Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill

[toomuchtime_]

no actually I live in the real world and don't live in fantasy land where one thinks if they stop funding abortions all the problems are going to go away.
And like I said before if you guys can have your viagra, we get our abortions.

Getting an erection up is not the moral equivalent of putting a child down.

never said it was! But it isn't a drug you need to stay alive, so why should my tax dollars pay for some guy to get an erection?

Health insurance covers lots of things that are not necessary to keep you alive, acne, arthritis, etc. What you want is for health insurance to cover killing a child.

 

[Anguille]

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

To the drugstore to buy a box of condoms?

Leave that to the men. Women do all the rest.

 

[Anguille]

Getting an erection up is not the moral equivalent of putting a child down.

It's the first step leading to it.

 

[driveby]

The bill didn't fund abortions to start with.

What was the Stupak amendment again ? ......

A bill to ban people from buying coverage with their own money.

Stupak Amendment to HR 3962 Rev 108

Section 265 Limitation on abortion funding.



You:

 

[saveliberty]

Oh he can try. Sounds like a sure fire way of killing the entire bill. It is also another way to challenge it Constitutionally. Pretty much a lose-lose scenario.

 

[mudwhistle]

Just another shell game.

I don't believe a thing these cocksuckers put out.

More and more people are coming to the same conclusion.

 

[asaratis]

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

To the drugstore to buy a box of condoms?

because that always happens! Girls who want abortions will do whatever it takes in most cases to have one.
And when federally funded health care programs stopp funding viagra prescriptions, you guys can start talking about stopping the funding of abortions.

Federal funds should not be available for chemically induced stiffening. You want happy-man blue pills, you pay. The government should give away condoms, foams, vasectomies, castrations, tubal knots and instructions for avoiding STDs. Women should pay for chemicals for men for it is they that will receive another trip on the rocket ship.

White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod suggested Sunday that President Obama will intervene to make sure a controversial amendment restricting federal funding for abortion coverage is stripped from final health care reform legislation.

In doing so, the president would be heeding the call of abortion rights supporters like Planned Parenthood that have called the White House their "strongest weapon" in keeping such restrictions out of the bill.

The abortion amendment was tacked on to the House health care bill and was a key factor in securing the votes of moderate Democrats before the bill was approved by a narrow margin last weekend. The amendment, authored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., went beyond preventing the proposed government-run plan from covering abortion to restrict federal subsidies from going toward private plans that offer abortion coverage.

Axelrod said in an interview Sunday that the amendment changes the "status quo," something the president cannot abide.

"The president has said repeatedly, and he said in his speech to Congress, that he doesn't believe that this bill should change the status quo as it relates to the issue of abortion," Axelrod said. "This shouldn't be a debate about abortion. And he's going to work with Senate and the House to try and ensure that at the end of the day, the status quo is not changed ... I believe that there are discussions ongoing to how to adjust it accordingly."

Axelrod said the president believes that issue, as well as the ongoing dispute over what kind of government-run insurance plan, if any, should be included in the overhaul, "can and will be worked through before it reaches his desk."

Axelrod spoke on CNN's "State of the Union."









Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill - FOXNews.com









"YOU LIE" Joe Wilson.

Makes me thankful for the difference between a liberal and a Democrat.

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

To her family?

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

I think her point was that Obama lied in his primetime HC speech, not that she was for or against abortion. If he's for abortion funding in this bill, come out and say it. Don't demonize Republicans and call them liars when he actually supports it ..........

The government lies to achieve its goals.

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

To the drugstore to buy a box of condoms?

Her family should give her condoms.

To the drugstore to buy a box of condoms?

because that always happens! Girls who want abortions will do whatever it takes in most cases to have one.
And when federally funded health care programs stopp funding viagra prescriptions, you guys can start talking about stopping the funding of abortions.

Classic Strawman argument.

I tried to +rep you for that, but my previous -rep of you prevents me...at this time. Will someone near my rep caliber shoot Zander a pos, please?

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

I think her point was that Obama lied in his primetime HC speech, not that she was for or against abortion. If he's for abortion funding in this bill, come out and say it. Don't demonize Republicans and call them liars when he actually supports it ..........

The bill didn't fund abortions to start with.

Correct. It subsidized programs that funded abortions.

no actually I live in the real world and don't live in fantasy land where one thinks if they stop funding abortions all the problems are going to go away.
And like I said before if you guys can have your viagra, we get our abortions.

Getting an erection up is not the moral equivalent of putting a child down.

never said it was! But it isn't a drug you need to stay alive, so why should my tax dollars pay for some guy to get an erection?

They shouldn't. You should.

 

[WillowTree]

no actually I live in the real world and don't live in fantasy land where one thinks if they stop funding abortions all the problems are going to go away.
And like I said before if you guys can have your viagra, we get our abortions.

That is still a logical fallacy......And the issue will sink Obamacare. Are you willing to lose over it?

so you are saying it is alright for a man to get his viagra paid for? But funding an abortion so a women doesn't have a back alley abortion which can cause death is not alright?

what's wrong with back alley abortions? you still get a dead baby don't you?

 

[mudwhistle]

That is still a logical fallacy......And the issue will sink Obamacare. Are you willing to lose over it?

so you are saying it is alright for a man to get his viagra paid for? But funding an abortion so a women doesn't have a back alley abortion which can cause death is not alright?

what's wrong with back alley abortions? you still get a dead baby don't you?

As long as it's taxpayer funded I don't think the libs care what kind of abortion it is.

 

[asaratis]

so you are saying it is alright for a man to get his viagra paid for? But funding an abortion so a women doesn't have a back alley abortion which can cause death is not alright?

what's wrong with back alley abortions? you still get a dead baby don't you?

As long as it's taxpayer funded I don't think the libs care what kind of abortion it is.

How else can they control all of our money?

 

[PoliticalChic]

White House Senior Adviser David Axelrod suggested Sunday that President Obama will intervene to make sure a controversial amendment restricting federal funding for abortion coverage is stripped from final health care reform legislation.

In doing so, the president would be heeding the call of abortion rights supporters like Planned Parenthood that have called the White House their "strongest weapon" in keeping such restrictions out of the bill.

The abortion amendment was tacked on to the House health care bill and was a key factor in securing the votes of moderate Democrats before the bill was approved by a narrow margin last weekend. The amendment, authored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., went beyond preventing the proposed government-run plan from covering abortion to restrict federal subsidies from going toward private plans that offer abortion coverage.

Axelrod said in an interview Sunday that the amendment changes the "status quo," something the president cannot abide.

"The president has said repeatedly, and he said in his speech to Congress, that he doesn't believe that this bill should change the status quo as it relates to the issue of abortion," Axelrod said. "This shouldn't be a debate about abortion. And he's going to work with Senate and the House to try and ensure that at the end of the day, the status quo is not changed ... I believe that there are discussions ongoing to how to adjust it accordingly."

Axelrod said the president believes that issue, as well as the ongoing dispute over what kind of government-run insurance plan, if any, should be included in the overhaul, "can and will be worked through before it reaches his desk."

Axelrod spoke on CNN's "State of the Union."



Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill - FOXNews.com









"YOU LIE" Joe Wilson.

How about this: the administration was unprepared (the hallmark of this bunch) for the number of representatives who signed onto the Stupak Amendment, so he is preparing his supporters for the failure of the bill and preparing Representative Stupak as the 'wicker man,' burned alive as the villain.

 

[PoliticalChic]

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

I think her point was that Obama lied in his primetime HC speech, not that she was for or against abortion. If he's for abortion funding in this bill, come out and say it. Don't demonize Republicans and call them liars when he actually supports it ..........

He's doing the 'ol Democrat two-step: parsing his words.

He originally said, I believe, that no Tax dollars would be used for abortion, as he expected the new bill to provide Insurance dollars for same.

 

[xotoxi]

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

To the drugstore to buy a box of condoms?

because that always happens! Girls who want abortions will do whatever it takes in most cases to have one.
And when federally funded health care programs stopp funding viagra prescriptions, you guys can start talking about stopping the funding of abortions.

They don't pay for viagra...or at least Medicare prescription plans don't.

 

[PoliticalChic]

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

I think her point was that Obama lied in his primetime HC speech, not that she was for or against abortion. If he's for abortion funding in this bill, come out and say it. Don't demonize Republicans and call them liars when he actually supports it ..........

The bill didn't fund abortions to start with.

Only as much as it funded appendectomy.

Riddle me this: If you were correct, why the turmoil over the Stupak Amendment?

 

[PoliticalChic]

good for him! If a women can't afford to get an abortion from a place like planned parenthood just think about where she will go instead.

I think her point was that Obama lied in his primetime HC speech, not that she was for or against abortion. If he's for abortion funding in this bill, come out and say it. Don't demonize Republicans and call them liars when he actually supports it ..........

We didn't have to wait for Obama to serve up this knife in the back to moderate House Dems to know the lies poured from his mouth like shit from a cow's ass in his speech before the joint session of Congress, before the American people and before the whole world. Both of his examples of abuses by insurance companies were blatant lies and his example of how the lack of competition among health insurers led to one insurance company gaining over 90% of the Alabama market was entirely a work of fiction. No one who honestly believes in the cause he is promoting has to make up such outrageous lies to support it.

Scott Harrington: Fact-Checking the President on Health Insurance - WSJ.com

Nice.

I think the seminal lie (pun unintended in this thread) is that the healthcare bill was necessary in place first.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The bill didn't fund abortions to start with.

What was the Stupak amendment again ? ......

A bill to ban people from buying coverage with their own money.

It would be helpful, and make you look smarter if you knew something about the topic on which you were posting.

Stupak Amendment:
"Reporting from Washington - In a last-minute compromise seeking to secure a majority vote for a healthcare overhaul, House Democratic leaders agreed Saturday to essentially exclude abortion coverage from their bill except for insurance policies paid exclusively with private money."
House votes for ban on abortion subsidies -- latimes.com

So, it seems you have the concept completely reversed.

Good work.

 

[driveby]

What was the Stupak amendment again ? ......

A bill to ban people from buying coverage with their own money.

It would be helpful, and make you look smarter if you knew something about the topic on which you were posting.

Stupak Amendment:
"Reporting from Washington - In a last-minute compromise seeking to secure a majority vote for a healthcare overhaul, House Democratic leaders agreed Saturday to essentially exclude abortion coverage from their bill except for insurance policies paid exclusively with private money."
House votes for ban on abortion subsidies -- latimes.com

So, it seems you have the concept completely reversed.

Good work.

He's in hiding, you should know by now libtards don't admit when they're wrong ......

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Getting an erection up is not the moral equivalent of putting a child down.

It's the first step leading to it.

So is spreading your legs.

 

[PoliticalChic]

A bill to ban people from buying coverage with their own money.

It would be helpful, and make you look smarter if you knew something about the topic on which you were posting.

Stupak Amendment:
"Reporting from Washington - In a last-minute compromise seeking to secure a majority vote for a healthcare overhaul, House Democratic leaders agreed Saturday to essentially exclude abortion coverage from their bill except for insurance policies paid exclusively with private money."
House votes for ban on abortion subsidies -- latimes.com

So, it seems you have the concept completely reversed.

Good work.

He's in hiding, you should know by now libtards don't admit when they're wrong ......

Would that be covered under Rule #5d or 5f of the Liberal Libretto?

5. If you find yourself in a debating ‘box,’ where the true answer will sink a liberal talking point, either
a. Claim that the question is ‘above my pay grade.’
b. Look astounded, and claim that the questioner is a racist, sexist or homophobe. Or fascist, or, always good, nazi.
c. Make up any term as opprobrium, as long as it sounds ominous.
d. Learn phrases such as ‘it’s time to move on,” or ‘let’s put this behind us.”
e. This was started by a [conservative, republican, earlier] administration.
f. If all else fails, shrug your shoulders and say “I’m only interested in discourse.”


I want to make sure my pal Polky gets full credit!

 

[mudwhistle]

Good point.