597	41
36	Apple Inc.	$1,845,004,670	63
37	Nissan	$1,842,814,165	98
38	Berkshire Hathaway	$1,830,986,253	1,200
39	Summit Power	$1,783,593,414	6
40	JPMorgan Chase	$1,740,972,699	1,151
41	Energy Transfer	$1,736,836,843	175
42	Cleveland-Cliffs	$1,705,497,604	129
43	Southern Company	$1,694,958,172	45
44	General Electric	$1,645,135,367	958
45	Vornado Realty Trust	$1,623,857,336	33
46	Duke Energy	$1,580,421,869	86
47	Wolfspeed Inc.	$1,563,595,610	64
48	General Atomics	$1,510,875,891	112
49	IBM Corp.	$1,497,901,697	368
50	Lockheed Martin	$1,462,674,082	325
51	OGE Energy	$1,427,570,182	15
52	SCS Energy	$1,419,011,796	5
53	Corning Inc.	$1,391,603,359	401
54	Panasonic	$1,384,147,584	61
55	Microsoft	$1,366,243,159	113
56	Sagamore Development	$1,320,000,000	2
57	Northrop Grumman	$1,284,014,883	285
58	Vingroup	$1,254,000,000	1
59	Continental AG	$1,244,875,478	111
60	RTX Corporation	$1,193,950,954	797
61	CF Industries	$1,134,394,215	131
62	Valero Energy	$1,053,812,692	207
63	Dow Inc.	$1,049,354,213	640
64	AES Corp.	$1,039,510,135	136
65	Air Products & Chemicals	$1,025,557,482	88
66	Exelon	$986,892,877	98
67	Pyramid Companies	$973,565,278	93
68	SK Holdings	$960,550,283	8
69	SkyWest	$944,296,654	339
70	Centene	$916,607,054	60
71	Mazda Toyota Manufacturing, U.S.A., Inc.	$900,000,000	1
72	Apollo Global Management	$897,750,089	594
73	Delta Air Lines	$871,485,833	13
74	Jefferies Financial Group	$871,137,335	16
75	SK Hynix	$866,700,000	2
76	Bayer	$852,475,226	217
77	Honda	$849,832,301	93
78	Shin-Etsu Chemical	$828,683,936	106
79	Enterprise Products Partners	$826,988,371	89
80	SunEdison	$817,425,725	115
81	Goldman Sachs	$800,873,386	253
82	Bank of America	$798,426,128	956
83	E.ON	$786,865,473	40
84	Warner Bros. Discovery Inc.	$786,835,708	219
85	EDF-Electricite de France	$774,590,441	36
86	Triple Five Worldwide	$748,000,000	4
87	EDP-Energias de Portugal	$733,674,868	14
88	Related Companies	$714,675,504	8
89	Koch Industries	$683,066,388	510
90	Caithness Energy	$672,688,888	30
91	Dell Technologies	$658,417,951	185
92	Wells Fargo	$657,333,216	542
93	FedEx	$647,035,546	633
94	Entergy	$638,533,387	235
95	OCI N.V.	$627,879,406	5
96	Eli Lilly	$623,326,368	79
97	Chevron Phillips Chemical	$619,839,444	20
98	Bedrock Detroit	$618,000,000	1
99	Dominion Energy	$615,436,089	79

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Capitalism privatizes its profits and makes public its losses.​

It's socialism for the rich, and "pick yourself up by your own bootstraps" capitalism for the rest of us. That's how our system works.

​

Kinda neato to see where Boeing once the darling
of Airplane manufacturing is now on the ropes { literally }.
Because they went woke and gave up on The American
Dream.They decided to sell out to lying and cheating.
No way to maintain the consistency of the Great Henry Ford
pledge to insure every working American can afford a new car.
Which became reality.

 

[Foolardi]

You shouldn’t be so dismissive when you are wrong.

The means of producing law enforcement is controlled by the government.

The means of producing education is controlled by the government.

Are you confusing and or conflating the word Producing
with actual building.The Government was never allotted
let alone granted poetic license to build stuff.
The Government creates laws and enforces them for
betterment of Society.
Politicians don't build squat.They pop off their yappers to
get moola and then divvy out for their own self-interest.
Joe Biden is THE Most abusive of all Politicians.
He and Schumer,never worked a day in the Private
sector.And it shows.

 

[TruthNotBS]

A non-collegiate Leftist guide
Democracy + Private Ownership = Capitalism
Democracy + Public Ownership = Socialism
Dictatorship + Private Ownership = Fascism
Dictatorship + Public ownership = Communism

You're quite ignorant of socialism and communism. Socialism is the process that leads to communism, or it can also be defined as communism in its earliest form, as it transitions to full, high-communism. OK, so now that we got that out of the way, we need to correct your erroneous view on property rights within socialism and communism.

Private Property: All properties that are used to exploit human labor for a profit.
Personal Property: All properties for personal use. This can include one's house, a plot of land, a vehicle, computers, gun collection. etc.

In socialism, private properties can exist, preferably only within the consumer goods and services sector of the economy. These properties are regulated by the government and must follow the general economic plan set by the state. Any business that employs human labor, must abide by strict labor laws that protect workers and the general economic plan of the government.

High-Communism is defined as:

"A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes,[1] and ultimately money[6] and the state (or nation state).[7][8][9]

Communists often seek a voluntary state of self-governance but disagree on the means to this end. This reflects a distinction between a more libertarian socialist approach of communization, revolutionary spontaneity, and workers' self-management, and a more authoritarian vanguardist or communist party-driven approach through the development of a socialist state, followed by the withering away of the state.[10] As one of the main ideologies on the political spectrum, communist parties and movements have been described as radical left or far-left.[11][12][note 1]"

Source: Communism - Wikipedia

The final objective of high-communism is the withering away of the state, classes, and the need for money. None of that can occur without very advanced technology. So until technology allows the individual consumer to own the means of production and produce everything they consume,, they must own the means of production collectively through the socialist state.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Are you confusing and or conflating the word Producing
with actual building.The Government was never allotted
let alone granted poetic license to build stuff.
The Government creates laws and enforces them for
betterment of Society.
Politicians don't build squat.They pop off their yappers to
get moola and then divvy out for their own self-interest.
Joe Biden is THE Most abusive of all Politicians.
He and Schumer,never worked a day in the Private
sector.And it shows.

The rich don't build squat, they pop off their yappers to get moola and then divvy out for their own self-interest, while living off of other people's labor.

At least under the right system of government, politicians are accountable to the electorate and can be recalled, impeached, or voted out of office and replaced with someone else. The US Government can and does build plenty of stuff, so you're quite confused and don't know what you're talking about. The government is whatever we want it to be, including our constitution. We decide that as the American people, today, under our present circumstances, not those that existed over 200 years ago.