Barack missed a putt on 15

[deltex1]

isis has not used wmds.

Pentagon officials believe ISIS used chemical weapons against Kurds in Iraq

 

[SassyIrishLass]

isis has not used wmds.

Pentagon officials believe ISIS used chemical weapons against Kurds in Iraq

The Kurds can't catch a break

 

[deltex1]

Because things have happened before, we have no responsibility to prevent them from happening again. At least not while the magic neeeeeeeeeeegro is still around.

 

[ogibillm]

isis has not used wmds.

Pentagon officials believe ISIS used chemical weapons against Kurds in Iraq

i think it's a stretch to cal those shells wmds

how massive is the destruction from one?

 

[Darkwind]

A correction remains badly overdue. I'd love to see a total of about -18%.

The stock market is not the economy. The economy is stumbling along, but it doesn't reflect this drop.

.

Well, I wasn't going to worry about it until it hit 12% for the year......

But I'm starting to get nervous now.....Its looking less like an overdue correction and more like a fundamental crack in the braces...The feds withdrawing that money they were feeding the market has a predictable lag......that lag has now caught up...

 

[Darkwind]

and what president never had problems to deal with?

Most presidents don't create the problems.

Obama is still dealing with the massive problems Bush jr caused, both foreign and domestic.

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

 

[Darkwind]

LOL PaintByNumbers trying to look all knowledgeable and shit

The market is a casino only for those who don't know what they're doing.
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The market is a casino, and even more rigged, always. That is by design. It's a way to raise capital, not a way for the average dummy to get rich, and they rarely do. And when the market crashes, and it always will, that is entirely expected. Faith keeps the game alive, until it no longer can, and then it all blows away we start all over again.

Most people are smart enough to know you don't "get rich". It's a place where smart people carefully build for a retirement, even with "crashes" as part of the deal.

You've really bought into the silliness. Not my problem.
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As we've seen, time and again, people can't retire when the market crashes and it does that time and again, which is why money you can't afford to lose, all of it, should never be in the market, especially retirement funds. If you have so much as a dime in there you actually need, you are fucking yourself, it's only a matter of time.

Hint for you kids, after watching the market for several decades, never confuse brains with a bull market, and you all do. Got that from an old broker I worked for long ago. He knew the rules, you don't. What you know is the con, and you are the mark...

Anyone who has too high a percentage of their retirement account near retirement doesn't know what they're doing. More than 20% or 30% in equities near retirement is plenty.

And I'm a CFP, ChFC, CLU. Partner in a multi-location Tax/Law/Financial Planning firm, sorry.

Play this ignorant game with someone else, thanks. It doesn't work with me.
.

Pay no attention to the wannabe human.....

If this continues another 5%, then I think it will be time to make a killing by buying heavily......the floor is closer than most think..

 

[ogibillm]

and what president never had problems to deal with?

Most presidents don't create the problems.

Obama is still dealing with the massive problems Bush jr caused, both foreign and domestic.

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

seriously?

 

[Darkwind]

and what president never had problems to deal with?

Most presidents don't create the problems.

Obama is still dealing with the massive problems Bush jr caused, both foreign and domestic.

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

seriously?

Yep..

 

[ogibillm]

and what president never had problems to deal with?

Most presidents don't create the problems.

Obama is still dealing with the massive problems Bush jr caused, both foreign and domestic.

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

seriously?

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

 

[Darkwind]

Most presidents don't create the problems.

Obama is still dealing with the massive problems Bush jr caused, both foreign and domestic.

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

seriously?

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

 

[ogibillm]

Obama is still dealing with the massive problems Bush jr caused, both foreign and domestic.

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

seriously?

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

so again, he isn't still dealing with past problems, asall presidents do, everything wrong in the world today is his fault? you generously didnt blame him for seven months, but now it's all obama's doing?

 

[Darkwind]

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

seriously?

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

so again, he isn't still dealing with past problems, asall presidents do, everything wrong in the world today is his fault? you generously didnt blame him for seven months, but now it's all obama's doing?

I was specific.

All presidents deal with problems that plague us for generations......But it is always the fault of politicians and governments that we have to deal with them for generations.

The middle east wasn't a problem for nearly 25 years after Blackjack Pershing dealt with it...

Today, he'd be tried and hung for using those tactics.....even though they worked very effectively.

The point I'm trying to make is that Obama isn't still dealing with Bushes problems...because many of today's problems ARE his problems.

Remember, he wanted the job an campaigned on the promise of knowing how to fix them. If they're not fixed, its his fault.

 

[ogibillm]

seriously?

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

so again, he isn't still dealing with past problems, asall presidents do, everything wrong in the world today is his fault? you generously didnt blame him for seven months, but now it's all obama's doing?

I was specific.

All presidents deal with problems that plague us for generations......But it is always the fault of politicians and governments that we have to deal with them for generations.

The middle east wasn't a problem for nearly 25 years after Blackjack Pershing dealt with it...

Today, he'd be tried and hung for using those tactics.....even though they worked very effectively.

The point I'm trying to make is that Obama isn't still dealing with Bushes problems...because many of today's problems ARE his problems.

Remember, he wanted the job an campaigned on the promise of knowing how to fix them. If they're not fixed, its his fault.

gee, you said that all problems were 'of his making'
singing a different tune now. and that's fine, it's a much more reasonable melody.

 

[Darkwind]

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

so again, he isn't still dealing with past problems, asall presidents do, everything wrong in the world today is his fault? you generously didnt blame him for seven months, but now it's all obama's doing?

I was specific.

All presidents deal with problems that plague us for generations......But it is always the fault of politicians and governments that we have to deal with them for generations.

The middle east wasn't a problem for nearly 25 years after Blackjack Pershing dealt with it...

Today, he'd be tried and hung for using those tactics.....even though they worked very effectively.

The point I'm trying to make is that Obama isn't still dealing with Bushes problems...because many of today's problems ARE his problems.

Remember, he wanted the job an campaigned on the promise of knowing how to fix them. If they're not fixed, its his fault.

gee, you said that all problems were 'of his making'
singing a different tune now. and that's fine, it's a much more reasonable melody.

No I didn't. I said:

No he isn't. All the problems today are his in the making for the past six years.

Read it again, very carefully....

The meaning is very clear.....

All of the issues we face TODAY are of his making.....Including Iran and Iraq....because the issues with them today did NOT exist during Bushes administration.

Please do NOT go to generalities. I am specifically speaking about the crap with Iraq that wasn't happening when Bush was President and warned about...and I am talking about Iran's leading Obama around by the nose....

and of course, todays economic problems are wholly his fault now. That is because he said he had the answer to fix it.....and he had a fully Democrat congress for years to do so......

He failed. It becomes his fault....even though I don't believe economies are the responsibility of Presidents.

 

[Mac1958]

A correction remains badly overdue. I'd love to see a total of about -18%.

The stock market is not the economy. The economy is stumbling along, but it doesn't reflect this drop.

.

Well, I wasn't going to worry about it until it hit 12% for the year......

But I'm starting to get nervous now.....Its looking less like an overdue correction and more like a fundamental crack in the braces...The feds withdrawing that money they were feeding the market has a predictable lag......that lag has now caught up...

It's just the right combination of things: Overdue for a correction, commodity crash, China devaluing the Yuan. We'll jump if we get down to -10% or -12%, and it will be worth it even if it drops further. Getting ready to short bonds, too...
.

 

[Mac1958]

The market is a casino only for those who don't know what they're doing.
.

The market is a casino, and even more rigged, always. That is by design. It's a way to raise capital, not a way for the average dummy to get rich, and they rarely do. And when the market crashes, and it always will, that is entirely expected. Faith keeps the game alive, until it no longer can, and then it all blows away we start all over again.

Most people are smart enough to know you don't "get rich". It's a place where smart people carefully build for a retirement, even with "crashes" as part of the deal.

You've really bought into the silliness. Not my problem.
.

As we've seen, time and again, people can't retire when the market crashes and it does that time and again, which is why money you can't afford to lose, all of it, should never be in the market, especially retirement funds. If you have so much as a dime in there you actually need, you are fucking yourself, it's only a matter of time.

Hint for you kids, after watching the market for several decades, never confuse brains with a bull market, and you all do. Got that from an old broker I worked for long ago. He knew the rules, you don't. What you know is the con, and you are the mark...

Anyone who has too high a percentage of their retirement account near retirement doesn't know what they're doing. More than 20% or 30% in equities near retirement is plenty.

And I'm a CFP, ChFC, CLU. Partner in a multi-location Tax/Law/Financial Planning firm, sorry.

Play this ignorant game with someone else, thanks. It doesn't work with me.
.

Pay no attention to the wannabe human.....

If this continues another 5%, then I think it will be time to make a killing by buying heavily......the floor is closer than most think..

Yeah, there's a foundation here. Let it drop a bit more...
.

 

[Moonglow]

seriously?

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

so again, he isn't still dealing with past problems, asall presidents do, everything wrong in the world today is his fault? you generously didnt blame him for seven months, but now it's all obama's doing?

I was specific.

All presidents deal with problems that plague us for generations......But it is always the fault of politicians and governments that we have to deal with them for generations.

The middle east wasn't a problem for nearly 25 years after Blackjack Pershing dealt with it...

Today, he'd be tried and hung for using those tactics.....even though they worked very effectively.

The point I'm trying to make is that Obama isn't still dealing with Bushes problems...because many of today's problems ARE his problems.

Remember, he wanted the job an campaigned on the promise of knowing how to fix them. If they're not fixed, its his fault.

You are aware that Blackjack Pershing had nothing to do with the Middle East?

 

[Darkwind]

A correction remains badly overdue. I'd love to see a total of about -18%.

The stock market is not the economy. The economy is stumbling along, but it doesn't reflect this drop.

.

Well, I wasn't going to worry about it until it hit 12% for the year......

But I'm starting to get nervous now.....Its looking less like an overdue correction and more like a fundamental crack in the braces...The feds withdrawing that money they were feeding the market has a predictable lag......that lag has now caught up...

It's just the right combination of things: Overdue for a correction, commodity crash, China devaluing the Yuan. We'll jump if we get down to -10% or -12%, and it will be worth it even if it drops further. Getting ready to short bonds, too...
.

I have no bonds invested....figured they weren't gaining Me anything....

Right now, even with the 530 point drop, we are at 8% from Jan 2

 

[Darkwind]

Yep..

so in your mind prior to jan 09 the middle east was perfect, north and south korea were buddies, only legal immigrants came to the us, and the economy was in tip top shape?

09?

Didn't I say the last six years?

Obama is in his seventh year....that gives him a one year grace period.....

Much more than you clowns gave Bush who had to deal with 9/11.....

Obama used the same policies as Bush in his first year....but every problem after that is all his.

so again, he isn't still dealing with past problems, asall presidents do, everything wrong in the world today is his fault? you generously didnt blame him for seven months, but now it's all obama's doing?

I was specific.

All presidents deal with problems that plague us for generations......But it is always the fault of politicians and governments that we have to deal with them for generations.

The middle east wasn't a problem for nearly 25 years after Blackjack Pershing dealt with it...

Today, he'd be tried and hung for using those tactics.....even though they worked very effectively.

The point I'm trying to make is that Obama isn't still dealing with Bushes problems...because many of today's problems ARE his problems.

Remember, he wanted the job an campaigned on the promise of knowing how to fix them. If they're not fixed, its his fault.

You are aware that Blackjack Pershing had nothing to do with the Middle East?

Maybe you should read what he did to Muslims after WWI