Attempted British mass shooter sentenced for planning mass shooting...in Britain...

[2aguy]

Yep.....this 19 year old got bombs and a glock 19 and 94 rounds of 9mm ammo on the dark web in Britain in order to murder people at the University he used to attend..........

I guess their gun control laws stopped him...right? Or was it pure, dumb luck.....?

Newcastle teenager Liam Lyburd found guilty of planning college massacre

teenager has been convicted of planning a massacre at his former college after stockpiling pipe bombs, a semi-automatic pistol and 94 hollow-point expanding bullets.
Liam Lyburd, 19, from Newcastle upon Tyne, followed online instructions to build the bombs, and bought the 9mm Glock handgun and bullets from a marketplace on the darknet.
Police found the weapons when they raided his home in November. The prosecution claimed he had planned to carry out a massacre at Newcastle College, a large further education institution with more than 18,000 students.
Lyburd studied there for about a month in September 2012. Police began investigating after reports of comments he posted online in which he discussed plans to massacre students. He had praised US high school shooters and the Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Breivik.


Yep.....pure, dumb luck....had this kid not posted his plans before the attack...there would have been a mass shooting in Britain...that was not stopped by their gun confiscation or their extreme gun control laws..........

19 years old, and he still got a pistol through their gun control laws.......

 

[JakeStarkey]

once again your fallacy of "if X does not stop Y 100% of the time, then it is a failure."

No need for murder laws then.

 

[2aguy]

The next guy won't post on the internet before he shoots people.........it is coming to Britain...and they won't have armed citizens to stop it......

 

[JakeStarkey]

The next guy won't post on the internet before he shoots people.........it is coming to Britain...and they won't have armed citizens to stop it......

How many mass shootings have been prevented here by Rambos such as yourself? One, two, many, lots?

 

[Silent Warrior]

The next guy won't post on the internet before he shoots people.........it is coming to Britain...and they won't have armed citizens to stop it......

How many mass shootings have been prevented here by Rambos such as yourself? One, two, many, lots?

Actually, legal gun owners stop criminal shootings quite frequently. By trying to say not enough mass shootings have been stopped by legal owners, you are going against the argument you are trying to make. If gun control is a success even if it doesn't stop all gun crime, then legal gun ownership is a success even if it doesn't stop all criminal shootings. Personally I would rather have a chance to defend myself and my family than simply have to say “oh well, we're just part of the statistic that all killings can't be stopped.” To steal an idea from the left, gun ownership should be by choice. You are pro-choice aren't you.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not at all, SW. If he is going to claim that having a CCW is going to stop a mass shooting, I want to know how many. That is a logical extension of my argument.

 

[2aguy]

The next guy won't post on the internet before he shoots people.........it is coming to Britain...and they won't have armed citizens to stop it......

How many mass shootings have been prevented here by Rambos such as yourself? One, two, many, lots?

Here is a start......try thearmedcitizen....they list crimes stopped by concealed carriers.....

And here are 3........


Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)


vs.


Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)
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No guns: 15 dead

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)


Parishioners with guns: 2 dead

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)


Temple massacre has some Sikhs mulling gun ownership

The president of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin had only a butter knife on hand, which he used to fight the gunman. He was killed, but his heroic actions were credited for slowing the shooter. Guns were not allowed in the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin.

“No guns [were] allowed in the temple,” Kulbir Singh, an attendee of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, told FoxNews.com. “Everyone knows that it’s not allowed, anywhere in the temple.”​

 

[2aguy]

The next guy won't post on the internet before he shoots people.........it is coming to Britain...and they won't have armed citizens to stop it......

How many mass shootings have been prevented here by Rambos such as yourself? One, two, many, lots?

And some more...

12 Times Mass Shootings Were Stopped by Good Guys With Guns

And of course the biggest problem....anti-gun nuts like yourself have made almost all public places gun free zones....then mass shooters go to the gun free zone and the normal gun owners, who would be there with a gun to stop the mass shooting, are disarmed by your gun free zone....

then you guys say...see...see....it doesn't happen that often.....

How about we get rid of all the gun free zones and see what happens.....Since mass shooters who actually choose their locations when they don't have an emotional attachment to them, choose gun free zones......if there were no gun free zones, these nuts wouldn't start shooting in them......

Santa Barbara
Sandy Hook
South Carolina Church shooting
Colorado theater shooting
The kid caught in Minnesota before he committed his mass shooting
Fort Hood


We have notes from or testimony from the shooters from those listed above...they chose their targets because they were gun free zones...and the last kid was going to make his own gun free zone by starting a fire to draw police away from the school, and then he planned on shooting the police resource officer first, because he was the only one on campus with a gun........

Gun free zones get people murdered.........

 

[JakeStarkey]

Thank you. Let's make sure the right good guys are permitted guns. ControverisalTimes is not a qualified source as you well know.