Are we too far gone?

[Valerie]

not more rainbows and unicorn promises.

promises like a wall could ever end drugs and crime in the USA ..............??

 

[BluesLegend]

I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.

Its not our fault Democrats have sided with millions of illegals from foreign countries who are killing thousands of Americans.

 

[Meister]

not more rainbows and unicorn promises.

promises like a wall could ever end drugs and crime in the USA ..............??

Could cut it down...it could be part of the solution.

 

[Pilot1]

promises like a wall could ever end drugs and crime in the USA ..............??

Nobody said a wall will end drugs and crime. Anything that can add to border security, however, can help the process to reduce illegal aliens from coming here and draining our resources as well as reduce the amount of potential criminals, terrorists, and drug dealers getting into the U.S. A wall is just ONE TOOL in the toolbox.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Your listening habits are part of your problem.

How so? I listen to both sides. It's amazing that when you listen to two sides of a topic how utterly divided the two parties are. Its simply amazing how you can take any topic, have left and right talk shows discuss it, and their opinions could not be more opposite.

It's almost like its staged that way. In my opinion, there are very few topics where two different ideologies cant at least find some common ground. Not the case these days. Listen to the right talk about a topic, then turn to a left leaning station and listen to them talk about the exact same topic, and have completely different views. It's almost as if it is scripted.

Again, this is just how "I" see things. Yes, I probably listen to more talk radio than I should, but it has allowed me to see how utterly divided we are. Its quite uncanny.

"It's amazing that when you listen to two sides of a topic how utterly divided the two parties are. Its simply amazing how you can take any topic, have left and right talk shows discuss it, and their opinions could not be more opposite."


My impression is that liberals will discuss the issue, the data and the facts (on any topic) while conservatives merely bash, mock and ridicule liberals for believing (what ever the topic is)

Actually, from my observances, it's the exact opposite.

Take any right wing talk show and listen, you will find them using the constitution as the measuring stick, they are all about personal liberty and adhering to the rule of law and constitution. Yes, they both the left, and poke fun at them, I will agree, but they generally are talking in regards to the issues and their policy and ideology.

Now turn to left leaning talk radio and you will find that they are outwardly harsh, name calling, and attacking the person themselves along with their policies. Especially on SiriusXM, the left talk shows are full of cursing and fbombs, and ridicule of the other side. The conservative shows are at least family friendly, you won't hear them using vulgarities to get their point across, and their bashing of the left is about their policies but not necessarily about the person themselves.

I've laid this out before. I challenge anyone to spend a day listening to wilkow and hannity, the spend a day listening to signorile and obiedalah, and come back and tell me what you find. I think you will find the same thing I just described above.

And no, i dont care if they use the foul language, I was merely pointing out how each of those talk hosts mentioned, had a different approach to their commentary.

There are other hosts like Hartman who dont resort to harshness of some of the other talk show hosts, but their viewpoints are every bit as opposite.

You're part of the problem.

"I'm right. Their wrong. End of story!"

Fuck off.

Uhhh... at no point in any of my post did I say anyone was right or wrong. I was merely pointing out how each sides talking heads conducted themselves on their respective talk shows.

You must think I'm as dumb as Wilkow thinks you are.

 

[Anathema]

Q: how many rights will the dead liberals have?

how much free speech will they have after you've killed them all?

do you seriously believe, after admitting you want to slaughter MILLIONS of people with different opinions, that you are NOT a fascist murderer?

I don’t believe in Freedom or Rights and never have. Nor have I ever claimed to believe in such idiocy.

I am a Conservative Authoritarian. I make no bones about that. There’s no to wrong with people dying so long as it’s the right people dying.

 

[Jarlaxle]

^ "truly conservative" anathema endorses husbands physically punishing their wives.

He's not conservative. He is PSYCHOTIC.

 

[Crepitus]

I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.

Not even close, in another few presidential cycles the aging RWNJs will be mostly gone and things will level out.

--------------------------------------------------- Crep might be correct . After we 'OLD Americans are gone there will be no more Americans in any great number and you millenials , trannies , hip hoppers , dopers and druggies will be MORE free to really slide into the Gutter . Thanks for your post number 6 Crep .

You really have an unrealistic view of folks younger than yourself

-------------------------------------------- yeah , i see the millenials arguing for ' guilty till proven innocent' as one big example , arguing to be 'trannies' , arguing for gun control , arguing to being dopers , arguing for unfettered immigration of third worlders and not knowing what sex they are . Yeah , those millenials are sure smart and will be smarter when old guy Daddy is gone Crep .

Wow dude, you need to get outta the rwnj zone for a few minutes and get some air.

 

[Jarlaxle]

^ "truly conservative" anathema endorses husbands physically punishing their wives.

Realize that Fundamentalist Islam is closer to True Conservatism than mainline Christianity.

About $1000 to fly from Logan to Riyadh.

BOS to RUH Flights | Expedia

 

[anynameyouwish]

All that is needed is for people of all political stripes to insist that facts and evidence be adhered to when making policy decisions.

sure

unfortunately we do not agree on what the facts are!

apparently some people embrace ALTERNATIVE facts.

 

[Jarlaxle]

^ "truly conservative" anathema endorses husbands physically punishing their wives.

Realize that Fundamentalist Islam is closer to True Conservatism than nainline Christianity.

American conservatism means conserving our nation's founding constitutional principles.

deliberately separating ourselves from uber religious authoritarianism was our catalyst in creating a constitutional republic.

face it, your ideals are more in line with the taliban.

He's sort of a mix of Stalin and Torquemada, with a dash of Pee Wee Herman.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

I debated whether or not to post on this thread. And decided ......you listen to Glen Beck too much.

He's Back! Glenn Beck Says Obama Will Throw Opponents in Internment Camps
We are Germany 1930. You can deny it all you want,” he said. “But the socialist revolution is here.”

Actually, I dont listen to beck much anymore. When I listen to conservative radio, I may tune in to beck, but I actually prefer his show now when he is not there, and pat and stu run the show.

Mostly I listen to wilkow on the right, and signorile and obiedalah on the left.

This is just the way I'm feeling these days. It's just hard for me to ignore. You see the fighting here on usmb, and other forums and the stark division in our government. Nobody is getting along, and nobody wants to get along.

We cant continue on this path. It will destroy us in the end.

Let me help you feel better. What is occurring in Washington and on this forum is not representative of the population in general. And that is especially true regarding this forum. Check out the Nielson ratings and you’ll find that most people are watching sports, comedies, and dramas on TV. They aren’t watching politics. The majority of people pay little attention to politics, and certainly not to the extent of the folks on this forum. I have friends on both ends and all along the political spectrum. We all get along just fine.

 

[Crepitus]

Not even close, in another few presidential cycles the aging RWNJs will be mostly gone and things will level out.

What you consider RWNJ's are people that value, and respect the Constitution as written. If they do go away, and don't get replaced, the U.S. won't be a country that people want to come to anymore, legally, nor illegally. If it is turned into a Liberal/Progressive Utopia it will be just another socialist, third world HELL HOLE.

Fortunately, many younger people are reevaluating their Politically Correct Liberalism as they enter the work force, see their paycheck eaten by taxes, and want a strong economic future, not more rainbows and unicorn Democrat promises.

No they aren't and no they don't. RWNJs only like the second amendment, the rest of the Constitution means nothing to them, particularly the 1st, 14th, and 15th amendments. Most of them haven't even read the relevant parts anyway.

When they are gone the world will be a better place.

 

[Pilot1]

No they aren't and no they don't. RWNJs only like the second amendment, the rest of the Constitution means nothing to them, particularly the 1st, 14th, and 15th amendments. Most of them haven't even read the relevant parts anyway.

When they are gone the world will be a better place.

No, you are totally WRONG. We respect the entire document AS WRITTEN and not used for ridiculous Social Engineering. There will always be conservatives in America. People, especially young people are now REJECTING YOUR SOCIALIST UTOPIA.

 

[Crepitus]

No they aren't and no they don't. RWNJs only like the second amendment, the rest of the Constitution means nothing to them, particularly the 1st, 14th, and 15th amendments. Most of them haven't even read the relevant parts anyway.

When they are gone the world will be a better place.

No, you are totally WRONG. We respect the entire document AS WRITTEN and not used for ridiculous Social Engineering. There will always be conservatives in America. People, especially young people are now REJECTING YOUR SOCIALIST UTOPIA.

No, you don't. Just read some of the threads in the forum.

And nobody but RWNJ propagandists can say that "socialist Utopia" bullshit with a straight face.

Time to come up for air my brainwashed friend.

 

[anynameyouwish]

No they aren't and no they don't. RWNJs only like the second amendment, the rest of the Constitution means nothing to them, particularly the 1st, 14th, and 15th amendments. Most of them haven't even read the relevant parts anyway.

When they are gone the world will be a better place.

No, you are totally WRONG. We respect the entire document AS WRITTEN and not used for ridiculous Social Engineering. There will always be conservatives in America. People, especially young people are now REJECTING YOUR SOCIALIST UTOPIA.

"We respect the entire document AS WRITTEN and not used for ridiculous Social Engineering."


really?

do you support legalizing pot?
allowing gays equal rights?
allowing all religions (and non-religion) equal rights and opportunities?

 

[pismoe]

I think we are. This country is on a downward slide, and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.

The division is so bad now, I don't think we will ever come together again. Perhaps we need to stop worrying about changing the country and start managing the fall.

We are nearly to the point of civil war. All it will take is the right catalyst to start.

This country is not like it was 10 years ago. Obama's pledge to radically transform the country did indeed happen, perhaps not in the way he envisioned, but we are changed.

We are vicious, divided, hate filled people. I just think this country is done. Her best days gone.

They say history repeats itself, and most empires don't last. I think our empire has run its course. It's only a matter if time before we destroy ourselves from within, or another country invades and takes us over.

Not even close, in another few presidential cycles the aging RWNJs will be mostly gone and things will level out.

--------------------------------------------------- Crep might be correct . After we 'OLD Americans are gone there will be no more Americans in any great number and you millenials , trannies , hip hoppers , dopers and druggies will be MORE free to really slide into the Gutter . Thanks for your post number 6 Crep .

You really have an unrealistic view of folks younger than yourself

-------------------------------------------- yeah , i see the millenials arguing for ' guilty till proven innocent' as one big example , arguing to be 'trannies' , arguing for gun control , arguing to being dopers , arguing for unfettered immigration of third worlders and not knowing what sex they are . Yeah , those millenials are sure smart and will be smarter when old guy Daddy is gone Crep .

Wow dude, you need to get outta the rwnj zone for a few minutes and get some air.

---------------------------------------------- and to continue with one or 2 other points . Some of the youngers . millenials support getting rid of 'innocent till proven guilty ' , see the 'judge kavanaugh' hearings or what ever they were and many college going millenials want to get rid of gun RIGHTS and Free speech and they don't even know if they are boys or girls . I'm just glad that they don't have FREE Healthcare as these apparently unhealthy millenials seem to be annoyed that they don't have FREE Healthcare Crep.

 

[Pilot1]

"We respect the entire document AS WRITTEN and not used for ridiculous Social Engineering."


really?

do you support legalizing pot?
allowing gays equal rights?
allowing all religions (and non-religion) equal rights and opportunities?

I support legalizing ALL DRUGS.

I support gays doing whatever they want within the law.

I am not a religious person so I don't care what religious people do, or don't do.

 

[anynameyouwish]

"We respect the entire document AS WRITTEN and not used for ridiculous Social Engineering."


really?

do you support legalizing pot?
allowing gays equal rights?
allowing all religions (and non-religion) equal rights and opportunities?

I support legalizing ALL DRUGS.

I support gays doing whatever they want within the law.

I am not a religious person so I don't care what religious people do, or don't do.

Perhaps

But LOTS of conservatives do NOT!

The fact that I can read (on this message board EVERY DAY) attacks on gays by conservatives is a pretty good indication that MOST conservatives would create LAWS against homosexuals first chance they get.

The people still supporting CRIMINALIZING pot smokers are MOSTLY conservatives.

And there are many conservatives who voice their belief that America IS a "christian nation" and the bible should be the basis of law in the USA.

Pence believes that
Roy Moore believes that
Rush limbaugh believes that
Hannity believes that
Oreilly believes that
Beck believes that


Do you care about THAT?

 

[Pilot1]

I don't believe in telling other people how to live their lives as long as they are law abiding.